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I am looking for a vest to be mostly for SHTF with my AR-15 if I have to pick up and go but it could still see some general usage. I found this one online and its gotten good reviews wherever I look, but the guy at my local shop had reservations about the cross draw holster. What do you guys think? The vest I choose will have a lot to do with the sling I choose as well.

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Its the UTG Sport Tactical Vest.
http://leapers.com/pages/tactical_armor/vest-v568bt-c.html
 
First, UTG is primarily an airsoft company. So if S truly HTS, plan on that vest coming apart at the seems after a short time of heavy use. If you're going to get something that you truly think will be useful when you need it, and not just to look pretty, don't get an airsoft vest.

Second, I much prefer MOLLE vests. I use the Interceptor in the Army, and have my own non-armor MOLLE vest for personal practice. I prefer MOLLE because you can place holsters, pouches and all that stuff anywhere you want. You can even attach a hydration pouch to the back. To me, the customization options make MOLLE vastly superior to these pre assembled tactical vests.
 
cbrgator,
Define SHTF. That little acronym means different thing to different people. Once you can tell us exactly how you plan on using the vest, we can help you with selecting one. What's good for working mounted in a vehicle or in a static position might not be good for more dynamic operations.

I'm moving this thread to firearms accessories.

Jeff
 
I'm not really sure. Any event that would drive me from my home. Including, but not limited to...I will be living in Miami soon and it is home to a nuclear reactor and the occasional wildly destructive hurricane. I would think of being more on foot than in vehicles.


I also think that the back of this vest has a MOLLE system
 
It doesn't. It has a few rows of very large webbing. But it is not PALS/MOLLE webbing, which is required to attach the plethora of pouches and such one can get for just about everything. I have physically seen the vest in question, and it is in no way MOLLE compatible.
 
Do you really think a tactical load bearing vest is going to be appropriate for use outside of your home in the aftermath of a hurricane or other natural disaster? Don't you think that walking around looking like a soldier or SWAT wannabe might draw undue attention?

Rather then a vest, I think I'd look at some of the bail out bag options. Personally I'd want to be a little more discreet in that situation.

Jeff
 
OK. Well, answer seems pretty definitive. Anybody got any suggesions for something more fitting?
 
I don't know about that vest but I did get one from cheaper than dirt that had a simalar setup I used it one time fully loaded and thought to my self I'd be dead in thirty seconds if I used this thing in a tactical situation. It did teach me some things though.

pistol is secondary so you need more rifles rounds than pistol rounds 4 pistol mags are plenty (that includs the one in the pistol so you can take care of your pistol using a thigh rig)

Jeff White- I agree it isn't a good idea to run around outside in one of these but you can still use one inside
 
Well that depends. Do you plan on living through a Katrina like occurrence? Or are you preparing for total social order collapse for an indefinite period of time? The latter is highly unlikely, though in that situation, a vest would likely be useful. But if you just plan on making it a few days to a week through a natural disaster while fending off looters and thugs, than I doubt you need a vest. A vest will make you look like some sort of SWAT operator. To other survivors, they will be begging for help and looking for you to hand out your supplies to them. That can be bad. And if real police and soldiers see you, you may look like a threat walking around with your AR and battle rattle, while clearly(to them) not a member of an official response team. This could draw some hostile action. Your best bet would probably be something that looks inconspicuous, like a photo vest. Functional, yet without either the "I'm here to help" or the "I'm here to shoot you" look.
 
A khaki, beige or stone-colored travel, "safari" or photographers vest. It will serve much the same purpose and others, and not attract attention.
 
Agreed LAK, I have used them for years.

The small strong back pack? Hanging up, gear inside, water and emergency food. Black or tan in color, out the door.
 
That vest is overkill...

Thug #1 will distract you and Thug #2 will shoot you and they will divy up the loot that they just took from your dead body or you will get arrested, detained, interviewed or otherwise burning time you might not have.

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Camoflauge is the name of the game. You do not want to stand out. Surprise is worth a thousand AR-15's or AK's...


EDIT - I will say this... The gun community does seem to have had a noticable impact on "fashion" as there are more and more folks walking around in woodland camo, cargo pants, safari jackets, cargo shorts and "guide" vests... Maybe someday walking around in the OP vest would be (dare I say) par for the course.
 
If you are going that route get a molle lvl 3 vest.

http://www.bulletproofme.com/TACTICAL_Body_Armor.shtml#OTV

As others have said, something more low key is recommended though. I just have a large modern (inner frame with large waist strap) backpack that I rigged up to hold pistol and mags. I also managed to get a sling attached. With it I can carry 5-7 days of survival gear, 8+ AR mags, px4+ammo. I also have it rigged to disconnect quickly if I need to move a little more swiftly. I also have a similar setup for the wife with a smaller backpack and a .22 pistol and saiga-12.

A vest might be fine if you are staying in your house and expecting large raids of zombies (unlikely), but in a real event food and water will be more important than guns and ammo. It would have to be some real serious stuff (unlikely) for me to take my rifle/shotty with me anywhere. A backpack with food/water/pistol would probably be better than any tacticool options in a true shtf scenario.
 
If you have to wear the vest, get a ratty OD triple extra large overcoat to wear over it. Might help to keep the long gun concealed, too, make you look homeless, too.
 
In the situation described a tactical vest may not be the ticket, but in the interest of a quality one you might try the FMCO vests at

http://www.antipersonnel.net/fmco/001.html

I own one of these and they are very well put together, lots of weapons options too. They are a little more expensive but well worth it when weighed against the cheaper than dirt sort of vests, they can accept load bearing equipment too for all the food and water concerns.
 
If you want to get a tac vest, I would suggest getting a blackhawk at the least and get one with out the cross draw.
I have a blackhawk vest and it's very solid. I have no use for it anymore and I may be willing to sell it.
 
I agree that that tactical vest is probably overkill. Operators in the field here in Iraq carry less gear!

I can't speak to the quality of that vest, but if you MUST get a load bearing vest, I would look to the MOLLE vests that the military employs. Of course now we put most of our gear directly to our body armor, but the MOLLE VESTS are great because the are separate from the body armor and you can wear one without the other. They are well designed, rugged, and versatile. You can attach and remove accessories quickly and easily.

As far as the cross draw holster on the chest rig, it's very popular but I personally would get a drop down leg holster to take some of the weight off the chest and put it on the thigh. Your legs are the strongest muscles so distribute some weight there (handgun, a couple mags, knife, flashlight, etc).

The bigger question though which has been asked is WHAT type of scenario are you expecting? In most disaster scenarios you are better served by just locking down your house with supplies and waiting it out. But if you have to leave, you have to be realistic and consider that in a disaster scenario where you are on foot you are only going to be able to carry about 30 lbs for extended periods if you are in good physical shape. I'm in darn good shape and my load bearing limits for just purely marching is about 50-70 lbs for a few hours - and that's with me consuming massive amounts of water and energy foods, exerting all of my energy, and being physically useless in a fight afterwards and exhausted for a full day. If you don't have experience with this, fill up a camping backpack with some gallons of water or heavy objects (books may get wet from your sweat soaking through) and go for long walk. Take plenty of water and energy snack foods.

I made several lists of critical disaster situations that would cause me to go out on foot vs. driving and what I would pack in either case. For vehicle bugout, I have a 4Runner and included rifle, mags, extra gas tanks, and tools for off road because I expect roads to be clogged. I included ax, saw, shovel, bolt cutters (for fences), MREs, and several large water containers.

Start writing down critical needs such as high energy foods for a week (nuts, protein bars, trail mix, etc.), water (several gallons) and water purification system/tablets, small first aid kit, small shelter, clothes (clean socks and underwear), medical needs, small hygeine bag, small knife, and a handgun with a couple mags. You will quickly accumulate weight and soon start realizing that much of that tactical gear is useless weight. For most average people, I would say that 20-30 lbs is their load bearing limit and you can't fit much in a 20 lb load. I also have two dogs, and have dog "backpacks" saddles for them so they can carry their own food and some water. To this end, I would just suggest a well designed internal or external frame camping backpack and a concealed handgun so you are as low profile as possible. Also, comfortable water proof breathable hiking boots are a must. Break them in and then store them with your gear. The high profile tacticool ninja is probably going to be the target of police, national guard, and reservists trying to 'restore' order and also of the thugs and gangs - only they will shoot you long before you see them coming.
 
If you want to get a tac vest, the best feature it has when working as a team is the drag handle, A cheap vest may not support your weight and it may tear off while being dragged around or being tugged on.
If you actually want to use it in the real world, get a 511 tac vest.

My vest I have been dragged around, and it works good for a teammate to get your attention or to pull you back.
I have no use for my vest anymore, and it is very used but in good shape. ;)
 
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