House Democrats Oppose National Park Carry

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It's the same old song.

http://www.theolympian.com/news/story/377098.html
Democrats say they'll fight for gun ban in parks

Les Blumenthal
McClatchy Newspapers

WASHINGTON — With a showdown looming, Rep. Norm Dicks says he's prepared to block any effort by the administration to lift the ban on carrying loaded weapons in national parks.

It's not an idle threat.

As chairman of the House Appropriations interior subcommittee, Dicks oversees the National Parks Service's annual budget and is in a position to prevent the administration from dropping the Reagan-era ban. While the Washington Democrat is usually reluctant to add legislative provisions to his spending bill, he is ready to make an exception in this case even if it prompts a presidential veto.

"Every now and then something rises up that needs to be fought and this is one of them," Dicks said.

The ban, and efforts by the National Rifle Association to lift it, has emerged as a major Second Amendment issue in this election year. Democrats say Republicans are using it as a "wedge" to exploit gun issues in an already heated political atmosphere. Republicans say they are just trying to protect the rights of gun owners.

The dispute already has interrupted consideration of a public lands bill in the Senate, which included the creation of the 100,000-acre Wild Sky Wilderness area in Washington.

Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne has said the ban is under review and a new regulation will be released April 30 that will update firearms policies in the national parks and wildlife refuges.

Current regulations ban loaded weapons in the federal parks and refuges. Unloaded weapons can be carried if they are locked in a safe place such as a car trunk.

Dicks said his counterpart in the Senate, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., has told him she would use her position as chairman of the Senate Appropriations interior subcommittee to also block any changes in the current regulations.

"Permitting loaded firearms to be carried or used within our national parks or wildlife refuges would be a radical, unprecedented change that would likely upset the delicate balance that exists between wildlife and park visitors in these areas," Dicks and Feinstein said in a letter to Kempthorne.


"More importantly," the letter continued, "allowing loaded and accessible weapons in national parks would create a dangerous environment for millions of American families who annually visit our national parks expecting a safe and enjoyable experience — not loaded firearms and stray bullets."

Dicks was an early supporter of efforts to ban handguns and assault weapons, in part because of the violence that so long flared in the Hilltop area of Tacoma.

"Everyone knows when you have guns, bad things happens," Dicks said in an interview.

Dicks called the effort to lift the loaded weapons in the parks a mistake and vowed to "fight it all the way. If this ban was good enough for the Reagan administration and James Watt, why isn't it good enough now?"

Watt was President Reagan's controversial interior secretary when regulations involving guns in the parks were last revised. The ban actually dates to 1936 amid concerns of illegal hunting and poaching in the parks.

Washington state's two senators also oppose any change in the regulations.

"Park rangers and conservationists have pointed to the reasonable gun regulations in our national parks as a reason they are some of the safest places in America," said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Murray was also upset the issue had interfered with passage of the Wild Sky Wilderness legislation, which was yanked from the floor when Sen. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., a longtime gun-rights advocate, said he would offer an amendment to the public lands bill lifting the ban.

"A bill creating new wilderness land for future generations shouldn't be the grounds for ideological battles to be waged," Murray said.

Democratic Washington Rep. Rick Larsen supports the current ban, while Republican Rep. Doc Hastings thinks it should be reviewed.

"The proposed rule change would have a negative impact on the safety of rangers, visitors and wildlife in our national parks," Larsen said.

Hastings believes the "Interior Department should review its policy and make sure it respects the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans."

Two other Washington state lawmakers, Democrat Adam Smith and Republican Dave Reichert, have yet to take a stand, though Reichert, a former King County sheriff, is talking with former park rangers.

A retired park rangers association and the National Parks Conservation Association adamantly oppose any change in the current regulations.

"It's truly unfortunate the National Rifle Association has chosen this issue to flex its election-year political muscle," said Tom Kiernan, president of the National Parks Conservation Association.

The NRA fired back.

"Law abiding citizens should not be prohibited from protecting themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges," said Chris Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist. "Under this proposal, federal parks and wildlife refuges will mirror the state firearms laws for state parks. This is an important step in the right direction."
 
allowing loaded and accessible weapons in national parks would create a dangerous environment for millions of American families who annually visit our national parks expecting a safe and enjoyable experience — not loaded firearms and stray bullets

no more dangerous than the streets across America where millions carry concealed weapons without incident... nice try folks... you're still losing.
 
-Because the NPS didn't just HALVE it's police force AND cut funding.

-Because the parks are so safe and pristine and NPS Morning Report doesn't -regularly- list major drug busts, rapes, assaults, poaching, and other crimes against people and wildlife.

-Because CCW Permit holders have caused SO MUCH TROUBLE in National Forests where carry is permitted.

-Because CCW Permit holders have caused SO MUCH TROUBLE outside National Parks where carry is permitted.

-Because criminals obey the law and don't carry and don't poach on NPS property NOW.

Sheesh I think I'm going to go off and puke someplace.
 
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I look forward to the day when the light-bulb goes on over the heads of the gun-grabbing Liberals/Dems when they realize that it's an ARMED populace they are trying to disarm.

I mean the expression on their face at that exact moment should be precious::what:
"Ummmmm...buddy......Miss......you DO realize you're trying to take our means of survival/defense from us?? What do you expect us to do........let you?"
:evil:
 
Well maybe this will help...
S-2619
Protecting Americans from Violent Crime Act of 2008



Sen Coburn has introduced this bill but I'm a little surprised it doesn't have at least 50 co-sponsors ...Time to call your senators and ask them to co-sponsor this one.
 
Coburn has an amendment pending to a stalled lands bill. His amendment to allow carry in parks stalled the bill

The reason the Democrats in Washington State are upset is that this bill would enact a pet wilderness area of theirs and that is now in SERIOUS jeopardy

This has got Dicks hysterical and off his rocker
 
"More importantly," the letter continued, "allowing loaded and accessible weapons in national parks would create a dangerous environment for millions of American families who annually visit our national parks expecting a safe and enjoyable experience — not loaded firearms and stray bullets."

I'm proud to tell you that's my ex-senator.
 
Once again, this is a legal forum now. Legal questions and information only. No complaint sessions.
 
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