JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
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MOA? Sub MOA? Can you print clover leaf groups at 200m?
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How accurate is a run of the mil..or Good Target AR in .223?
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Rock River Arm's Entry Tactical boasts 1 moa ~1k
White Oak Precision/Armament is made to do sub-moa. ~$700-1.5k
Entry level WOA will perform equal to RRA. Both will have about the same wait time. White Oak Precision will have a longer wait but will perform the best short of space rifles.
In the end it will all boil down to the shooter and hand loads, but the aforementioned rifles will be very capable of 1 moa.
White Oak Precision/Armament is made to do sub-moa. ~$700-1.5k
Entry level WOA will perform equal to RRA. Both will have about the same wait time. White Oak Precision will have a longer wait but will perform the best short of space rifles.
In the end it will all boil down to the shooter and hand loads, but the aforementioned rifles will be very capable of 1 moa.
FROM Wikipedia:
Minute of angle (MOA) is the measurement (in fractions of degrees) of a ballistic round's deviation from its initial heading due to gravity and/or the effect of air resistance on velocity. Informally known as a "Bullet's Trajectory" or "the rainbow effect". Long range weapons must account for this effect because a fired round falls at a quadratic rate. Weapons such as large caliber rifles use scopes with adjustments for elevation and windage.
The exact measure of MOA is 1.0471996" at 100 yards of distance. MOA is a quadratic effect so 1" of MOA at 100 yards would equate to .5235998" at 50 yards, 2.0943992" at 200 yards, 3.1415988" at 300 yards and so on
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So if a gun shoots a sub minute of angle at 100yrds it will shoot sub minute of angle at any distance. The group will just get larger.
Minute of angle (MOA) is the measurement (in fractions of degrees) of a ballistic round's deviation from its initial heading due to gravity and/or the effect of air resistance on velocity. Informally known as a "Bullet's Trajectory" or "the rainbow effect". Long range weapons must account for this effect because a fired round falls at a quadratic rate. Weapons such as large caliber rifles use scopes with adjustments for elevation and windage.
The exact measure of MOA is 1.0471996" at 100 yards of distance. MOA is a quadratic effect so 1" of MOA at 100 yards would equate to .5235998" at 50 yards, 2.0943992" at 200 yards, 3.1415988" at 300 yards and so on
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So if a gun shoots a sub minute of angle at 100yrds it will shoot sub minute of angle at any distance. The group will just get larger.
Enachos
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gb0399,
Thanks for posting that! I just purchased an RRA Tactical Entry (First rifle) a week and a half ago and I've been wondering this too. I just need to buy a bipod now so i can zero it well.
Thanks for posting that! I just purchased an RRA Tactical Entry (First rifle) a week and a half ago and I've been wondering this too. I just need to buy a bipod now so i can zero it well.
JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone
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I didn't ask for an explanation of MOA. I friggin know what it is!
And,.. I've seen rifles shoot less than MOA at short distances, that WILL NOT shoot the same load within MOA at longer distances. The amount of flight time does have effect on an unstable bullet. Just to be stable enough for a set of projectiles to print groups less than one half inch (1/2 of the general actual measurement of MOA.. That is.. Rounding down!), does not mean that that same combination of rifle and loaded cartridges sending projectiles will do the same at more distant targets.
I appreciate the other respondants for providing such manufactures that offer such minimal accuracy claims.
-Steve
And,.. I've seen rifles shoot less than MOA at short distances, that WILL NOT shoot the same load within MOA at longer distances. The amount of flight time does have effect on an unstable bullet. Just to be stable enough for a set of projectiles to print groups less than one half inch (1/2 of the general actual measurement of MOA.. That is.. Rounding down!), does not mean that that same combination of rifle and loaded cartridges sending projectiles will do the same at more distant targets.
I appreciate the other respondants for providing such manufactures that offer such minimal accuracy claims.
-Steve
I had a stripped RRA lower with one of del-ton's 16" CAR kits. It shot its favorite handloads into 1.5" though that was benched with a scope. I will say that getting a colapsing stock to ride a rear bag was a pain. With a solid rear stock I think it would do better yet. I had $140 in the lower and $460 in the kit. Not bad for the money. Certainly better rifles out there but for my money it did well.
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