wildehond
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I carry my Glock 22 with one in the chamber in either a Blackhawk concealment holster or a comp-tac MTAC. Both these holsters cover the whole trigger guard and it will be very hard for anything to get to the trigger.
How do you carry your striker fired pistol?
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JTQ
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As mentioned earlier, Raven Concealment Phantom is an excellent recommendation.
http://www.ravenconcealment.com/
It comes as an OWB holster, but you can get different attachments that will make it an IWB holster. It is very versatile.
Garrett Industries offer's their Silent Thunder holsters which are also very nice. Not as versatile as the Raven, but they are lined with leather.
http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/
http://www.ravenconcealment.com/
It comes as an OWB holster, but you can get different attachments that will make it an IWB holster. It is very versatile.
Garrett Industries offer's their Silent Thunder holsters which are also very nice. Not as versatile as the Raven, but they are lined with leather.
http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/
The Lone Haranguer
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Always with the chamber loaded. An empty chamber, IMO, even if the magazine is full, is the same as unloaded, leaving you with nothing but an expensive and unwieldy club or throwing object.
If you're concerned about being able to tell if the gun is "cocked," many of them do have a cocking indicator of some sort ... but not the M&P. But, if you always keep it in the same state - chamber loaded - it will always be cocked.
If you're concerned about being able to tell if the gun is "cocked," many of them do have a cocking indicator of some sort ... but not the M&P. But, if you always keep it in the same state - chamber loaded - it will always be cocked.
ny32182
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The only difference between a Glock/M&P and something like a Sig is that with the former you get the same trigger pull every time, and the latter, you get the DA/SA transition.
Chambered, holstered; it will fire when you pull the trigger, and not fire when you don't pull the trigger.
Chambered, holstered; it will fire when you pull the trigger, and not fire when you don't pull the trigger.
NavyLCDR
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Taurus PT-145 cocked and locked, one in the chamber, safety off. In a Fobus paddle holster.
CountryUgly
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IWB strong side behind hip slight forward cant, round chambered and a full mag.
Smith357
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In the city, SOB IWB in a holster I made, ten up the butt one in the pipe.
In the country on the hip in an M12 and the extended magazine.
In the country on the hip in an M12 and the extended magazine.
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mdauben
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Full mag, one in the pipe, holstered. With proper gun handling and a well designed holster, its perferctly safe to carry a striker-fired gun (like Glock) this way.
OregonJohnny
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When I first started carrying, the thought of keeping a pistol loaded with a round in the chamber, and no external safety made me very nervous.
I then realized what others here are saying. The gun cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled. Some are saying unless you pull the trigger, but it's actually more accurate to say unless the trigger is pulled. What I mean is that the trigger can be pulled by a foreign object or material, if it bunches up inside the trigger guard while reholstering. Think of the trigger like a can of gasoline and your finger is the match. Keep your finger off the trigger at all times unless your sights are on target and you are ready to fire. This will prevent 99% of all negligent discharges. The other 1% can be prevented by carefully reholstering, into a well made holster with a rigid open mouth, while checking to make sure no foreign object or material is going in the holster with the gun.
One night I was walking my dog on an unfamiliar, very dark road, carrying a Springfield XD40sc inside the waistband with no round in the chamber. I got that weird spooked feeling and thought, "what if I had to pull my gun and fire immediately at a threat, and I only have 1 hand available?" I have carried with a round in the chamber from that night forward.
A good quality kydex holster like the ones from Raven Concealment, can actually be used inside or outside the waistband, with just a switch of the belt loops. Then you can decide which is more comfortable. I have nothing against Raven, and lusted after one of their holsters for a while, then realized for the price of 1 of their holsters, you can get setup with just about everything you need to make your own top-quality kydex holsters at home. That is what I do now. It's a fun and rewarding side hobby.
I then realized what others here are saying. The gun cannot fire unless the trigger is pulled. Some are saying unless you pull the trigger, but it's actually more accurate to say unless the trigger is pulled. What I mean is that the trigger can be pulled by a foreign object or material, if it bunches up inside the trigger guard while reholstering. Think of the trigger like a can of gasoline and your finger is the match. Keep your finger off the trigger at all times unless your sights are on target and you are ready to fire. This will prevent 99% of all negligent discharges. The other 1% can be prevented by carefully reholstering, into a well made holster with a rigid open mouth, while checking to make sure no foreign object or material is going in the holster with the gun.
One night I was walking my dog on an unfamiliar, very dark road, carrying a Springfield XD40sc inside the waistband with no round in the chamber. I got that weird spooked feeling and thought, "what if I had to pull my gun and fire immediately at a threat, and I only have 1 hand available?" I have carried with a round in the chamber from that night forward.
A good quality kydex holster like the ones from Raven Concealment, can actually be used inside or outside the waistband, with just a switch of the belt loops. Then you can decide which is more comfortable. I have nothing against Raven, and lusted after one of their holsters for a while, then realized for the price of 1 of their holsters, you can get setup with just about everything you need to make your own top-quality kydex holsters at home. That is what I do now. It's a fun and rewarding side hobby.
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Like many have stated a quality hoslter for particular model will do the trick and makes it very safe. I have carried glock loaded for years. Don't pull the trigger and it won't fire. Simple as that. Rest all mechanical things can fail.
erikivy
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Since no one mentioned it yet, I'll throw my suggestion into the mix. I use a Comp-Tac owb paddle holster for my M&P 40. I'm new to carrying and am really pleased with how well it works for me.
ForumSurfer
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Excellent holster. It is the only paddle holster that I've tried that I actually liked. Those little wings on the paddle really make it stay put. I like to use it in IDPA sometimes. I can't conceal anything in that holster without a rather long cover garment, though. During the summer I rarely, if ever use it.
For modern striker fired pistols like the Glock, Springfield, etc keep them with round chambered if carrying or keeping ready for self defense. Treat them the same as if they where a double action revolver. They're safe as long as ou keep your finger off the trigger.
Pietro Beretta
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"Condition 0"
One in the Chamber, Magazine Topped off, Safety Off: Ready to Fire
In a Crossbreed Supertuck Holster and a gun belt from Crossbreed.
With as much as a forward cant as possible so the pistol conceals itself in my love handles
One in the Chamber, Magazine Topped off, Safety Off: Ready to Fire
In a Crossbreed Supertuck Holster and a gun belt from Crossbreed.
With as much as a forward cant as possible so the pistol conceals itself in my love handles
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av8usn
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Just parroting to some degree. Buy a quality holster that fits the pistol properly (NO BARSONY Leather crap) and fits you properly and comfortably. I use both leather pancake OWB, and leather IWB. Leather is just my preference. I carry "topped off" with my pistols and revolvers because it is doubtful that you would have the presence of mind to draw, rack, and acquire in a confrontation (heaven forbid.) Practice as you would play!
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Yes, the chance of an accidental discharge is greater when a round is chambered relative to when the chamber is empty. Read, for example:
http://ohhshoot.blogspot.com/2012/02/gun-unintentionally-discharged-in.html
http://floridaconcealedcarry.com/Fo...-Discharge-of-a-Concealed-Firearm-Kills-Woman
For this reason, some choose to carry on an empty chamber.
Plan2Live
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Okay, I'll be the contrarian. I've been carrying and XDm 3.8 Compact in a Galco OWB holster designed for this pistol. However, I cannot get 100% comfortable carrying with one in the pipe so 90% of the time I carry without one in the pipe.
Part of my reluctance to carrying with a round in the chamber is that I am in and out of a lot of places that are off limits for firearms so I am regularly having to take it on and off inside my vehicle exposing the trigger.
That is why I am looking for, but have not found, a great DA/SA hammer gun to carry.
Part of my reluctance to carrying with a round in the chamber is that I am in and out of a lot of places that are off limits for firearms so I am regularly having to take it on and off inside my vehicle exposing the trigger.
That is why I am looking for, but have not found, a great DA/SA hammer gun to carry.
Zerodefect
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CCW: Loaded and chambered, in a Crossbreed Supertuck or Ravens Concealent holster. Good stiff kydex is key. Be careful reholstering.
At home: If it has one in the chamber, then it's in a holster. That's the rule for all guns at home. The holster is a safe spot for a pistol, triggers covered. It can be safely moved, dropped, and never confused with the empty ones on the shelf.
At home: If it has one in the chamber, then it's in a holster. That's the rule for all guns at home. The holster is a safe spot for a pistol, triggers covered. It can be safely moved, dropped, and never confused with the empty ones on the shelf.
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To reduce the chance of an ND, I recommend carrying condition butterscotch.
Sure it takes practice, but its safe.
In all seriousness though, I carry with 1 in the pipe and the mag topped off. I do find im always tense when I have to un-holster and re-holster in the car, But you get used to it. With any "new to you" variation in a gun the best thing to do is get comfortable with it. I just picked up my new Kimber CDP ultra this morning and its my first carry 1911 with a ambi-safety. Just as when I first started carrying my other 1911 cocked and locked, I wear it around the house, all day, unloaded. It just puts my mind at ease that I dont find the hammer magically down or the safety off. A good holster is priceless, then take your time, get comfy with the idea and above all else... Be careful!
Sure it takes practice, but its safe.
In all seriousness though, I carry with 1 in the pipe and the mag topped off. I do find im always tense when I have to un-holster and re-holster in the car, But you get used to it. With any "new to you" variation in a gun the best thing to do is get comfortable with it. I just picked up my new Kimber CDP ultra this morning and its my first carry 1911 with a ambi-safety. Just as when I first started carrying my other 1911 cocked and locked, I wear it around the house, all day, unloaded. It just puts my mind at ease that I dont find the hammer magically down or the safety off. A good holster is priceless, then take your time, get comfy with the idea and above all else... Be careful!
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One of the reasons i love my SA XD 40 is the 'safety' features built into it.
even tho it is an SAO trigger, there are two features that make me comfortable to carry it locked and and a loaded chamber. First is a grip safety. can't fire it unless grip is held firmly. also, the gun has the socalled USA trigger. it's a dual stage trigger, the first of which must be squeezed back before the second stage can be depressed to release the striker. you can't accidentally pull back on the side of the trigger and accidentally fire it. now, granted, the gun is a machine, and machines will fail. however, for both features to fail at the same time? doubtful. but if it happens, i guess it's time to meet my maker, or lose my ability to procreate!
even tho it is an SAO trigger, there are two features that make me comfortable to carry it locked and and a loaded chamber. First is a grip safety. can't fire it unless grip is held firmly. also, the gun has the socalled USA trigger. it's a dual stage trigger, the first of which must be squeezed back before the second stage can be depressed to release the striker. you can't accidentally pull back on the side of the trigger and accidentally fire it. now, granted, the gun is a machine, and machines will fail. however, for both features to fail at the same time? doubtful. but if it happens, i guess it's time to meet my maker, or lose my ability to procreate!
The Kahr P9 Covert started out as a BUG to my Glock 23 which originally was carried in a Fobus ( I know)paddle holster which I liked primarily for ease of removal and putting back in. I still like it for range use.
I now use a blade tech IWB for the G23 but have been using the Kahr more and more as a primary.
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DeSantis Apache ankle rig
I now use a blade tech IWB for the G23 but have been using the Kahr more and more as a primary.
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Kytac Pockit Lockit
Lou Alessi ankle rig
DeSantis Apache ankle rig
GunNut
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Loaded with one in the chamber and in a good holster.
OWB in one of these:
Or in my pocket in this:
OWB in one of these:
Or in my pocket in this:
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The trigger safety is to prevent the trigger from being pulled by inertia if the pistol was dropped. I'm not sure what kind of force it would take for that to happen but that's it's intention.
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