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How much do you carry?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by WonderNine, Jan 24, 2004.

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  1. WonderNine

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    I think he's proving a point. I doubt his primary carry is 5 knives....
    Oh, and the bulge of the butt of his pistol is clearly visable in the pictures. And, he seems to have his pistol located a little far to the back.....
    Notably is the absence of a non-lethal (such as oc spray). Being armed to the hilt would be a lawyers field day in a self defensive situation.
    When I took my CCW class, our instructor had 4 firearms concealed on his person, two fullsize and two snubbies, dressed similiarly to that guy.
     
  3. WonderNine

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    He seems to be one of those types into holsters that don't offer much retention. I guess according to the thread he's a DEA agent. I can imagine him getting in a scuffle....stuff flying everywhere. :rolleyes:

    And I don't think I'd want a handcuff behind my tailbone....bad idea...
     
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    I carry ONE knife 100% of the time, and a handgun 80%. Let me explain.

    Wisconsin does not have a CCW permit. When I am at home, there is always a handgun within arms reach. (It's usually a 1911, a 4516 or my new Glock 27, purchased for that reason.)

    In Wisconsin, we can now carry at work, which my boss permits. While this town of Madison is a liberal-rich environment, I'm lucky enough to work for a guy who teaches rifle-craft to kids for a hunter-safety program.

    My Glock sits empty in my car during transport, with one end of the gun-rug half unzipped and two magazines in my jacket or glove-box for easy access.

    The rest I leave up to 'condition yellow,' my usual attention state of mind.
     
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    I think carrying two guns is a good idea, but I just don't get the five knives thing. I guess if both of my guns and my knife break I'll have to use my ninja skills.

    And maybe catch bullets in my teeth like Bruce Leeroy. :scrutiny:
     
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    Who carries a cellphone and a pager? I'm sure there's a reason, but it eludes me.
    I agree, for his sake.
     
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    Just gonna take a stab at it, maybe his department uses pagers and since he's supposedly DEA they wouldn't want to page his personal cell phone. And his pager is probably for department use only? Just guessing here.

    Looks like he's got one of those slapsticks too....

    And several other unidentifiable items....
     
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    That is a major loadout. With a loadout like that you'd think the biggest danger would be forgetting where the thing you wanted was. :)

    Which is amusing now, but could be trouble if you are up the creek and need one of those items in a major hurry. Pare down a little and have a fighting blade on each side (fixed blades) concealed and a utility folder on the strong-side. Then move the back-up gun to the weak side.

    The other crap can go just about anywhere I guess. I suppose you need to get to handcuffs with your weak hand...

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    Let's see...
    Kershaw clipped to right front pocket.
    Little Leek for money clip in left front pocket.
    Case Butterbean in right front pocket to actually... use.
    SAK "Soldier" on keychain.
    Nope, only 4, not 5.

    Goofy?
    Off?

    Probably.

    Apparently, I do like knives :D
     
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    5 :D

    I think I even missed some from what you said...LoL
     

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    I have a close friend who carries 5 or 6 knives everyday. He got into that habbit while he was working in a knife shop. He says it makes it easier to sell knives if the customers can see him carrying those same knives.

    His usual inventory is:
    Benchmade folder in right pocket
    Al Mar folder in left pocket
    Microtech folder in pouch on belt
    Cold Steel Desperado in small of back
    Camillus boot knife on ankle
    Small lockback in any random pocket

    He's looking for someone to build a custom sheath system so that he can carry his kukri on his back.

    Oh, and he also packs a Sig in .40, and 4 spare mags. And usally an Asp in his back pocket.


    Whenever I start to feel guilty about carrying my third knife, all I have to do is look at him. My three blades look downright normal next to his loadout.
     
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    Well, aside from the cuffs and badge, I don't think he's carrying all that much more than any well prepared citizen. Let's see: gun, BUG, reloads for both. I don't count the folders for tactical use, so one fixed blade. A few impact weapons: kubotan, sap. I think that cylinder with the black strap is OC spray, so he has at least one non-lethal non-contact option. This all seems reasonable to me, why not?

    What's the problem?

    In fact, I can think of a few things he doesn't have. I wouldn't want to be without my multi-tool for one. I don't see a PDA either. As for his commo. gear, cellphone and pager is the bare minimum. I also carry a small VHF radio programmed to operate on our local Emergency Services Network. The radio is probably the single most used item that I carry followed by the multi-tool. I would also recommend a small first-aid/survival tin and fire making kit.
     
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    No problem at all! All the knives just stuck in my head. (No pun intended).

    I think it's hilarious that somebody would carry that many.

    What's wrong with one knife and a multi-tool or swiss army knife?

    Maybe they're good luck charms....

    Some of these guys are loaded out like Mad Max in Beyond Thunderdome....:D
     
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    The damned link doesn't work for me but I recognize the items. If it's who I think it is, that actually IS what the guy normally carries.

    He seems to be legitimate and fairly accomplished.

    I think that the pager is what is carried by the tactical team that he's on while the cell phone is general purpose.

    I have to agree, though, that it seems a bit much.
     
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    Seems if I wore that much stuff, it'd compromise mobility too much! I'd feel very well armed with the auto+mag, and a nice folder in the front pocket, weapon-wise.
     
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    That's kinda the way I feel about it. I don't like to carry stuff to the point that it gets in the way all the time.

    I carry alot, but I try to carry it so that it's out of the way, example: I use a horizontal mag pouch for spare mag carry and it's fully enclosed so I don't have to worry about retention. If I carry a fixed blade it's also in a horizontal sheath.
     
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    Good point... brain no work today....


    DakotaSig,

    I guess I'm kind of dense today, but are you being facetious or serious? A fire making kit? No offense intended, but your post has the potential to be quite funny...

    I suppose I travel light, but I've never felt the need to carry anything more than what I've carried for years: a pistol, spare mag, flashlight, folding knife and cellphone (all decent quality, of course).
    I've never felt deprived of any critical item.

    Old-but-tough Nokia, long-in-the-tooth Benchmade Stryker, Kahr K9
    and my-attempt-at-tactical Inova LED X5.

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    I'll have to remember that. Fill up an old Altoids can with some gauze and matches and carry it around in a knife pouch.....:D :D :D

    ROFL!

    Yes officer, I just escaped from the loony bin. Is Ronald Reagan still President?
     
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    Everyone's gear will reflect their own circumstances. In my case, I live in a relatively remote area. Cell coverage is very spotty, hence my reliance on VHF. Even my radio is not 100%.

    Last night it got down to -30F. Should you happen to get stranded, help is a long way off, if they even know you need help. Unprepared people die from exposure here each winter. When I was going to school in Fargo (ND's largest city) some people froze to death stuck in their car within the city limits. They were stuck about 6 blocks from my apartment! Given our conditions, some kind of gear to make fire is essential. It doesn't need to be very big. A decent kit will be about the size of the wallet in the picture.
     
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    I remember that. But from what I remember they weren't even wearing decent winter clothing? I'm in ND btw.

    A winter survival kit is something that should be in every car up here, but I'm not going to carry that stuff on my person all the time. Alot of times I don't even carry my cell phone. What did people do back in the 1980's? Oh yea, they didn't have them.

    My winter survival kit is a ski mask and gloves if I'm in town.
     
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    I guess I'd better stop complaining about the weather here in WNC.
     
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    The pictures posted on the other forum come from Self-Defense Forums... You can find the original thread here.

    The point of the original thread was to show how much can be concealed with just a shirt... SouthNarc is well respected by those who know him.

    I encourage everyone to read the original thread at SDF.

    ~Wesley
     
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    Holy cow! That's enough to set up his own urban Skunki-tacticallity kiosk in a mall for Chrisakes!

    Funny thing is, I look at all that stuff and wonder why he can't sneak one more mag for the 1911... :confused:
     
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    This guy seems a little "off," as I've worked with everybody from US Marshals Office / USCS down to local Sheriff's deparment, and I have yet to see anyone who carried that much stuff let alone felt they needed to. One particular USCS supervisor (now retired) with whom I've worked simply carried a S&W 659 in a shoulder holster w/ 4 spare mags and a sharp folding knife and this guy was heavily involved in the drug war against Pablo Escobar, back in the day.

    Interestingly, if this guy is DEA, I certainly don't recognize that badge as being DEA issue. Perhaps he's a "lone operator" who needs all that stuff. :rolleyes: Anyway, Federal law enforcement, much like state and local law enforcement typically don't work alone, nor even in pairs especially on things such as investigation of drug trafficking, etc. They work in TEAMS--large groups of people, often times a dozen or more.

    I've seen primary guns, backup guns, perhaps one fixed blade and one small folder for small chores, and of course shotguns and rifles in the trunks of cars until needed. Chances are this guy will never get the opportunity to use all that stuff. 'Nuff said.

    As for carrying a pager and a cell phone that is NOT at all uncommon. Most agencies issue pagers particularly to Detectives, Investigators, Special Agents and the like. Mobile phones are typically personally owned and paid for as the dept./agency does not have the funding. Strange, where is his two-way radio? Perhaps its back at his office.
     
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