How do YOU define long range?

[taliv]

not me. i'd rather have a group twice that size (heck, 3x that size) centered up than the one pictured. as pictured, it looks like he shot a 46. it looks like 2-3x would still hold the 9 ring and result in a 90.

btw, i see groups like that just about every match. it happens when somebody forgets to put their dope on hate that

 

[35 Whelen]

not me. i'd rather have a group twice that size (heck, 3x that size) centered up than the one pictured. as pictured, it looks like he shot a 46. it looks like 2-3x would still hold the 9 ring and result in a 90.

3x that size, huh? Are you serious? Do you shoot rifles with fixed sights or something? What you're saying makes no sense. After firing that group, I installed an aftermarket "tall" front sight, adjusted the rear sight and pulled the group right into the bull.

But hey, if you like large groups, more power to you.

35W

 

[dagger dog]

Hey it's a bullseye target, they gotta be in the bullseye for a small group, right?

 

[taliv]

i got the impression that target was from a stage in the match you linked to. if that's not the case, and you were just sighting in, then i agree, that's fine.

however, i stand by my statement that if i had to choose between a larger centered group and a sub-MOA group that's 8 MOA off, i'll take the larger group.

 

[ReadyFreddy23]

Well, according to my CCW, anything over 21 feet is long range.

Seriously though, I'm very new to shooting. I only have one rifle (S&W M&P AR-15 Tactical) and 2 shotguns. Also, I haven't had the opportunity to shoot beyond 100 yds yet. I don't have a scope yet either. So far, just iron sights. I do have an EoTech 552.

I would like to get a Remington 700 LTR .308.

As of now, most of my shooting has been with handguns.

 

[USMCDK]

21ft. so you shot military qualification 7yrd? I have to agree with you statement shooting even that range can sometime be troubling I still have trouble shooting a close group at 10yrs with my pistol.

As for your AR-15 like I said in the Marines we shot at the 500yrd line with only the Iron sights, but they are adjustables to include the front sight post.

 

[bwavec]

Over 300 yards.....assuming that we are talking about iron sights (no optics).

 

[Fatelvis]

>300 yds for rifle
>50 yds for handgun