Home Depot ALLOWS concealed carry -- please stop urban legend

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Home Depot to start posting

According to gunfreezones.com, all Minnesota Home Depot stores will now be posted banning legal CCW carry, at least in Minnesota. Here's the link:

http://gunfreezones.com/buss_database.php?op=detail&id=539

As of last Friday, all stores were being mailed the signs. Apparently though, they are getting some push back from our side and may now reconsider.

Go to the Home Depot website and contact them about this policy:

http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDU...A&CNTKEY=Customer Support/Contact Us&MID=9876

Or Home Depot Customer Care 1-800-553-3199

Let 'em have it! Let's make this our next Applebees!
 
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Suggesting HD try this: NO CCW sign vs NO signs.

Now if HD were to say give a discount to gun clubs, ranges, a "how to make a target stand " demonstration for personal use...Basically show support for firearms and CCWs. Heck clubs and ranges would "promote" them for business.

NO CCW store would have more incidents and sales drop.
Pro Firearm location would have an increase in sales, and I bethcha no incidents.

I'm biased of course on my opinion...correspondence sent...
 
I've heard complaints from a number of people who say they won't go to Home Despot because the company has cut back their staffing to the point a shopper can't get any help.

This 'No CCW' policy can't possibly help sales.

Pilgrim
 
Send a polite letter that you carry all of the time and there is nothing in their store worth disarming yourself over. Therefore, you will do your shopping else where, where you and your firearm are welcome.

You may also want to remind them of an event that happened a few years ago at a Pizza Hut or TGIF (I forget which -- do a search on this board for all of the details on that) where a fmaily was robbed in the parking lot and they sued because the place didn't allow CCW and at the same time they failed to provide for proper security to prevent the mugging from taking place. It was well documented that they settled the case out of court for a SIGNIFICANT amount of money.
 
Does anyone know Lowes policy? If they don't post the no-CCW signs that would be more leverage. "I'm afraid I'll be shopping at your competitor's since they don't limit my legal rights."
 
Message sent. Thanks for the URL!

An excerpt:
I like the Home Depot, and have spent thousands of dollars there in the last seven years that I have owned a home. I feel that your employees are more friendly and knowledgable than your competition.

However, until the sign comes down, I will reluctantly give my business to Menards.
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I also called the 800 number. (1 for English, then 5 for other!) The operator typed my comments, took my name and number, and told me they would be forwarded to upper management.

I would highly suggest everyone take a minute to do this as well as sending an electronic message. Emails are easier to ignore than phone calls. Once their operators begin to have the sense that there is a groundswell of opposition, things will start to happen.
 
Update: Called Eden Prairire, MN store. Manager on duty, Jeff, said that as of last May, corporate was not allowing stores to post. He further said he had not heard of a change. He promised to keep me informed.

Good news so far, I guess. Call your local store (ask to talk to an MOD (manager on duty) and reiterate your disapproval!
 
IIRC we've been through this discussion about a year ago.

End result was they stopped posting.

Lowes a while back had a home safety site which was filled with VPC bilge. Several emails from THR // TFL and the site was changed.

Keep up the heat.
 
Called the 800 number again -- looking for confirmation or denial of the policy. This operator said, "I have no idea here. Why would you want to take a gun into the store?"

Sheesh. And "Baaaaah."

Two local store manager I spoke to (Jeff at Eden Prairie and Chris at Plymouth) hadn't heard, but said they would prefer that Corporate did not impose such a restriction. Hope Corporate listens to their managers.
 
TOO BAD SO SAD

I guess my remodeling dollars will be going to Menards as well. I think I will wait to pass on HD till I verify the sings myself.
 
HD

I just did a little calling around and found out that that signs are up, but the comment I got was they have been up for sometime. I am not sure what the deal is?? I go to HD on a regular basis I would think that is somethign I would notice. As anyone noticed these signs before?
 
I told them what I think

No anti-carry signs in my local store, but I told them I would not shop there anymore if they choose to prohibit my right to carry.
 
HD is tight-lipped

I called the 800 number and the lady wasn't sure of the policy but took the complaint to be forwarded to mgmt. I was then connected to my local store and the mgr. said "I think so ... I'm not sure". He took my comments politely and I told him that I'll be saving "big money at Menards from now on...
Garry
 
Well, I emailed and called, but got nothing to tell yet. They took my comments and that's it. So we wait.

Thanks so far to everyone who called. You know, I posted this same message on the Glock board and all everyone wants to do is argue with me about "private property" and such. Geeze, in the time people took to argue about it they could have emailed and called Home Depot!

This operator said, "I have no idea here. Why would you want to take a gun into the store?"
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I usually tell people, "well I don't carry normally, however I still don't do business with people who discriminate against law abiding people who spent the time and money to get a permit."
 
For the most part, CCW holders are honest law abiding citizens.
If you are carrying concealed and enter their store, they should not know it.
Remember, "Concealed Carry"
If they do notice your firearm, what is the penalty??
Do they throw you out?
Call the local PD and try to charge you with something?
If they make a BIG thing out of it, I would think you might have grounds for a BIG lawsuit.:evil:
Any comments from lawyer types on these points?
 
I just dont understand why these foolish retailers are posting the signs.
They have nothing to gain by doing so.
No one is going to START shopping at a particular store BECAUSE of the signs.

All the signs serve to do is run off those who obey the law... I dont get it?
What do they stand to gain by messing with us?
 
They gain PR by being PC

They are'nt messing with us. They are trying to be PC and that is HIP right now. The gun is associated with the crime because the criminal probably was abused or falsely accused or one of the oppressed... The criminals are not the problem (according to PC thinking). We don't need prisons, we need to ban weapons (guns, knives, baseball bats, two story buildings with windows and fists).
Off with your hands! You might kill somebody.

Part of the 'vast right-wing conspiracy' that Hillary lamented,
Garry
 
You may also want to remind them of an event that happened a few years ago at a Pizza Hut or TGIF (I forget which -- do a search on this board for all of the details on that) where a fmaily was robbed in the parking lot and they sued because the place didn't allow CCW and at the same time they failed to provide for proper security to prevent the mugging from taking place. It was well documented that they settled the case out of court for a SIGNIFICANT amount of money.
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Anyone have a URL for this incident?
 
Wrote the following by e-mail on their webpage:

Before you start posting signs at your stores, as you are in MN, against lawful concealed carry of firearms; you might want to contact Citibank, Lowe's, K-Mart, and Peak Antifreeze to see what happened when they took political stances against the pro-firearms community. There are EIGHTY MILLION firearms owners in America; and they all have extended family members whom they will tell not to shop at your stores. Carefully consider your actions when taking a political stance. The effects can be substantial.

Sincerely,

Jim Peel
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On Lowe's

Courtesy of Family, Friends, and Firearms at: http://www.familyfriendsfirearms.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6180

I will send a copy of this to Home Depot as well.

Dear Valued Lowe's Customer,

Thank you for your recent email regarding Lowe's Home Improvement Warehouse The following addresses concerns expressed by yourself and the NRA about certain firearm safety-related content on Lowe's web site and the web site of our non-profit home safety organization, Lowe's Home Safety Council.

Lowe's is a home improvement retailer, and it is certainly not our intent to take a public policy position on the overall issue of Second Amendment rights in the U.S. The information in question was provided to Lowe's by a third party, the Consumer Federation of America, who had obtained it from Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy. We understand that certain elements of that information may be viewed as being subjective; therefore, it has been removed from our web site. Frankly, a more careful reading of that information by our staff, before it was posted, may have eliminated this issue before it occurred.

As the world's second largest home improvement retailer, Lowe's sells many of the products used to make America's homes a safer place to live. For that reason, we're very proud of our efforts to promote home safety awareness among our customers and the public at large. However, as it relates to firearms, Lowe's position is to simply encourage the safe storage of firearms in and around the home - period.

Thanks again for making us aware of your thoughts on this issue. We certainly regret any confusion the information on our web site may have caused.

If you would like to discuss this issue further with a staff member of the NRA, Bill Parkerson- Director of Research and Information can be reached at (703)267-1187.

Sincerely,

Lowe's Customer Care
Lowe's Home Improvement
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I went to the Plymouth/Minnetonka store (it's kind of on the border) about 10 days ago, and didn't see a sign. I'll undoubtedly be back in another week or two, and if there's a sign I'll talk to a manager and send an email to corporate. This actually surprises me; I would think there's a big overlap between gun owners and, shall we say, home enthusiasts.
 
Posted by F4GIB: ... Anyone have a URL for this incident? ...
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This is what I was making reference to ...
Posted by Bartholomew Roberts: ... Recently, Taco Bell was assessed eight million dollars in damages for a violent assault that took place on its property for failing to protect the persons at the Taco Bell. The law is fairly clear on this subject in Texas. "Generally, an ordinary business owner or operator, as opposed to a proprietor of a restaurant, inn, or similar establishment, is under a duty to exercise reasonable care for the safety of his or her invitees. Garner v. McGinty, 771 S.W.2d 242, 246(Tex. Civ. App.--Austin 1989, no writ). "A business invitor owes a duty to his business invitees to take reasonable steps to protect them from intentional injuries caused by third parties if he knows or has reason to know, from what he has observed or from past experience, that criminal acts are likely to occur, either generally or at some particular time." Id. at 246: Castillo v. Sears, Roebuck & Co.,663 S.W.2d 60,66 (Tex.Civ.App.--San Antonio 1983, writ ref'd n.r.e.)("there is no duty upon the owner of operators of a shopping center...or upon merchants and shopkeepers generally, whose mode of operation of their premises does not attract or provide a climate for crime, to guard against criminal acts of a third party, unless they know...that acts are occurring or are about to occur on the premises that pose imminent probability of harm to an invitee: whereupon a duty of reasonable care to protect against such act arises.") Thus, a plaintiff in a case against an ordinary business owner or operator will have to demonstrate that the business owner or operator knew or had reason to know that criminal acts were likely to occur in order to establish that the business owner or operator had a duty to take reasonable steps to protect invitees from injuries caused by third parties. By contrast, the duty of a proprietor of a restaurant, inn, or similar establishment generally includes the duty to exercise reasonable care to protect patrons from assaults of third persons while on the premises. Eastep v. Jack-in-the-Box, Inc., 546 S.W.2d 116(Tex.Civ.App.--Houston{14th Dist.} 1977, writ ref'd n.r.e.) ... [
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