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I'm using a 300 Blackout (unfortunately not suppressed) for hogs.
Hog Hunting in South Florida
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Flintknapper
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Spider,
The 45/70 is an excellent choice IMO. I think you will be pleased with its performance on hogs.
Good luck to you,
Flint.
The 45/70 is an excellent choice IMO. I think you will be pleased with its performance on hogs.
Good luck to you,
Flint.
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Fine choice for heavy brush hunting. I personally would have opted for a .30/30 lever gun simply for less recoil allowing for faster followups. Of course most factory loaded .45/70, such as the leverloution ammo from hornady, is a bit on the milder side of the cartridges capabilities so they aren't TOO bad about thumping your shoulder. Just place your shots properly. If you deer hunt, try to keep it in your head that the hogs vitals are further forward than that of a deer. If you hit a hog in the same place you picture the vitals of a deer you will more than likely hit liver or just plain gut. This is of course picturing it on a dead broadside shot. Quartering away, aim for the crease pretty much the same as you would a deer. If the only shot you have is a neck shot, those will fool you too, the spine is pretty close to dead center of the neck. Just a tad more centered than that of a deer. Of course, with the cartridge and ammo you have chosen, close may count 
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Other than that, good luck in finding some spots and good luck connecting with a LOT of hogs!
. Other than that, good luck in finding some spots and good luck connecting with a LOT of hogs!
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With the possible exception of cowboy action loads (and for them I am not even sure), I don't think you can go too wrong with any .45-70 ammo for hogs. I think you will find the Leverevolution ammo to be a fine performer.
I am probably biased as the first hog I killed was with a Marlin 1895 in .45-70 and Leverevolution ammo. However, I have not been disappointed yet with their combined performance. I took these two last week, a half hour apart, and had to move them only slightly for the image as the second one came in to inspect the first one.
Chrono'd from my Marlin with a 22" barrel, I get right around 1900 fps from the ammo which gives a fairly flat trajectory for the first 110-120 yards and at 200 yards, the adjustment from a 100 yard zero with the 4x scope is only about 3 moa, though my longest hog shot has been only 140 yards. These two were taken at 25-30 yards.
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DNS, Are you getting pass through on shoulder shots with that leverevolution .45/70 ammo? I've shot several deer with it in .444 and a couple of hogs with the .30/30. Didn't pass through either hog but the deer presented no problems at passing through at all. Just wondering about the performance of it in .45/70 on hogs. Like in archery, I prefer 2 holes for the occasional shots that aren't drop right there. Makes for easier tracking if needed. Which in most cases isn't.
98Redline
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For a heavy loaded 45/70 round, shoot them just a hair low in the shoulder. That 400+ grain slug will break the shoulder and get the vitals to boot. It also does a good job of anchoring them right where they are hit.
HarcyPervin
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I absolutely love that you put the angry bird on the hogs. Well played, sir.
DNS nice rig. Is that a N550. How do you like it?
I'm leaning toward shooting from a blind and waiting for a neck shot, but I appreciate everyone's info on a hog's vitals. Are they also lower? I plan to eat my kill, so I want to be careful about contamination.
I'm leaning toward shooting from a blind and waiting for a neck shot, but I appreciate everyone's info on a hog's vitals. Are they also lower? I plan to eat my kill, so I want to be careful about contamination.
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98r, DNS, FF, Thanks for your input. I feel much more comfortable about where to target a hog now. Also good to know that you've had good results with the leverevolution ammo. One reason I bought some was to get some quality brass to reload. Has anyone got experience using a Lee Loader in this caliber?
Flintknapper, thanks for the affirmation for my caliber choice. Your thread has provided much good info to me.
The weather here has been too iffy for the range so I've been cleaning the rossi and getting used to the lever action.
98r, DNS, FF, Thanks for your input. I feel much more comfortable about where to target a hog now. Also good to know that you've had good results with the leverevolution ammo. One reason I bought some was to get some quality brass to reload. Has anyone got experience using a Lee Loader in this caliber?
Flintknapper, thanks for the affirmation for my caliber choice. Your thread has provided much good info to me.
The weather here has been too iffy for the range so I've been cleaning the rossi and getting used to the lever action.
45/70 Zero
While waiting around for good weather and a day off to be the same day I decided to pick up some optics. Given this round is known to drop like a rock and that my max range shot would probably by 200 yards, where would it be best to set my zero?
While waiting around for good weather and a day off to be the same day I decided to pick up some optics. Given this round is known to drop like a rock and that my max range shot would probably by 200 yards, where would it be best to set my zero?
dprice3844444
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100 yards should be fine.check out the toby bridges scope from hi-luxoptics.com leatherwood.it's bdc for bp and 45/70 similar tradjectory
Flintknapper
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Spider,
I would sight it in dead on at 100 yds. (1-1/2" high if you expect a shot a bit over 100 yds.)
Unless you are on a stand...it is unlikely you will encounter a 200 yd. shot (where you couldn't move in closer). The exception being hogs that are traveling and don't allow you much time.
Most shots will be 75-100 yds in the setting you describe. Just be sure to note where your rifle (with a particular load) shoots at ranges of 50 yds. 100 yds. and 125 yds.
That is going to cover nearly all of your shooting opportunities.
I would sight it in dead on at 100 yds. (1-1/2" high if you expect a shot a bit over 100 yds.)
Unless you are on a stand...it is unlikely you will encounter a 200 yd. shot (where you couldn't move in closer). The exception being hogs that are traveling and don't allow you much time.
Most shots will be 75-100 yds in the setting you describe. Just be sure to note where your rifle (with a particular load) shoots at ranges of 50 yds. 100 yds. and 125 yds.
That is going to cover nearly all of your shooting opportunities.
That's an interesting scope, but I already ordered a Leupold 1.5-5. I might try them for the next scope I neef
Thanks, Flint. 100 yards it is. I just wanted to be sure the cartridge fired flat enough that I wouldn't have to worry about hold under. Given the heavy brush around here and the fact that I plan to start out in a blind I believe my most likely shot will be 30-60 yards. Since the outfitters guarantee a hog they take you out with dogs if one doesn't come in to the bait site. That's where longer ranges may come in.
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Nope. Thats where your knife will come in. When they take you out with dogs, the dogs will bay the hog up (that means corner it) and then they will release a catch dog or 2. It's highly doubtful they would even allow you to fire at a hog that the dogs are trailing on. Those dogs are far from cheap and they wouldn't want one hit. Your longest range will be dependent upon where they set you up when you are in the blind.
Thanks for this. You've got a point. Let me clarify. Some dogs are trained to grab the hog by the snout. That's the situation you are talking about. However, some are trained to flush the hog into the open. The outfitters will put you in a pickup and drive along open fields. One guy around here got one at 140 yds while standing on the roof of the cab.
Also, thanks for cluing me in that it could become a knife hunt. I'll bring my Fallkniven Thor.
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What outfitter are you hunting with ? We hunted with Little Lake Lodge the past 2 years ! Only saw 2 hogs shot past 50 yards ! One from a stand the other off the top of a buggy after it stopped ! Try this link for calculating bullet drop and zero point . http://www.biggameinfo.com/BalCalc.aspx good luck and give us a hunt report ! Kevin
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Spider, your bay dogs always "flush" the hog. That's their job. They get on a hot trail, jump the hog, chase it till it is either cornered or just tired of flight so they turn to kick the hell out of the dogs (and believe me, they turn for THAT reason more than being cornered) and then their "bark" changes from a "trailing bark" to a "bayed bark". I've never seen an outfitter that allows you to shoot at a running hog over their dogs. That's a risk I know I wouldn't take with an animal I have invested a ton of time and money into.
FF, neither would I. Believe me, I will heed whatever my outfitter says about when to shoot and when not to. I figure he'll know a lot more about what's going on than I will. Part of what I'll be paying him for. That said, I have been watching youtubes of actual hunts with these outfitters and have seen a hog flushed into a clearing, +/- 100 yds, no dogs in sight. He got taken. Still, it wouldn't hurt to ask if it's ok to take the shot if he hasn't already said so.
Hi Kevin. Up til now been getting my ducks in a row. Got my rifle, ammo and my sight shipped today. Will be taking it to the range next to sight in. Haven 't picked an outfitter yet, but that will be next. Little Lake and Chappy are on my list. I'll decide after I've talked to them and have figured out when me and my buddy are free. Thanks for the link.
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