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NeoCon Global Government


June 13, 2005

This week Congress will vote on a bill to expand the power of the United Nations beyond the dreams of even the most ardent left-wing, one-world globalists. But this time the UN power grabbers aren’t European liberals; they are American neo-conservatives, who plan to use the UN to implement their own brand of world government.

The “United Nations Reform Act of 2005” masquerades as a bill that will cut US dues to the United Nations by 50% if that organization does not complete a list of 39 reforms. On the surface any measure that threatens to cut funding to the United Nations seems very attractive, but do not be fooled: in this case reform “success” will be worse than failure. The problem is in the supposed reforms themselves-- specifically in the policy changes this bill mandates.

The proposed legislation opens the door for the United Nations to routinely become involved in matters that have never been part of its charter. Specifically, the legislation redefines terrorism very broadly for the UN’s official purposes-- and charges it to take action on behalf of both governments and international organizations.

What does this mean? The official adoption of this definition by the United Nations would have the effect of making resistance to any government or any international organization an international crime. It would make any attempt to overthrow a government an international causus belli for UN military action. Until this point a sovereign government retained the legal right to defend against or defeat any rebellion within its own territory. Now any such activity would constitute justification for United Nations action inside that country. This could be whenever any splinter group decides to resist any regime-- regardless of the nature of that regime.

What if this were in place when the Contras were fighting against the Marxist regime in Nicaragua? Or when the Afghan mujahadeen was fighting against the Soviet-installed government in the 1980s? Or during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising? The new message is clear: resistance-- even resistance to the UN itself-- is futile. Why does every incumbent government, no matter how bad, deserve UN military assistance to quell domestic unrest?

This new policy is given teeth by creating a “Peacebuilding Commission,” which will serve as the implementing force for the internationalization of what were formerly internal affairs of sovereign nations. This Commission will bring together UN Security Council members, major donors, major troop contributing countries, appropriate United Nations organizations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund among others. This new commission will create the beginning of a global UN army. It will claim the right to intervene in any conflict anywhere on the globe, bringing the World Bank and the IMF formally into the picture as well. It is a complete new world order, but undertaken with the enthusiastic support of many of those who consider themselves among the most strident UN critics.

Conservatives who have been critical of the UN in the past have enthusiastically embraced this bill and the concept of UN reform. But what is the desired end of “UN reform”? The UN is an organization that was designed to undermine sovereignty and representative government. It is unelected and unaccountable to citizens by its very design. Will UN reform change anything about the fact that its core mission is objectionable? Do honest UN critics really want an expanded UN that functions more “efficiently”?

The real question is whether we should redouble our efforts to save a failed system, or admit its failures-- as this legislation does-- and recognize that the only reasonable option is to cease participation without further costs to the United States in blood, money, and sovereignty. Do not be fooled: it is impossible to be against the United Nations and to support “reform” of the United Nations. The only true reform of the United Nations is for the US to withdraw immediately.
 
I'm sure our President, who is doing everything he can to protect us - will veto this bill. :banghead:
 
Dandy..........

But honestly, if they ever use this power, dont you think they wouldve helped put down a rebellion wether this bill existed or not?

As in, if america got to a point were there was a rebellion of the people, and the UN wante to crush it, wouldnt they do it with or without this bill?
 
Sounds like Ron Paul is drinking the same "Neocons are coming, neocons are coming" koolaid as others. I've got a major problem with reputedly respectable people wringing their hands over a political entity THAT NO ONE HAS DEFINED. You'd swear by the comments of the Ron Pauls and Paul Craig Roberts of the world a coup in the US is just days away. I can't really tell the difference between Paul and Roberts and Democrat Underground. The rhetoric is impressive but not defined. Both are breathless is pointing out a danger but yet fail to define the danger.

I'm tired of reading chicken little. If there is a danger to the republic, THEN DEFINE IT. Paul hasn't defined it; he's just yelled about it.

:mad:
 
Waitone, my interpretation of Paul's remarks is that he objects to the idea that any *existing* regime will get UN aid in remaining in power in the event of a revolution--if that revolution is termed "terrorism" by the government in power.

Thus the UN would come to the aid of a Saddam Hussein or a Mugabe if the locals got fed up and tried to toss out the Bad Guy.

Given the past decisions and actions and judgements of the UN establishment, I pretty much feel the same way about the UN as Paul.

I don't see any "coup" coming. What I see is a ceding of sovereignty in the same fashion as we've seen the slow but unending erosion of RKBA.

Art
 
I normally like Ron Paul, but having read the bill myself, I think he's _way_ over reacting.

That being said, I'd rather see us just get the hell out of the UN, and sell ringside tickets to watch it collapse under it's own sewage.
 
Ron Paul:
Do not be fooled: it is impossible to be against the United Nations and to support “reform” of the United Nations. The only true reform of the United Nations is for the US to withdraw immediately.

Yep, Ron Paul is a Great American.
 
Waitone wrote:
I've got a major problem with reputedly respectable people wringing their hands over a political entity [neocons] THAT NO ONE HAS DEFINED.

No one has defined? You might want to read William Kristol's book, Neo-conservatism : The Autobiography of an Idea.

Or read Reflections of a Neoconservative: Looking Back, Looking Ahead by Irving Kristol, father of William Kristol. These two are considered the founders of this political movement.

Check out the discussion offered by Wikipedia.

Ron Paul wrote:
What if this were in place when the Contras were fighting against the Marxist regime in Nicaragua?... Or during the Warsaw Ghetto uprising?

Lumping the CIA's Contras in with the heroes of the Warsaw uprising is absurd. The Contras were maurading bands of rapists, torturers and murderers who systematically targeted civilian non-combatants. See Contra Terror in Nicaragua: Report of a Fact-Finding Mission, September 1984-January 1985 by Reed Brody.
 
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