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2 questions for all bow owners out there....

1) How does one go about making a homemade self-bow? Any commercial bow making kits out there? What kind of poundage can i expect from a self-made bow?

2)Do you guys have any idea how to fabricate your own broadheads and bodkins? what equipment or raw materials do you need? The broadheads/bodkins i have in mind don't have to be that durable or approach commercial products in quality, they just have to be good enough for 2-3 hits and not affect the arrow accuracy too much.
 
One of the best woods is osage orange which the french called bois d'arc ( bow wood ).
 
I met a new fella at our archery club meeting. (recently moved into the area) tells me he makes his own bows, I shrug. Next meeting he shows me a handfull of perfect flint broadheads. Made em hisself, says he. Wow, I say. Then he comes up with the most beautiful longbows...
Since I own 1/2 mile of osage orange hedge, we now have a deal. He gets a load of hedge for staves, I get a couple lessons and a new bow!
I'll be following this thread (and those links). Thanks
 
Baba Louie, gotta agree with you. It's a whole new hobby. Not that that's a bad thing.
kannonfyre, there are all kinds of web sites and books out there about making your own bows and arrow heads. Most of the "survival" books have a section. Making your own bow requires a great deal of patience. It's not terribly difficult, but it's not something that power tools lend themselves to either. Flint or other stone heads are a whole subject to themselves. Do a search for it and you'll be busy for weeks.
 
Have a look at the "Bowyer's Bible" series of books (four total I think) - really indispensable. Online all I've seen is the Primitive Archer forums, which aren't bad. I've been making wooden bows for about 8 years and have enjoyed every minute of it. I haven't made any broadheads for myself yet as I'm so fond of my Zwickeys, but someday maybe. Flintknapping is definitely on the back burner until my kids are a little older and I have some spare time.

1)With the right designs and materials you can make a self-bow as heavy as you'd ever want to pull - there are guys making reproductions of English longbows in yew that pull 150# or so. You could go even heavier if you want to get into horn/wood/sinew composites. I make hunting bows for myself in the 50-65# range and can't imagine ever needing anything heavier.

2)You'd need some decent carbon steel, like a bit of a front coil spring from a junk car, or you can buy commercial carbon steel like 1095 or other relatively cheap type. You'd need to have grinding equipment (belt and/or wheel grinder) and/or a forging furnace and an anvil and hammers/other forge tools to forge with. You'd need quenching oil for heat treating. You'd want learn a little about working steel if you didn't already know some, the books I refer to above have a little info and I'd suggest a book like Wayne Goddard's "Fifty Dollar Knife Shop" as well. For designs just look at existing broadheads - they're either going to be a tang type that's all one piece (not so good for durability as they tend to split your shafts) or they'd have a socket for the shaft that's welded/brazed or pinned together. It would be just as much work to make poor quality broadheads so why not make good ones? Good luck!
 
This is all very interesting. I've never considered making my own bow (I don't even own one).

Is a homemade bow just as safe as a commercial bow? (won't snap when drawn)

How much would it cost to make one?

Thanks,
Steve
 
http://www.ubofpa.org/selfbow.htm
How much would it cost to make one?
If you've got THE TIME, a good straight stave or three, a rasp or two, LOTSA TIME, maybe a draw blade or a good pocketknife or two, some TIME, a good eye and the patience of a saint... it oughta cost ya about $75 for a good stave.

http://www.bowsite.com/acb/showprod.cfm?st=0&st2=0&st3=0&ObjectGroup_ID=27&CATID=9&DID=6

Plenty of reference help online. Traditional Bowyers Bible (note publisher) and maybe a friend with a farm that's got good tall hedgeapple trees... you're biggest expense will be the books.

http://www.outdoors.lcparks.com/oself.html

Tillering... a science and art unto itself.

But ya know, it doesn't stop there. Bowstrings... hmmmm. How DID the native american indians get all that deer sinew into a usable tensile cord?
Arrow shafts, points, fletching, quivers... good god man you'll just go insane, I swear its true. Native American styles, european, arab, eastern asian...

Don't say I didn't warn you. :D

http://www.rmsg.us/fire/archery.htm

What's it COST? How do you measure time spent away from your family while you're out in the garage working on a frickin straight piece of wood like it's the holy grail and the kids know that Dad's gone mad and the spousal unit can't believe it when you come in and say "It's getting there honey, just a little more time" with an insane gleam in your eyes???
 
This is all very interesting. I've never considered making my own bow (I don't even own one).

Is a homemade bow just as safe as a commercial bow? (won't snap when drawn)

How much would it cost to make one?

Thanks,
Steve
Wooden self-bows have to be used at no more than the draw length they were tillered for - go further and breakage is likely, and even if it's not broken the strain will put extreme "set" or permanant deflection into the limbs for sure.

On top of that, some woods get brittle when cold, most get rubbery/easy to permanantly bend when hot. Also, high humidity or extremely dry conditions will affect even well-finished bows to some extent over time - drying out makes the bow pull heavier, sometimes to the point where your normal draw length will be dangerous for the bow's health, while wet will rob you of draw weight.

Well-made bows are far less likely to break for any reason than badly made ones. The first 8 or 10 I made were bad to various degrees (but I liked them anyway).

Fiberglass or other modern materials are definitely more durable in terms of sheer resistance to breakage, and if I could make fiberglass bows as light in the hand, as sweet shooting, and as cheaply I'd make a bunch of those too - and I still might anyway.

I've broken a number of bows while tillering and one of my first ones in actual use, and had a couple well-made gift-bows (given to kids who worked them a little hard) break in use. When they cost a few dollars in materials to make it's not really too big a deal. If you glue a thin piece of rawhide (or glued-up sinew or fiber, or even heavy paper) on the back you can avoid catastrophic breakage pretty much entirely (this is a must for kids' first bows).

Materials can be cheap or free if you cut your own trees or use cheap lumber like Hickory or Hard Maple (although if your time is worth money the time spent searching lumber stacks for the straightest grain might be considered expensive), downright expensive if you buy commercially available staves of Osage Orange or Yew (like $60-100 per bowstave). Tools aren't expensive - maybe a sharp hatchet, a few scrapers, a drawknife, a little block or coffin plane, one fine and one coarse rasp, a few assorted files, an outside caliper, a pocketkife or two - stuff lots of people have anyway. A bandsaw comes in real handy if you have a decent one, but I don't normally use any other power tool. You can make a tillering board out of hardwood scrap, and buy a cheap pull-scale (or borrow the bathroom scale) for checking draw weight.
 
Okay, you've convinced me that I don't want to make one myself.

I would like some advice, though... on second thought, I don't want to hijack this fellow's thread, so I'll ask in a new thread...

Thanks for the info,
Steve
 
At the National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association National Match in June there should be a one day class on bow & bowmaking. I took it a couple of years ago.
 
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