How times have changed...

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I bought a 181-series Ruger Mini-14 in 1979 for $179. I see similar rifles offered on sites like Gun Broker today for aboud $500 to $600 (I ignore listings that price used Mini-14s more than new ones). My HP-12C tells me that's appreciation of around 2.75% per year which seems rather modest - particularly given the Obama panic.

When the flood of under-$100 SKS rifles came in, I looked long and hard at them. What held me back was that I reload everything I shoot and while steel-case ammunition was cheap, brass-cased 7.62x39 was not and once-fired cases were difficult to find and expensive when I did. I decided to skip it and concentrate on optimizing the load for my Mini-14. I'm glad I did since the SKS/AK didn't take off in this country like people seemed to think it would and today my sons' 16 inch ARs shoot the loads I optimized for my 18 inch Mini-14 just fine.
I also reload every thing I shoot. But when I bought my. SKS in 1990 I also bought a tin of 1440 Chinese rounds for $99. At that price I don't care about reloading.
 
I also reload every thing I shoot. But when I bought my. SKS in 1990 I also bought a tin of 1440 Chinese rounds for $99. At that price I don't care about reloading.

I reload for everything as well....when you get into the more "odd duck" flavors of guns you really need to if you want to shoot them at all or shoot them for what a cheap ____ like me is willing to spend.

You are not going to find 7.7 Jap at the local wallmart. But after you have brass the boolet is nothing special....heck nothing past the brass is special for 99% of this stuff....I think Carcano is really the only thing that bullets get spendy quick.

Plus it is fun....you can taylor make it to your specific gun. Currently I am working up loads for one carcano....once I find what it likes I will move on to the other and start over again.....this is part of the fun for me....seeing just how well I can make that old gun shoot.
 
$300 for a beater today... $50 for the same beater 30 years ago.

What's the difference? You weren't getting paid $40/hour back then either.
 
$300 for a beater today... $50 for the same beater 30 years ago.

What's the difference? You weren't getting paid $40/hour back then either.

You are correct....however if you look that $50 went a great deal farther then.

I just read an article on a pilot that bought a Rolex in 1966 (iirc) vietnam.....he hid it from his wife because he did not want her to know it cost $150.....that $150 is equal to $2500 today.....that is still quite a way from buying a Rolex sub....so your $ does not have the same buying power today as it had back then.
 
You are correct....however if you look that $50 went a great deal farther then.

I just read an article on a pilot that bought a Rolex in 1966 (iirc) vietnam.....he hid it from his wife because he did not want her to know it cost $150.....that $150 is equal to $2500 today.....that is still quite a way from buying a Rolex sub....so your $ does not have the same buying power today as it had back then.
Fair enough. :p
 
An old guy I worked with while in college used to take me hunting and shooting. He loved the Mosin rifles (especially the $50 price tag on them at the time).

At the time, I couldn't see myself paying even $50 for a rifle that kicks like a mule and has all the ergonomics of a rough-hewn 4x4. Is there even a Russian word for ergonomics?
 
Scarcity of SKSs and Mosins is largely driven by Obama era import restrictions. If Pres. Trump undoes those restrictions, just watch the prices fall. I would guess that such a move is highly likely.

They won't fall to the 1990's level. Ever.

Both the dollar is worth much less, and the cost of living in what used to be the "Eastern Block" had risen sharply.

I just don't see a $90 SKS - or even a $180 SKS - ever coming back.

But a $700 Romanian AK that looks like it was put together by a one-handed blind drunk is a bit extreme.

Is there even a Russian word for ergonomics?

Yes. "Imports".

Although the situation has been changing for a while now.
 
I was looking at used rifles for sale at J&G Sales today, and to my amazement, they have a Chinese T53 Mosin Nagant, in their words "Very Good Condition", which means not bottom of the barrel, but close. But what made me look twice, then once more, was the price. $460.00!!!:what: How things have changed, prices on anything and everything surplus firearm has skyrocketed!

When I bought my T53 (date 1955) it was for $139.00 about four years ago. Its my go to deer rifle, and I couldn't be happier. :) Makes me glad I bought mine when I did, but boy, those prices sure are high now a days.

I know, its supply and demand, but I still remember how people would talk down on the Chinese SKS and the T53's, and look at them now, going more for them than a brand new rifle. Ok, I'm done ranting...

Yep, sho nuff:



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hps
 
They won't fall to the 1990's level. Ever.

Both the dollar is worth much less, and the cost of living in what used to be the "Eastern Block" had risen sharply.

I just don't see a $90 SKS - or even a $180 SKS - ever coming back.
It could be back tomorrow if we wanted to allow the Chinese guns back in. Right now new SKS are about $200 in Canada. As a matter of fact Cabelas ran a Christmas special on them last year (as in November 2016) for $139. Right now Russian guns are about $220. Folks in Canada still buy bunches of them. There are no silly rules on aftermarket alterations or parts though the magazine is pinned to 5 rounds. There is plenty of cheap Chinese ammo too. Just it's illegal to import any of the guns or ammo to the states.
 
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It is sad our own leaders would be so willing to cause the price of guns and or ammo to be inflated by their actions with access to the knowledge will cause it.
Why would you not want to collect the import fees and taxes,sales taxes,and let the economy grow due to folks having more to spend whether it's on more guns, ammo and other goods.
Back to the O.P.
Those were good old days and I personally helped the economy as I shot all of the cheap ammo up years ago.
Have no SKS anymore and probably would pick one up next time I went to the gun show, or shop if the rack was lined up like those days gone by with cheap SKS and AK's and I certainly would have to have a case of cheap ammo too.
I would like to help the economy myself.
I'm currently in the process of collecting the expensive 7.62 x 39 brass to reload. These days it is more expensive than the cheap ammo, that hasn't changed. These days of $219 a case ammo will probably be discussed a few years from now.
 
It could be back tomorrow if we wanted to allow the Chinese guns back in. Right now new SKS are about $200 in Canada. As a matter of fact Cabelas ran a Christmas special on them last year (as in November 2016) for $139. Right now Russian guns are about $220. Folks in Canada still buy bunches of them. There are no silly rules on aftermarket alterations or parts though the magazine is pinned to 5 rounds. There is plenty of cheap Chinese ammo too. Just it's illegal to import any of the guns or ammo to the states.

I would love to see it....really, but I highly doubt it.
 
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