How is this for hypocrisy...

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FBI log: Troutman raids turned up 'suspect' drugs, gun

By Jeff Coen
Tribune staff reporter
Published January 12, 2007, 8:18 PM CST


Federal documents made public Friday show the scope of the investigation into Chicago Ald. Arenda Troutman and indicate the FBI may not be done looking into her connections to street gangs.

Evidence logs from searches of Troutman's home and office on Monday also show that agents allegedly found suspected drugs, drug paraphernalia and a handgun.

Earlier this week, authorities charged Troutman with accepting a bribe to smooth the way for a mixed-use development on the South Side. Troutman has denied the accusations.

The documents show some of the suspected drugs were recovered in Troutman's home in the 6500 block of South Kimbark Avenue, where the revolver also was found. A "white powdery substance in Ziploc plastic bag" was found in her office at 5958 S. State St., the documents state, noting it was found in a desk drawer.

FBI spokesman Ross Rice said laboratory testing of the substances was not complete.

Troutman's lawyer, Sam Adam Jr., said he believes that testing will show the powder was a vitamin supplement.

"Anybody who knows anything about Arenda Troutman can tell you she is a health freak," Adam said. "She hasn't eaten meat in years; she's a vegetarian.

"Arenda Troutman does not do drugs," he said. "We need to wait until these lab tests come back and see what we're talking about here."

Troutman, the 20th Ward alderman, has been under law enforcement scrutiny in the past for her association with Donnell "Scandalous" Jehan, an alleged Black Disciples gang leader who has fled to avoid drug conspiracy charges.

Agents were to seize "records and documents of press releases issued by Arenda Troutman, her aldermanic office, her committeeman office, her campaign committees or her employees regarding law-enforcement issues and street-gang activity."

Aldermen are an exception to Chicago's ban on handguns, and Adam said he believes Troutman's gun was lawfully owned and kept.

Adam said Troutman needed protection in the economically depressed area where she lives and serves. Her home has been broken into in the past, and the gun was registered to a private detective who left it for her, Adam said.

"She didn't go up to the North Shore to run, or to the southwest suburbs among the affluent to make things better," he said. "She's right there in the 'hood."

Troutman said Thursday the charges do not deter her from running for another term in the Feb. 27 election, but opponent Willie B. Cochran called on her to resign Friday.

The search warrants in the Troutman case included lists of items to be seized. Included were bank records, lists and receipts; income and expense summaries; cash disbursement journals, and other financial information. Also listed were computer equipment and documents.

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Wait until 1/1/08. Then the muzzling begins. Thanks for sharing.

Adam said Troutman needed protection in the economically depressed area where she lives and serves. Her home has been broken into in the past, and the gun was registered to a private detective who left it for her

So, she is the only person that lives there? Everyone else must be safe becasue they don't get guns.
 
From another local paper...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/215575,CST-NWS-trout18.article

'She just wanted to feel safe'
Cable host defends decision to give gun to Troutman

January 18, 2007
BY FRANK MAIN AND NATASHA KORECKI Staff Reporters
Cable TV host W.L. Lillard defended Ald. Arenda Troutman on his talk show in 2005 after the Sun-Times exposed her family's ties to the scandal-plagued Hired Truck Program.
Now Lillard is defending his own decision to provide Troutman (20th) with a handgun the FBI seized from her home when she was arrested last week on bribery charges.

Lillard, a state-licensed private detective, said he was authorized to give the gun to Troutman because she is considered a peace officer under state law. She needed protection because her home was burglarized in 2004, he said.

"She was not going to carry it on the street. She just wanted to feel safe," said Lillard, a former police captain in south suburban Phoenix and host of "Straight Talk" on Channel 25.

But authorities question whether Lillard followed the legal procedures to transfer the gun to Troutman. And they say she failed to register the gun with the city.

"There is no exception in the city ordinance that would be applicable in this situation," said city Law Department spokeswoman Jennifer Hoyle.

"Since this is an ongoing federal investigation, it would be premature at this point to enforce an ordinance violation," added Monique Bond, a police spokeswoman.


'Not an illegal handgun'
Troutman attorney Sam Adam Jr. acknowledged Troutman probably was in violation of the ordinance but said she would fight any attempt to cite her.
"It was certainly not an illegal handgun," Adam said. "It was only there to protect herself and her children."

Lillard, a self-described yoga master whose show features African-American politicians and entertainers, said he and Troutman are close -- in part because of their affiliation with the African Hebrew Israelite movement.

Lillard said he watched her home and gave her his .357-caliber Colt Python revolver for protection after she reported two burglaries to police in 2004.

Lillard registered the gun with the city in 1983 but did not renew the registration annually, police said. The city can't require private eyes like Lillard to register their guns anymore, according to a state appeals court decision.

On Jan. 8, the FBI said it seized the gun from Troutman's home in the 6500 block of South Kimbark, along with suspected drugs.

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How is this for hypocrisy...

That's up there pretty high on the scale. Play with fire and get burned. She's looking to be toast.

Exempt from the firearm ban but what about needing a FOID? Maybe so since she wasn't even the gun's owner. Wonder how much trouble he is in for loaning it out?

That's one heck of an optomistic lawyer she has. Knows nothing but is overflowing with possibilities. Haha, vitamins... Maybe if she was eating meat her brain would have been functioning well enough to avoid this?
 
Ryder,

In Illinois you need to FOID to Possess (i.e. just touch) a gun.

(430 ILCS 65/2) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑2)
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(a) (1) No person may acquire or possess any firearm,
stun gun, or taser within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.

(2) No person may acquire or possess firearm
ammunition within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act.

(b) The provisions of this Section regarding the possession of firearms, firearm ammunition, stun guns, and tasers do not apply to:
(1) United States Marshals, while engaged in the
operation of their official duties;

(2) Members of the Armed Forces of the United States
or the National Guard, while engaged in the operation of their official duties;

(3) Federal officials required to carry firearms,
while engaged in the operation of their official duties;

(4) Members of bona fide veterans organizations
which receive firearms directly from the armed forces of the United States, while using the firearms for ceremonial purposes with blank ammunition;

(5) Nonresident hunters during hunting season, with
valid nonresident hunting licenses and while in an area where hunting is permitted; however, at all other times and in all other places these persons must have their firearms unloaded and enclosed in a case;

(6) Those hunters exempt from obtaining a hunting
license who are required to submit their Firearm Owner's Identification Card when hunting on Department of Natural Resources owned or managed sites;

(7) Nonresidents while on a firing or shooting range
recognized by the Department of State Police; however, these persons must at all other times and in all other places have their firearms unloaded and enclosed in a case;

(8) Nonresidents while at a firearm showing or
display recognized by the Department of State Police; however, at all other times and in all other places these persons must have their firearms unloaded and enclosed in a case;

(9) Nonresidents whose firearms are unloaded and
enclosed in a case;

(10) Nonresidents who are currently licensed or
registered to possess a firearm in their resident state;

(11) Unemancipated minors while in the custody and
immediate control of their parent or legal guardian or other person in loco parentis to the minor if the parent or legal guardian or other person in loco parentis to the minor has a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card;

(12) Color guards of bona fide veterans
organizations or members of bona fide American Legion bands while using firearms for ceremonial purposes with blank ammunition;

(13) Nonresident hunters whose state of residence
does not require them to be licensed or registered to possess a firearm and only during hunting season, with valid hunting licenses, while accompanied by, and using a firearm owned by, a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card and while in an area within a commercial club licensed under the Wildlife Code where hunting is permitted and controlled, but in no instance upon sites owned or managed by the Department of Natural Resources;

(14) Resident hunters who are properly authorized to
hunt and, while accompanied by a person who possesses a valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card, hunt in an area within a commercial club licensed under the Wildlife Code where hunting is permitted and controlled; and

(15) A person who is otherwise eligible to obtain a
Firearm Owner's Identification Card under this Act and is under the direct supervision of a holder of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card who is 21 years of age or older while the person is on a firing or shooting range or is a participant in a firearms safety and training course recognized by a law enforcement agency or a national, statewide shooting sports organization.

(c) The provisions of this Section regarding the acquisition and possession of firearms, firearm ammunition, stun guns, and tasers do not apply to law enforcement officials of this or any other jurisdiction, while engaged in the operation of their official duties.
(Source: P.A. 94‑6, eff. 1‑1‑06.)

I guess Alderman trumps Football Player when it comes to the CPD/ Cook County state's attorney enforcing the FOID act. :fire: :evil:

"Since this is an ongoing federal investigation, it would be premature at this point to enforce an ordinance violation," added Monique Bond, a police spokeswoman.

'Not an illegal handgun'
Troutman attorney Sam Adam Jr. acknowledged Troutman probably was in violation of the ordinance but said she would fight any attempt to cite her.
"It was certainly not an illegal handgun," Adam said. "It was only there to protect herself and her children."

I want to see if she had a FOID card...........

Oh and just to get it off my chest:
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http://www.chicagodefender.com/page/local.cfm?ArticleID=3863
Pistol packin’ aldermen protected by the law

by Faith Okpotor
February 3, 2006

Many - perhaps most - Chicago aldermen have chosen not to exercise their statutory right to carry a weapon.

Most, that is, except the fiery, hat-wearing alderman from the Third Ward.

Dorothy Tillman startled those present at a Police and Fire Committee meeting of the Chicago City Council several years ago, an aldermanic aide recalled, when the issue of aldermen owning guns was broached.

"I carry a gun," she announced, pulling a pistol out of her purse.

A survey of all 50 aldermen had one aldermanic aide - not from Tillman's office - say, "You should talk to Tillman. Tillman is your girl."

Despite the fact that it is illegal for ordinary citizens to carry concealed weapons in Chicago, it's different for alderman. An 1872 state law allows aldermen and other municipal officials, as peace officers, to carry guns, make arrests and detain suspects "after receiving a certificate attesting to the successful completion of a training course administered by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board."

Sheila Albright, an assistant to the director of the training standards board, said her agency does not have a record of how many municipal officials have guns, nor of how many have undergone the necessary training.

Some aldermen who do not personally bear arms said they understand why others would want to.

"I don't need one," said Ald. Brian Doherty (41st), the lone City Council Republican from the far Northwest Side. "I feel secure in this area." But Doherty said he would carry a gun if he lived in a high-crime neighborhood.

"In this position we don't have bodyguards," Doherty said. "[Aldermen with guns] have the ability to defend themselves." He added that Ald. Edward Burke (14th), chairman of the Finance Committee, and Tillman both carry guns. Neither Burke nor Tillman returned numerous calls seeking comment.

Burke also has the distinction of being the only alderman with a security detail from the Chicago Police Department.

Of the 15 aldermen who responded to inquiries, 14 said they do not have guns, six said they had no problem with aldermen being allowed to carry concealed weapons and two disagree with the idea altogether.

Those two, Toni Preckwinkle (4th) and Latasha Thomas (17th), were vocal.

"I am a big supporter of gun control," Preckwinkle said curtly, "and I don't carry a gun."

Thomas said, "I am not a fan of guns. I don't think I need it. I use the police just like any other citizen." Thomas also said it is unnecessary for aldermen to pack heat, and that if the matter ever came before her, she would vote to repeal the law.

Ald. Anthony Beale (9th), being a hunter, has guns and a firearms identification card, said Rich Ringer, his spokesman. But Ringer said Beale does not carry concealed weapons on his person as a peace officer.

Another alderman opposed to guns is Walter Burnett Jr. (27th).

"I am totally against it," Burnett said, adding, however, that he would not criticize his colleagues who have chosen to own guns. "It has an effect on people's emotions. They get confrontational when they have a gun."

Emotions definitely ran wild on one occasion. Tillman allegedly brandished her gun during a shouting and shoving match at a ward redistricting meeting in November 1991. She allegedly pulled a .38-caliber snub-nosed revolver. The incident resulted in a reference to Chicago by a Washington Post writer as the "wild, wild (Mid)west."

Perhaps the most remarkable thing over the 134 years the law has been in effect is that no gunfights have taken place during a City Council meeting or the often contentious committee meetings - such as deliberations for the recently passed smoking ban.

Former state Rep. Lee Preston, D-Chicago, now a Cook County judge, said he unsuccessfully tried to repeal the law when he was serving in the General Assembly. Preston said his measure failed because aldermen were successful in getting their legislators to protect their clout.

"It is bizarre," Preston said. "It makes absolutely no sense. They have badges, they can initiate arrests. The law is archaic. It ought to be repealed. If it makes you feel safer that aldermen are out there carrying guns without training..."

Mayor Richard M. Daley and Gov. Rod Blagojevich have recently repeated calls to ban assault weapons in Illinois. According to a Chicago Police Department 2004 murder analysis report, 313 of the 448 murders in Chicago were committed using handguns, not assault weapons.

Gun control opponents have criticized a policy that allows aldermen, but not ordinary citizens, to bear arms.

Ald. Ariel Reboyras (30th) has a gun license dating back to his days as director of security for the city's water purification plant, but said he never purchased one.

However, he said: "I think it is a good law. We are protecting individuals."

"I carry my badge everywhere," Reboyras added as he pulled the badge from his pocket and read from its insignia: "City of Chicago, Alderman."

I dont ever want to set foot in Chicago again. I dont like the fact that the voters dont see the hypocrisy of it all. I like Alderman Tomas's view on alderman carrying guns. :neener:

If I cant carry nobody else should be able to.
 
"It was certainly not an illegal handgun," Adam said. "It was only there to protect herself and her children."

I should try that excuse in NJ....I'd be locked up in a NY minute:cuss:
 
Obama hails from Illinois doesn't he?

Is he part of or was part of the Great Chicago Political Machine? Just curios.
Gun control has never really been about the guns. Just WHO gets them.
 
Only a lawyer could come up with this and not bust a gut laughing at himself halfway through it:

Troutman attorney Sam Adam Jr. acknowledged Troutman probably was in violation of the ordinance but said she would fight any attempt to cite her.
"It was certainly not an illegal handgun," Adam said. "It was only there to protect herself and her children."

Last I knew, an ordinance was a municipal-level law. So what the lawyer is saying boils down to "Yes she broke the law but doing so was not illegal."

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Former state Rep. Lee Preston, D-Chicago, now a Cook County judge, said he unsuccessfully tried to repeal the law when he was serving in the General Assembly. Preston said his measure failed because aldermen were successful in getting their legislators to protect their clout.
To top it off you have prior politicians in favor of gun control becoming judges. Sure you will get a fair trial involving self defense or a firearm in that court room :rolleyes: Minor alleged violataions maybe?:rolleyes: Nah your pretty much screwed.
 
Looks like Troutman illegally had that gun and might very well get charged for it.
 
Agents were to seize "records and documents of press releases issued by Arenda Troutman, her aldermanic office, her committeeman office, her campaign committees or her employees regarding law-enforcement issues and street-gang activity."

Ok, what kind of Judge issues a warrant for personal copies of public information?

This smells like a fishing expedition.
 
Looks like Troutman illegally had that gun and might very well get charged for it.

Nope, it'll never happen.

Laws like that just don't apply to the elite. Sure, the exact wording may not support that view, but it doesn't matter. This issue will be delayed until something else takes the limelight, and then it'll be quietly disposed of. She will continue to carry a gun and associate with drug dealers and gang members.
 
Aldermen are an exception to Chicago's ban on handguns, and Adam said he believes Troutman's gun was lawfully owned and kept.

Adam said Troutman needed protection in the economically depressed area where she lives and serves. Her home has been broken into in the past,
I wonder how come she needs protection and the surrounding residents dont...:rolleyes:
 
"I am totally against it," Burnett said, adding, however, that he would not criticize his colleagues who have chosen to own guns. "It has an effect on people's emotions. They get confrontational when they have a gun."
What?? I wouldn't criticize my colleagues?? However, they get confrontational?? :barf:
 
Well they will need it when their constituents come looking for them.

A noble sentiment, but if it hasn't happened by now I wouldn't hold my breath. No matter how extreme the Democrat that runs, he or she carries Chicago. It doesn't seem to matter how dirty, how corrupt, how far to the left they are. They sweep Chicago and Crook County every election.

The only time in my life that they didn't carry Illinois is when Reagan won the state.

Slightly off topic, but I hope Daley's Olympic bid is unsuccessful. Not only that, I hope the commitee wrings every last nickel out of the city, then gives the Games to Outer Mongolia before they give them to Moscow on the Lake. I hope his legacy is driving the city into bankruptcy and he's remembered for that.
 
If he gets the olympic committee we are screwed. Their was talk that this is why Chicago PD was fudging crime numbers so that they could make themsleves look better.

Daley is frothing at the mouth for the olympics. So much money him and his friends could skim right off the top. So many contracts to deal to his buddies. Its just scary how corrupt. I do agree that it wont happen but like you said its a nice sentiment.
 
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