hey everyone i was just wondering how the process of buying a gun from a member goes. Say he and I agree to the deal.. how do i pay him? How do i know i will get the gun? What do i have to show if anything like ID papers? im new to this and i have no idea i just dont want to get ripped off because ive never done this. If anyone can help me out thanks alot!
HOW TO BUY OFF OF FELLOW MEMBERS
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El Tejon
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I can be bought off with sushi and hot redheads.
Have your people contact his people (have his FFL send it to your FFL). Money order via snail mail and you are all set.
Have your people contact his people (have his FFL send it to your FFL). Money order via snail mail and you are all set.
Here's some tips:
Make sure you know what you are buying. Ask whatever questions you may have before you send payment. Be specific in your questions. Make sure you understand if there is any sort of warranty or return policy if you aren't happy. Make sure you know how much shipping will be.
Find a local FFL dealer to accept the transfer for you. Anything out of state can only be shipped to a FFL holder. Ask around ahead of time and find out what the dealer will charge to accept a firearm and do a transfer for you.
When you find the gun you want, have your dealer send a signed copy of his FFL directly the person shipping the gun. The might be the seller or the seller might have a dealer ship the gun. Find out where to send the FFL and have it sent out.
Send your payment via certified funds. Most buyers want payment before shipping the firearm. Yeah, you're taking a risk, but one of the parties has to take a risk and it's usually the buyer who has to do so. Most people won't ship a gun until they have cash in hand.
When the firearm arrives, the FFL dealer will transfer it to you. He'll have to do a NICS check and fill out a ATF 4473. If you have paid the seller directly, he shouldn't charge you sales tax on the price of the gun. There may also be requirements specific to your state that you will have to comply with (permits, waiting periods, etc). The dealer will also charge you a transfer fee for his services.
Make sure you know what you are buying. Ask whatever questions you may have before you send payment. Be specific in your questions. Make sure you understand if there is any sort of warranty or return policy if you aren't happy. Make sure you know how much shipping will be.
Find a local FFL dealer to accept the transfer for you. Anything out of state can only be shipped to a FFL holder. Ask around ahead of time and find out what the dealer will charge to accept a firearm and do a transfer for you.
When you find the gun you want, have your dealer send a signed copy of his FFL directly the person shipping the gun. The might be the seller or the seller might have a dealer ship the gun. Find out where to send the FFL and have it sent out.
Send your payment via certified funds. Most buyers want payment before shipping the firearm. Yeah, you're taking a risk, but one of the parties has to take a risk and it's usually the buyer who has to do so. Most people won't ship a gun until they have cash in hand.
When the firearm arrives, the FFL dealer will transfer it to you. He'll have to do a NICS check and fill out a ATF 4473. If you have paid the seller directly, he shouldn't charge you sales tax on the price of the gun. There may also be requirements specific to your state that you will have to comply with (permits, waiting periods, etc). The dealer will also charge you a transfer fee for his services.
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There are no guarantees. Probably should only buy from somebody with a high post count. Somebody whose been around for awhile. JMO.
Well I can be bought off easily, but the other posters probably have great advice.
Is this an out of state deal? If so and it a handgun, use the ffl. In state I would not worry. Best deal I ever made was cash in the parking lot of the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame.
Regards,
James
Is this an out of state deal? If so and it a handgun, use the ffl. In state I would not worry. Best deal I ever made was cash in the parking lot of the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame.
Regards,
James
Make darn sure you get pictures before you buy the firearm! Then negoiate an inspection period, ie three business days, a non-shooting inspection. Agree to terms of return, ie who pays the return shipping and FFL fees?
1 All interstate transfers of firearms need to shipped to a FFL holder!
1a Some receiving FFL holders will not accept a firearm from a non-ffl holder ie a seller, as that is their choice in doing business.
1b You need to find a local ffl holder to receive the firearm, look on Gunbroker or Shotgun News web sites for lists of FFL holders that will do transfers for a reasonable fee.
1c Send by mail or Fax a copy of receiving FFL to the seller or their FFL holder so they know where to ship the gun.
1d Make sure you get a tracking number so that you know when your three day inspection starts. Make darn sure you are there to look at the gun at the receiving dealer with in three business days. Not that he can send it back to the seller, at this point. But, you will have to take delivery of the gun, and then send it back to his receiving FFL if he is not a FFL holder.
2 Arranging payment for the firearm well here is where you have to take a leap of faith. Some will say use USPS money order, in theory mail fraud occurs if the seller absconds with money. You can stop payment on Money Orders. A cashier's check works too, some will take your personal check and hold for clearance for 10 business days.
3 Get a bill of sale laid out and emailed to you from the seller, with a copy enclosed with the gun. Spell out all the particulars! The sellers name, address, phone #. The shipping method and tracking # vs deliver confirmation #. The shipping FFL information if needed. What you are getting IE
1 Rem 700 VS 223 SNXXXXX with Leupold 2 pc PRW bases, PRW rings, along with orginal factory paper work.
2 RCBS Standard Die Set PN#XXXXX
3 200 pcs of Lapua brass in MTM case guards
1 All interstate transfers of firearms need to shipped to a FFL holder!
1a Some receiving FFL holders will not accept a firearm from a non-ffl holder ie a seller, as that is their choice in doing business.
1b You need to find a local ffl holder to receive the firearm, look on Gunbroker or Shotgun News web sites for lists of FFL holders that will do transfers for a reasonable fee.
1c Send by mail or Fax a copy of receiving FFL to the seller or their FFL holder so they know where to ship the gun.
1d Make sure you get a tracking number so that you know when your three day inspection starts. Make darn sure you are there to look at the gun at the receiving dealer with in three business days. Not that he can send it back to the seller, at this point. But, you will have to take delivery of the gun, and then send it back to his receiving FFL if he is not a FFL holder.
2 Arranging payment for the firearm well here is where you have to take a leap of faith. Some will say use USPS money order, in theory mail fraud occurs if the seller absconds with money. You can stop payment on Money Orders. A cashier's check works too, some will take your personal check and hold for clearance for 10 business days.
3 Get a bill of sale laid out and emailed to you from the seller, with a copy enclosed with the gun. Spell out all the particulars! The sellers name, address, phone #. The shipping method and tracking # vs deliver confirmation #. The shipping FFL information if needed. What you are getting IE
1 Rem 700 VS 223 SNXXXXX with Leupold 2 pc PRW bases, PRW rings, along with orginal factory paper work.
2 RCBS Standard Die Set PN#XXXXX
3 200 pcs of Lapua brass in MTM case guards
Beren
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Hmm, somehow that was my first thought, too.
Henry Bowman
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Despite our high billing rates, lawyers generally can be bought off cheaply.
Justin
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If anyone asks you to engage in a transaction that is the least bit illegal, let a staff member know immediately.
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