How far should one be able to run from danger?

[cassandrasdaddy]

I am woefully outa shape but i get out and try the only reason i did a 6:09 in the mile is my 8 year old was right in front of me. it was her race i was just along for the ride

folks might try working on staying in shape a lil. think of it as training and preparation.

 

[ilikepancakes]

It's got me thinking. My personal range is about 400-500 yards behind my house. Maybe on my outings I should think about running there and back, and leaving the 4 wheeler in the shed. Wouldn't be much, but it would be something.

That's a good idea actually. Not only for the running but you'll be able to practice a few shots while your heart is still pounding and your breathing is fast... panic conditions!

 

[BeerSleeper]

Seriously? I just don't see that tightening my groups that much.
(joking aside, I actually like that idea. Next time I finish a shoot, I'll pin up fresh targets before I leave, and the time after that, I'll head out with the holster on my hip, instead of in the range bag.)

I shoot in a pasture that is in a low spot, and is about 1/4 mile wide by a 1/2 mile long. If I could plan it out that every shooting spot had safe backstops, I could make a running trail/shooting course. Trouble is, I'm a little more fired up about the shooting than the running.

 

[Sgt_R]

1/4 mile sprint.

If I need to run in this context, then it'll be an all out sprint. And if I'm ever in a position where I need to sprint more than 1/4 mile to get to safety, then it's time for Plan B.

R

 

[xanderzuk]

I actually find it a bit troubling that a lot of these "old fat guys" are simply relying on carrying a firearm to be the only tool in their inventory for self defense. Even if you were to practice regularly, I think it's very narrow minded to think that threats will only be that 5-7 yards (or whatever) that they are statistically, and approach it as such.

What if you did have to run a hundred yards (combined), perhaps jump/climb over some things, etc. What do you think you're heart will be doing when it comes time to pull the trigger? Your rarely used muscles will also be fatigued. You could suffer from serious accuracy issues, or worse, begin to suffer from a heart attack or stroke.

I guess my concern parallel's some of the other members recently; people aren't thinking outside the box. Many people have made the first step of shedding naivety by acknowledging that there are bad people are out there and it is necessary to be prepared for an encounter with them, wherever that may be. However, too many make the mistake that they will always have the drop on the bad guy, that even though the bad guy has his weapon out first, you will be able to draw before he can react. That the bad guy is dumb, and therefore easily defeated. That being fat is ok... because you have a gun.

If not for your performance, at least do it for your health.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

for me my paranoia makes me imagine that in order to defend the kids i might have to get to em from some distance in order to do that. and i'd feel like a real fuf is i was 2 hundred yards away waving my gun as i gasped for air and something bad happened to em.

 

[Buddy Rabbit]

Miles and miles and miles . . . until you puke out, fall down, and submit.
Other than scenario above - run until you can achieve cover/concealment. Then go with communications - cell/start banging cars until alarms go off/holler. Pray for help, because you are unarmed.
After that - you are on your own.

 

[Lew]

As far as humans vs. animals, it's interesting that over short distances, pretty much anything can beat us. But for endurance running, humans actually are extremely well-evolved, in part due to our cooling system. We can outrun lots of animals, even horses, over long distances, especially in warm climates. Just interesting.

Carry on...

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

and never forget "the scared run faster than the angry"

 

[Hardtarget]

Whats the T-shirt say? " why run...you'll just die tired ".

I'm 60 now. I've tried running...I don't get very far before I have to stop. If I'm with my wife, I cannot run because she can't. ( both knees replaced). Also, last time I ran...it was only 150 yds. My knees hurt so bad for 6 weeks I could hardly walk. That takes training out. I can walk but that doesn't give very much real fitness help. So, it seems like I'm stuck with very short sprint for cover then turn and fight.

Mark

 

[Fred Fuller]

One of my friends, who at the time probably had the oldest date of rank as a captain in the whole active duty US Army, used to wear a tee shirt to PT (before the days of issue PT uniforms) that said, "If we could shoot, we wouldn't have to run."

lpl

 

[bikerdoc]

One of my friends, who at the time probably had the oldest date of rank as a captain in the whole active duty US Army

Now that sounds a lot more interesting than how far can you run.

P S, I dont run, cant, wont and refuse to. See my sig line

 

[Old Shooter]

I'd just run to the local U-Haul counter, rent a van and move to someplace where I can carry legally to defend myself.

My daddy told me that if I learned to shoot I wouldn't have to worry about running.

 

[ranger335v]

"how far could your average 20-year-old run before tiring out? Average fitness. Say, 10 mph."

Actually, 10 mph is a fast pace to maintain for any distance. Considering the couch potato mindset of most gomers, I figger he would run flat out maybe 100 yards and collapse in an air-gasping heap.

 

[Leanwolf]

GRITACULAR - "My fastest childhood friend (no longer) now robs people outside ATMs with a knife. Good luck trying to outrun him."

Send that boy out here to Idaho. Lots and lot of men and women here are armed, both concealed and openly.

Guess what'll happen to your late friend.

L.W.

 

[Sgt_R]

Send that boy out here to Idaho. Lots and lot of men and women here are armed, both concealed and openly.

My grandma' lives up in the panhandle. She looks like a stiff breeze would blow her over, but she's carried a .380 in her purse for as long as I can remember, practices with it regularly, and I have no doubt she'd use it if she had to. Some punk with a knife wouldn't stand a chance.

R

 

[Geno]

Dear Forrest Gump:

Funny, I always looked at running 1 mile as a great cardiovascular and pulmonary warm-up to training in martial arts each day. After I tested for my first Black Belt about 33 years ago, I decided I'd never have to run...unless it was for 3 feet to catch someone who was stupid enough to intimidate a runt like me.

Ya see, it's like this. I ain't really so big, at 5'9" and 180ish pounds. I don't look like I weigh but 150. And I'm kinda on the "pretty" side. I'm the sorta pretty-boy that some big, dumb fella would like to make scream uncle. That hain't worked out so well for those who tried to actualize their dream of seein' me squeel like a school girl.

Guess what I'm tryin' to suggest is that ya use that runnin', Forrest, as a warm-up to a training session in TaeKwonDo, or whatever else floats your boat. Between now and then, get yourself two huge cans of pepper spray.

Geno