High-End AR15 + Arsenal AK vs. SCAR 17s

[JustinJ]

The little short-barreled Springfield Armory 7.62x51 is far more useful to most civilians. Although on light side for elk, moose or large bear it is very viable hunting rifle for just about anything in North America where law allows semi-auto hunting rifles (not legal in PA for hunting for example). It's built around very reliable Garand/M14 action so with 20 round magazines it makes fearsome defensive weapon as well. The new ones with plastic stocks are not overly heavy for .308 and handle quite well.

Yeah, it's a fearsome defensive weapon. I'd be fearful to shoot one indoors. Justifiable self defense shootings at extended ranges just don't happen. There are far more practical weapons for home defense. I agree, the .308 is definitely a more versatile hunting round but there are countless shooters who don't hunt so insulting the intelligence of those who select AR's or AK's over it is absurd.

 

[Trent]

I own a SCAR17S, and love it. A lot.

It doesn't get dirty. It doesn't malfunction. It is very accurate. Very light. Very easy to take down. Very VERY easy to clean (it doesn't get dirty...).

Magazines will cost you an arm and a leg, if you can find them. Or you could try to fabricate your own off FAL mags. Somewhat tricky to get the square hole cut in the exact right spot, but not impossible.

I do NOT advise it for lefty shooters, the stock pinches your cheek when you shoot.

It also sucks to shoot if you have a beard. Your beard hair will get pulled, painfully, by the stock. Hair gets in to the cracks that are there for adjustment /folding, which then under recoil....yeah. Ouch. Painful.

It's also not a friendly rifle to shoot NEXT to. It's OK if you are behind it. But pity the shooters to your side and give them a wide berth. The "highly effective" muzzle break will pummel them. And they will not like you.

 

[Trent]

Oh, and this thread needs pics.

SCAR is positioned center back.


300 yard iron sight shooting; rifle is cooling off, tried to get a pic of mirage. (Didn't work).

SCAR is adorned with my cancer awareness ribbon. (My aunt died of cancer last year, so I try to remind people...)


SCAR cooling off with boxes of Malaysian surplus scattered around.

 

[arizona_cards_11]

Thanks again to all who have given me feedback/advice!

I've since come up with two decent (I think) gameplans. I don't shoot competitively, nor do I have the land/time, at the moment, to do anything more than shoot recreationally. I've decided that my 16" 300blk AR is really a rifle without a purpose for me and will be the one I 'part out'/sell. I can't suppress it (live in IL), & can't turn it into an SBR (again, live in IL).

Scenarios:
1) Sell AR & reloading supplies. If I have enough money from the sale to buy an LRB M14/M25 Tanker with the money, I'll keep the AK.
Result: LRB M14/25 Tanker + AK
2) Sell AR & reloading supplies. I don't have enough money for the LRB M14/M25. Sell the AK + reloading supplies. Buy SCAR 17.
Result: SCAR 17

Scenario #1 is preferable, as I'd get to keep the AK and finally break into the M14 platform.

 

[Trent]

I can't suppress it (live in IL), & can't turn it into an SBR (again, live in IL).

Incorrect; we have SBR's now. Need to have a C&R to be eligible. But then you can apply for a tax stamp, wait, and chop it off.

Suppressors.. not so much. :banghead:

 

[arizona_cards_11]

Incorrect; we have SBR's now. Need to have a C&R to be eligible. But then you can apply for a tax stamp, wait, and chop it off.

Suppressors.. not so much. :banghead:

Ahhh...forgot about the C&R 'loophole.' Hopefully I'll find a new job sometime in the next few months, so I can get all of the toys without all of the hassles.

 

[Trent]

Ahhh...forgot about the C&R 'loophole.' Hopefully I'll find a new job sometime in the next few months, so I can get all of the toys without all of the hassles.

Yup, personally I can't wait until I retire, so I can get a can for my 300 AAC Blackout. I built one but haven't even shot it yet.



(need to buy some sights still.)