goalie
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I am just wondering how heavy you highpower guys like your rifle to be? I recently added weights to my AR in the handguards and the stock and cannot believe how much more stable it is in offhand.
How Heavy?
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Steve Smith
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Everyone likes them to be different. I know some guys that like them as light as possible, and I know one guy that has 19# ARs. I think mine are somewhere in the middle at #14ish, but I'm considering loading up my NTIT gun.
wanderinwalker
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Granted, I'm not the best help, but...
My AR weighs right around 15#, +/- a little bit. I like it offhand, sitting, prone rapid and for the first 10-15 rounds of a prone-slow event. It does start to wear on me going for 20 minutes prone, but I imagine practice and conditioning will solve that problem.
HTH,
~Nate
My AR weighs right around 15#, +/- a little bit. I like it offhand, sitting, prone rapid and for the first 10-15 rounds of a prone-slow event. It does start to wear on me going for 20 minutes prone, but I imagine practice and conditioning will solve that problem.
HTH,
~Nate
Steve Smith
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Nate, if your arm is getting tired in slow prone, you are using muscle to hold the gun. Work on your position until you can fall asleep with it in place.
goalie
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OK, I used the scale and found out that my mousegun is sitting at 15.5#. I am thinking that it shouldn't be too bad for offhand, and I like the way it wobbles less, but man-o-man I am glad I didn't have to hold this bastard out in front of me in boot camp when someone in the platoon screwed up!!!!
wanderinwalker
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Steve,
Thanks for the advice, I'll work on the position a little.
It's not so much in my arm as my hand. When you're cradling the rifle in the palm of your hand, it rests on the web. I get sore right there after a while. My arm can go the distance but the web of my hand starts to tire. It likely is position, so I will work on it some more.
goalie,
Sounds like you're in the ballpark where I've heard most people have their rifles set up.
Thanks for the advice, I'll work on the position a little.
It's not so much in my arm as my hand. When you're cradling the rifle in the palm of your hand, it rests on the web. I get sore right there after a while. My arm can go the distance but the web of my hand starts to tire. It likely is position, so I will work on it some more.
goalie,
Sounds like you're in the ballpark where I've heard most people have their rifles set up.
Steve Smith
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Maybe try a different glove. Also, rest the rifle between shots. After a shot I bring the butt to the ground and slightly raise my left arm, putting weight on it. This tends to get blood flowing again (in case I got a fold of coat on my arteria humeri, or whatever.
30Cal
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I shoot the M1A. Mine was weighing in at 14.5lbs for a while, but I took out a pound to get it to balance better. I might get around to putting that pound back on if I can find a way to spread it between the buttstock and the forend.
Jon Coppenbarger
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Try what I do when I start to instruct someone in off hand.
I will get into position to show what it is supposed to look like.
Then start from scratch and explain the reason for every move while building the off hand.
but what I like is after the position is built I can leave the rifle in place ballanced and only supported bu my left hand and arm and instrust the finer points of proper balance and stance for minutes and minutes and only put it down when I have done my explanation. It gets the point across that position in off hand is just a repeat memory function and now the shot is all mental after that.
My rifle weigh's in around 15.5 to 16 and in off hand I add about another 1.5 pounds with a loaded mag and also use it in slow fire also.
NTIT it is loaded to the max and thinking about trying to add another pound or so to it.
Jon
I will get into position to show what it is supposed to look like.
Then start from scratch and explain the reason for every move while building the off hand.
but what I like is after the position is built I can leave the rifle in place ballanced and only supported bu my left hand and arm and instrust the finer points of proper balance and stance for minutes and minutes and only put it down when I have done my explanation. It gets the point across that position in off hand is just a repeat memory function and now the shot is all mental after that.
My rifle weigh's in around 15.5 to 16 and in off hand I add about another 1.5 pounds with a loaded mag and also use it in slow fire also.
NTIT it is loaded to the max and thinking about trying to add another pound or so to it.
Jon
Steve Smith
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To clarify what Jon said, his mag is loaded with lead, NOT ammo. The standing positon is to be fired with one round in the rifle.
Heavy Barrel
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This one weighs 26 1/2 lb
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