madmike
Member
Difference between the police and the Army:
the military exists to break things and kill people--NOT our things or people. We get regular lectures on laws of war and civilians on the line of fire. Heck, we can't even go CLEAN weapons without watching a video on where weapons may not be stored (medical facilities, etc). We don't (in overwhelming general) WANT to be arresting people, or detaining people. It's a pain, and it's not what we do.
When it looked as if they were going to restrict ammo in 1992, very many gun-owning soldiers and reservists maxed out their credit cards to buy entire pallets of ammo. We're not the enemy. We won't be knocking on your door. When it looked as if Klinton might actually go that far, discussions were held, and every officer I spoke to was quietly clear that it would not happen. That order would be ignored, and since WE had the weapons, who was going to make us obey an unlawful order?
By and large, we regard cops, agents, firefighters, rescue workers and others as fellow servants. By and large, the firefighters, rescue workers and medics agree.
By and large, cops don't. I've had more than a few give me a scared, deep-eyed look and the rant about how, "You can't know what it's really like out there! It's dangerous, and there's people who want to hurt us!"
Yes, after natural disasters, riot control and Kuwait, I don't know what it's like out there. But I do know we both volunteered, and if you can't handle the job, McDonald's is always waiting.
Now, this is not all cops. But it's certainly a respectable percentage. I recall the only time I got arrested (on a firearms charge), the cop was just DROOLING at having a "Felony bust" for promotion time. No consideration of me, I was just points for the record. No charges were filed and I was out in 24 hours, which says what the "tough on crime" prosecutor thought of the issue.
How many cops have YOU heard whine about, "I don't like arresting people, but it's my job."
Hey, find a job you like. Or get some ethics.
Again, this is not ALL cops. But you can bet that one or two will rant about how I'm being unfair to quote my experiences as representative. Cops stick together. Sometimes, that's a good thing.
And sometimes it's defending a criminal thug.
If the order comes to round up "assault weapons" or start checking numbers, it won't be the military doing it.
But it will very definitely be cops who "have no choice" because "it's their job."
the military exists to break things and kill people--NOT our things or people. We get regular lectures on laws of war and civilians on the line of fire. Heck, we can't even go CLEAN weapons without watching a video on where weapons may not be stored (medical facilities, etc). We don't (in overwhelming general) WANT to be arresting people, or detaining people. It's a pain, and it's not what we do.
When it looked as if they were going to restrict ammo in 1992, very many gun-owning soldiers and reservists maxed out their credit cards to buy entire pallets of ammo. We're not the enemy. We won't be knocking on your door. When it looked as if Klinton might actually go that far, discussions were held, and every officer I spoke to was quietly clear that it would not happen. That order would be ignored, and since WE had the weapons, who was going to make us obey an unlawful order?
By and large, we regard cops, agents, firefighters, rescue workers and others as fellow servants. By and large, the firefighters, rescue workers and medics agree.
By and large, cops don't. I've had more than a few give me a scared, deep-eyed look and the rant about how, "You can't know what it's really like out there! It's dangerous, and there's people who want to hurt us!"
Yes, after natural disasters, riot control and Kuwait, I don't know what it's like out there. But I do know we both volunteered, and if you can't handle the job, McDonald's is always waiting.
Now, this is not all cops. But it's certainly a respectable percentage. I recall the only time I got arrested (on a firearms charge), the cop was just DROOLING at having a "Felony bust" for promotion time. No consideration of me, I was just points for the record. No charges were filed and I was out in 24 hours, which says what the "tough on crime" prosecutor thought of the issue.
How many cops have YOU heard whine about, "I don't like arresting people, but it's my job."
Hey, find a job you like. Or get some ethics.
Again, this is not ALL cops. But you can bet that one or two will rant about how I'm being unfair to quote my experiences as representative. Cops stick together. Sometimes, that's a good thing.
And sometimes it's defending a criminal thug.
If the order comes to round up "assault weapons" or start checking numbers, it won't be the military doing it.
But it will very definitely be cops who "have no choice" because "it's their job."
