Hollywood's Gun Fights

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Don't get me started!

In "Patriot", Mel Gibson's character makes a 50-yard headshot on a fleeing Redcoat, galloping away on a bouncing, weaving horse...

WITH A SMOOTHBORE FLINTLOCK PISTOL!!!!

I almost walked out of the theater. Do NOT insult my intelligence@!:cuss:
 
I saw some movie with Chris Rock and Morgan Freeman a bit ago. Morgan had a silenced Colt 45. At one point the slide was back, he was out of ammo it appeared. But then he turns around the corner, fires and the slide comes to full battery. :rolleyes:
 
Movie: Matrix
Scene: Lobby shoot-out
Character: Neo

After dropping a pair of Berettas because the mags are empty:barf: , he pulls out what appear to be a couple of H&K MP5K's, sans foregrip, and what looks to be like a supressor. When he begins firing, they get a shot of the casings hitting the ground--and they're MUCH larger, like a .308 or somesuch....
 
Yup, many, MANY goofs, but just to balance things a LITTLE - -

Back in the 1960s, there was a weekly series called "I Spy," with Robert Culp and Bill Cosby as a pair of CIA operatives. (Yes, ol' Pudding Bill.) Nicely produced, with some good writing, decent acting, and excellent location fliming. First major series with a black actor in a truly equal capacity, too.

Culp carried a cut-down P38-- a little surprising because Culp the man was pretty gun-savvy. I tend to think this was just a tougue-in-cheek jibe at a slightly earlier series, "The Man from U.N.C.L.E.," in which the hee-row used a P38 snubnose with about eleven different accessories, including shoulder stock, extension barrel, long magazine, scope sight and supressor.

One thing that always impressed me: Cosby carried a Colt Commander, probably in 9mm, with the hammer down--we saw him thumb cock it in various episodes. When the shooting was over, and, amazingly, they sometimes resolved difficulties without any shooting, Cosby would always turn well away from anyone else and use both hands to VERY carefully lower the Colt's hammer.

Culp was a supporting actor in a later series, "The Greatest American Hero," playing an FBI agent. He demonstrated some very good gun handling in the midst of this comedy series. One involved him holding an AR on some bad guys. An ignorant non-combatant walked in front of Culp, who deflected his muzzle and then, when clear, went immediately back on target.

Hey--Just a couple of bright spots in the middle of the Hollywood madness. :D

Best,
Johnny
 
Movie: Matrix
Scene: Lobby Shoot-out
Character: Neo

This scene made me laugh. He was using Czech Skorpion Vz. 61 machine pistols.

The Skorpion Vz. 61 is chambered in .32ACP (7.65 Browning). Cut to the floor and there are .223 shell casings bouncing off the floor.

I still can't wait for the sequel though. Next Wednesday baby!!! :D :D :D
 
Daredevil, Elektra is shooting at Daredevil with a Glock, and when it is empty, not only does the slide not lock back, but she keeps on pulling the trigger and it keeps on clicking like the striker was ready to fire.
 
Well, not really Hollywood, but I was watching something on MSNBC Investigates tonight entitled "Sudden Death."

It was about how Los Angeles County coroners went about their daily work, and this episode dealt mostly with gunshot victims. One female coroner was investigating a suicide in the Long Beach marina, and finding firearms at the scene, asked if an officer at the scene could "remove a clip from this nine."

Closeup showed ".45 Auto" on the chamber.

She later determines that the .45 was not the weapon that the man shot himself was, as she later pulls out a very bloody revolver. The narrator says its a ".45 Magnum."

She later goes to investigate the man's house and remarks, "this guy has an AK-47 somewhere - there's the clips for it."

Closeup shows what are plainly AR-15 magazines.

In all, it's a very interesting and informative show, and I was glad that the officers and coroners on the scene didn't try and tell the viewers about the "dangers of owning firearms" and whatnot.

Of course, at the beginning of the show the narrator plainly stated that LA County was home to ten million people and "a million guns." :scrutiny:
 
A scene that sticks out in my mind is from a movie, (I forget which), where the good guy is running up a flight of stairs while several bgs are firing fully automatic weapons at him. The wall is shot up, the stair post and hand rail is shot up, even the thin spindles are being shot, but not a single round hit our hero. If you slow the scene down, you can see that there is not a free 6 inch square that didnt get shot, except of course where the hero stood.

Another pet peave is when the cover that people hid behind is so flimsy, but the bullets dont pass through. Hiding behind a interior wall made of drywall seems to be all the protection that you will need against an AK47. Sheesh
 
The ones I love is were the they wing the bad guy and he goes down and then they run off...get real..stomp that guy till his fingers are broke and if he farts shoot im again. eww eww I shot him and he fell..I now need to run.
 
On his TV show, Chuck Norris would get disarmed, escape, kick a bad guy who was carrying a full auto AK and Chuck would never pick it up. He just went on to kick the next bad guy.

Steven Segal's lesson on how to put the safey on a Glock - not one with the modification.

Collateral - I like that one. I watched the scene where Cruise shot the two punky dudes from retention. I told my wife that I could do that. I said said that at a IDPA match there was a stage with retention and I was complimented on my smoothness of execution. Wife was unimpressed. You ain't no Tom Cruise. :( I did like when he went for his extra mag at the end and noticed he didn't have one. I had to explain that.

Anyway, I would have retained Nicole Kidman.
 
Stand by Me

There are so many ways I admire that movie, I can't count them, BUT - -- -

Right at the end, our young hero fires a warning shot from a 1911 to get everybody's attention, then faces the BG down with it. When BG sneers, "you can't get all of us with that", Hero-boy responds, "No, Ace, Just YOU!", and COCKS THE PIECE, Loudly.

What a hell of a way to finish a fine movie.
Leaves a sour taste in my mouth to this day.
 
I gotta get me some

of the handgun bullets that they blow up cars with. Remington and Winchester should take a lesson. Talk about one round stops.
Also need one of the Peacemakers that Kevin Costner used in "Range War" that he could fan off 10 shots with at one guy after shooting a couple of others with it first. Man, that would come in handy at my Cowboy Action Matches. "Yep, I got an empty chamber under the hammer". Of course, that was a bit of overkill on one BG when there were 7 or 8 more after him. ;)
 
Yohan
"In one of the scenes, the main character is shot at from a distance of about 35 yards- and she draws her snubby revolver and fires. In the typical H fasion, the bad person falls- the camera focusing in on the dead body to reveal that the heroine (I hope I spelled female hero, not the drug) had placed a well placed shot smack dab in the middle of the head. Is this a possibility? ? "
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Is it possible?
Yes.

Is it likeky?
No.

This is what my 40+ year old 2 inch barrel S&W Model 10 will do.
Could I shoot this group under pressure?
Not likely. :D

But personally I would rather be at a distance of 30 to 50 yards in a gun fight with a pistol. ;)

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BTW as a helicopter pilot, I can't stand to watch the stupid way Hollywood thinks choppers should be flown. :fire:
 
The folks who provide firearms for movies and TV shows are very professional and knowledgable, but they don't determine what happens, any more than the legal advisors get to determine what happens on lawyer and cop shows. Cocking hammers, racking slides and shotguns, those things make noise and are entertaining, so they go in the movies. It's no different than anything else. Does Hollywood show relationships the way you experience them? As both a lawyer and a teacher I can say Hollywood has absolutely no idea about either occupation.

I saw one last night. My wife likes "Law & Order: SVU." This guy decides to take revenge outside a courtroom, so he grabs the court officer's gun and shoots someone. Later the detectives were struggling for ways to figure out if he had planned it or acted in the heat of the moment. Well, first of all, they had the law all messed up on several points on the show. But it immediately occurred to me that if the court officer had a decent retention holster the guy would have had to plan and practice to get the gun away from him - good evidence of premeditation. But maybe court officers in NYC walk around with their guns unsecured, though I doubt it.
 
Mentioning the jet with contrails in the Audie Murphy film reminded me that in the John Wayne film version of The Alamo, in one of the battle scenes there can plainly be seen, in the far background, a yellow schoolbus making its daily rounds.

If I may be permitted to hijack this thread from films to books, how many times dod Louis Lamour have one of his cowboy heros make a one-shot hit, usually after being badly beat up, chased around the country, and not having eaten or drunk anything for three days -- from 300 or 400 yards, with a Winchester .44-40 carbine using iron sights?
 
Johnny Guest,
Mentioned some positives ( yeah I remember Culp and Cosby) . Tom Selleck is another. TTBOK Mannix and Cannon did as well.

Of course "I" never tried anything I saw on teevee ...*ahem*

I HAD to have a Lever Action cap gun for my B-Day one year...I went to the zoo with it ...I dunno ...Chuck Conners cocked his "that way" ...I just mangaged to get a sore hand and scare the daylights out of the Gorilla...

"Honey, what did you do to that Gorilla ...why are you rubbing your hand?"

Moms sure can be nosy - it was MY B-Day afterall...."nothing mom - honest" :D
 
Generally a bad movie, but I did like it it "Last Action Hero" where the character played by Arnie has been magically transported to the real world, fires a few shots at the bad guy's car, and is astonished when it doesn't immediately blow up.

(For those that don't know the plot: A boy who likes Schwartznegger films gets a magic film ticket that transports him into the latest film. Buy the bad guys somehow escape from the film into the real world, and the fictional character played by Arnie has to go after him to stop him - at one point meeting the "real" Arnie at a film premier!)

I saw a film recently on TV: "fled".

At first it seemed quite good in gun-handling terms. Once character found a handgun, and picked it up, finger on the trigger, and started waving it around - wherapon his buddy immediately shouted at him for doing so and took it off him.

But then later it degenerated into gun-in-each-hand, crossed-arm jumping-through-the-air shhotouts. (And the moment you say the cable-car, you knew there was going to be a fight on it, and that someone would get thrown out).
 
GEM, I was thinking about Collateral too. I just watched it this weekend and thought the alley scene with two punks was pretty realistic. Not hollywood fast, just smooth. But as some will say, "smooth is fast and fast is smooth."

Of course, the nightclub shootout was crap.
 
My personal "favorite" is in The Chase when Christy Swanson blows up a helicopter with one shot from a Beretta 92. I kept getting sushed in the theatre, I was laughing so hard.
 
SoDFW Jason -
Anyone ever seen an FTE in a movie?

Yup! Way of the Gun has a scene where Ryan Phillipe is shooting a pump shotgun and has an FTE. You can see him properly clear it, too. The movie also shows proper room-clearing, one-handed 1911 reloads, and overall good gun-handling to boot. In one scene, a scoped rifle is being used, and you see the target through the scope reticle. When the shooter fires, the view in the scope actually jerks off the target from recoil. The only gun-related thing that bothered me in it was when Benicio del Toro is shooting a full-auto Galil, and makes a perfectly straight horizontal line of holes in a wall.
 
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