How risky is carrying a 44 concealed in a prohibited workplace?

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I would like to start carrying a concealed .44 under my suit jacket in the office I work at, I just bought the gun, and even though there's rules against having guns at work, I ride the bus to & from work, 2 hours there and 2 hours back, I feel that I'm in riskier environment just going to and from work, plus if some crazed co-worker was just going to shoot up the place like you see on tv, I'd like to know I have my gun with me so I'd stand a chance as I have no faith in cops, as the saying goes, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

So my question to everyone is, if the gun is well concealed on my person so that it can't be seen, how much of a risk do you think I'd be taking to wear it to work daily?

I mean I don't want to get fired, or worse.

I also don't have plans on getting a car anytime soon.

So I really don't care at all that me carrying a gun to work would be against the law.

I just don't want to get caught.

Any tips or advice?

Anyone else here carry a gun on them while they work in a office setting even though their employer dosen't allow it???

I mean what are ways that people would even know I'm carrying if it's concealed and I don't tell anyone?

They have security where I work, but no metal detectors that I know of.

Is the rule of not being allowed to carry inside your place of business a common thing for gun owners with a concealed permit to ignore???

thanks
 
No offense intended, but the tone, and some of the questions/statements, combined with the 'I just got the 44' is going to come off (Since it's your first post) as if you are trolling for responses.

My recommendation:

If you are not an experienced shooter... to use something else (Atleast for now)

and to take some training classes so as to become familiar, not only with using, but also the legal issues behind CCW.

Good luck.
 
i'm not trolling, i'm new to guns and it's just a honest question & concern. no offense was meant.
 
hmmm your first post is kinda suspicious.....:scrutiny:

So I really don't care at all that me carrying a gun to work would be against the law.
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no one on this forum will advocate you breaking the law with a firearm, and i foresee the mods locking this thread with a quickness.
 
Well, I'll put it this way. IF you work for me and I (or the company) say "don't do "this", whatever "this" is you understand, and you do it anyway...

I'd fire you. You can be replaced, I'm sure.

Now you might get away with it if I don't find out about it. But sooner or later, the odds are that I will.

Are you willing to take that chance? If so, carry away.
 
So I really don't care at all that <stuff> would be against the law.

I just don't want to get caught.
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If I found out you felt like that I'd seriously reconsider employment of you in the first place. 8)

As much as we don't like the law at times doesn't mean we ought to break it, simply because *feel* like we should. Because if someone else breaks the law guess what? We no longer have the moral high ground.

So not to go any further on this. If you know it's against the law ... just don't do it. Lobby against it. Vote. Do what you have to, to change the law. But don't become a criminal.
 
Well maybe I misworded it by saying "against the law", I think it's just against my companies policy. although i could be wrong? I live in Austin, TX.

I'm just trying to be well informed so I can weigh some things and make a educated decision.

found this thread to be interesting as well

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-131328.html

the one guys comment where he says well if it's concealed no one will ever know unless you pull it out, and if you pull it out that means your life must be in danger, and in that case losing your job would be better than losing your life.

of course actually ever really needing a gun in a office is probably like one in a billion odds, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
A few points that you have raised.
Against company policy - discuss the issue with your boss first include your plans to train. Maybe when you are trained he will consider a change in the rules.

"the one guys comment where he says well if it's concealed no one will ever know unless you pull it out, and if you pull it out that means your life must be in danger, and in that case losing your job would be better than losing your life."
Yes true enough, but if you are found out before tha you are gone and maybe even afterward.

If you are going to carry in spite of the rules of your employer - Don't

Now a good plan maybe getting a a small gun safe, install it in your desk at work and keep it locked away during work and carry it to and from. The big issue is of course if your employer buys off on the ideal.
 
No one advocate breaking the law, your post will be shut down, and why you are wrong will be detailed.

As for company policy, it's up to you to decide what your pay check is worth.
 
So I really don't care at all that me carrying a gun to work would be against the law.
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YOU may not care, but WE do. If you know it's illegal, don't do it. Or, don't come here looking for people to tell you that it's ok. If you feel that breaking the law and carrying is the best course of action, I wish you luck - we're not in the business of thumbing our nose at the law.
 
brutini said:
I would like to start carrying a concealed .44 under my suit jacket in the office I work at, I just bought the gun, and even though there's rules against having guns at work, I ride the bus to & from work, 2 hours there and 2 hours back, I feel that I'm in riskier environment just going to and from work, plus if some crazed co-worker was just going to shoot up the place like you see on tv, I'd like to know I have my gun with me so I'd stand a chance as I have no faith in cops, as the saying goes, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

So my question to everyone is, if the gun is well concealed on my person so that it can't be seen, how much of a risk do you think I'd be taking to wear it to work daily?

I mean I don't want to get fired, or worse.

I also don't have plans on getting a car anytime soon.

So I really don't care at all that me carrying a gun to work would be against the law.

I just don't want to get caught.

Any tips or advice?

Anyone else here carry a gun on them while they work in a office setting even though their employer dosen't allow it???

I mean what are ways that people would even know I'm carrying if it's concealed and I don't tell anyone?

They have security where I work, but no metal detectors that I know of.

Is the rule of not being allowed to carry inside your place of business a common thing for gun owners with a concealed permit to ignore???

thanks
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If you are truly concerned with your personal security, you must make changes to your lifestyle to reduce and control the risk. Whether one agrees with company policy about firearms at work, one agrees to follow policy as a condition of employment. Disregarding that policy can result in not only loss of the job, but possible fines and jail time as well.

One cannot simply strap on a new handgun without accepting the responsibility that goes with it. It's your responsibility to secure the handgun before entering company property. If that means you must forego public transportation and get a personal vehicle that will let you lock up & secure your weapon before going to work, that's what you must do. A big part of self-defense is knowing how to avoid trouble. Anything less is unethical
 
Brutini,

A few questions...

1.) Do you presently have a concealed carry permit?
2.) Do you have your own private work area/office?
3.) How understanding/sympathetic do you think your fellow employees will feel about you being armed in the workplace? Do they share the same point of view regarding the need to be armed?

I think it boils down to like you say, "billion to one vs. your future job prospects.

kerf
 
Very well.

i'm not trolling, i'm new to guns and it's just a honest question & concern. no offense was meant.
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I will (For the purposes of this post) take this at face value.
-Assume that you are NOT advocating breaking the law
-And have a valid CCW.
-And are a new shooter.

As a new shooter I recommend you spend about $200- $250 and buy a .22 pistol.

You will save enough money on ammo your NOT shooting through that "44" to pay for the gun in short order!

AND you will not develop any 'bad habits' as you are learning how to shoot.


FIRST OF ALL:
BE RESPONSIBLE!

DO NOT Carry a weapon until you can use it safely in defense of yourself and others.

Step one:
NRA Handgun Safety class.
(I do not believe you need to have your own gun for this)
http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

STEP 2:
Buy that .22 pistol and fire 1,000 rounds SAFELY, and using PROPER technique. (This is about $30 worth of ammo)

Step 3.
Come back here, tell us what you have learned, and where you want to go from there.

DO NOT CARRY A GUN until you have completed these steps.


JMHO.

ETA: In the meantime, Buy some pepperspray for the ride to work (If legal in your area, Disclaimer, Disclaimer, Bla, bla, bla)
 
NRA Handgun Safety class.
(I do not believe you need to have your own gun for this)
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Just a quick note about that point. Firearms are not always provided at NRA safety courses, and when the firearm is provided, there may be an additional "rental" fee. Check with the instructor to be certain.
 
Rules are rules.
You break the rules and get fired what is going to prevent you from whipping out your CCW special and blasting all your misfortunes away?

If your employer has a rule that says no CCW on company grounds I suggest you follow the policy.
Makes life easy for everybody.
 
While THR cannot control any viewpoints of its members, we can certainly deny the posting of suggestions about breaking any laws (foolish or not-foolish)--and we do.

As far as breaking the rules at one's workplace, that comes across as unwise. Losing a job cuts way down on disposable income for buying ammo.

Suggestion: Since Austintatious is not noted for incidents of "crime on bus", ensure that you're able to keep your job. If you're seriously worried about it, get another job.
 
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