Huge doe killed in AL

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So I heard about this "freak of nature" that was shot in AL, well found the news report...

If you know about Alabama whitetails, then you know this is far from the norm. One report said it was around 290-295lbs?

One of the things I find interesting is he said he was gone to eat the meat, but I sure wouldn't. The meat has to be ruined, guts still in it with the temps hoovering around 78 the last two or three afternoons wouldn't take it long to spoil.
 
The level of some peoples stupidity amazes me. :scrutiny:

For one thing it has been dead a while and is bloated, making it look much heavier than it is.

This is no white tail, and I don't think elk either.

Looks like a red deer hind. Freak of nature! Please!
 
I would bet it is a red deer that escaped from some high fence place. Not a freak of nature.
 
I would bet it is a red deer that escaped from some high fence place. Not a freak of nature.
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Thats kinda what I am thinking, there are a few high fences around the area that have animals that are not native to here.

Got to buff the news story up with "freak of nature" :rolleyes:
 
i swear that thing looks like a cow elk mixed with a whitetail to me. high ear ridges, long muzzle of elk with the legs and coloring of a whitetail doe. or its the worlds first diabetic deer.... :)
 
The samples sent to Auburn and Mississippi State Universities will answer all questions about this deer. I'm sure even then some experts will argue about the findings.
 
Yea maybe he should think about field dressing it and otherwise taking care of it rather than call the tv stations.
 
It looks like an elk, especially the arse but the coloration is wrong. I think red deer are similar to elk no? My guess would be that. Not a whitetail, that's for sure!

And dude, it would be way easier to load in the truck if you take the guts out.
 
Just for comparison,I googled "red deer in Alabama" and got this picture posted by Alabama Bow Mafia. <http://www.flickr.com/photos/albowmafia/4305154018/> Apparently not the same animal as Mr.Sartain killed possibly a cross with a whitetail. Also there are several breeders of whitetail,red deer and elk in the Clanton,Al. area very close to Tuscaloosa.
 
He says the meat will last him the year. I don't know that I would want to eat the meat after the doe had time to bloat and rigor to set in, which means it was sitting out for at least 2-3 hours. Check AL temps, the temps were warning that what is proper for storing meat.

Gotta love (not) the hunter's explanation of the shooting. He didn't have any idea what it was, but he shot it.

As for being a "freak of nature," that isn't the case at all. If it is a very large whitetail, then likely it is a rare variant. Such variants come up time to time and if the variation is adaptive, the hopefully it passes to the next generation. It may be a cross between species, but this also happens in nature and isn't freakish either.

It may be big, but not a freak.
 
Take a look at it's backside, it ain't no whitetail! You can see it at the end of the video when they drag it and when he's posing with it at the end. Its tail is too small, much like an elk's tail although it isn't an elk either.

Also he claimed it took 4 guys initially to put it into the truck, but two guys were dragging it...I could get that into the truck with another dude for sure. Being bloated makes it look bigger, have fun eating that one sir.
 
Too small to be an elk, but just right for a red deer
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It's actually a bit small for a Hind as well. I am thinking that somehow a white tail and a Red Deer got mixed somewhere.

I think red deer are similar to elk no
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Red Deer are actually the European version of Elk. You want one of the best steaks you will ever eat (Next to Fallow deer of course) Get a steak that is off of an Elk/Red Deer hybrid. Preferably a hind/cow. Newfoundland has them roaming around and man are they some good eating!
 
Of course he shot it. How else was he going to find out what it was? It's called "ground checking".
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When I was a stupid teenager we called it "hunting movement". Moved in a field, probably got shot. Not very bright to shoot something you can't identify.

But it was clearly a deer so no harm done really. Friend of mine has a place in Arkansas next to a game ranch. A red deer escaped there and got onto his place, about the same size.
 
He says the meat will last him the year.
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Not at my house. We'd need more than double that to get us through. A 300lb. animal might only yield what... 80lbs. of meat? That's piddly. My house would be through that well before summer.

As far as the quality of meat, once rigor mortis sets in, that natural process won't hurt the meat. Not gutting the gal, will do more harm. If the bacteria that is creating all that gas, can get into the chest cavity through a wound channel, it will begin to "digest" her muscle tissue. But rigor is no problem. After all, it sets in within minutes, up to an hour, maybe two, after death. It is best to completely process the animal before or after rigor, but not during. The tissue will relax after several hours of rigor and will be fine and good to work. Slaughter houses have the capability to do it all before rigor, but hunters aren't always so equipped.

I know we all have our own processing beliefs that we hold onto like a religion, I had a thread years ago with some of the most extreme responses I ever could have imagined, regarding how & when we like to do the deed. I prefer to do as much as possible before rigor, then let it hang and/or cool for a day, or several days, until I get back to it.

Two mule deer bucks are in the cooler right now. Killed last Saturday. Will be completely processed out this Saturday. One week from death to freezer. All's well that ends well.

YMMV
 
I took a small buck in Perry County Alabama in 2008. The club I was in did not allow field dressing in the woods. By the time I located the buck and drug it to the truck and loaded it up,an hour had passed. Once loaded on the truck,I decided to take it home to do the processing,a 2 hour drive(112 miles). All told about four hours had elapsed between the shot and the gutting process. The meat was excellent.Actually it was some of the best venison I have ever eaten. It was not bloated and the temperatures were in the 60s that day. YMMV
 
Clearly a BS situation...

Video shows 2 men putting it into the Truck, written it mentions 4-5 people to get it into the Ranger:confused:

I would have thought gutting it earlier, rather than later might have been best...:confused:
 
I've never had a carcass bloat at all, because like I said, I get to work right away. I have no idea how long it takes to bloat to this degree, but I sort of get the feeling that he had images of a TV interview, the moment he saw the red deer cow walk out into sight. Maybe he just didn't want to 'reduce' the animal's size, because he wanted it on TV?
 
I agree CoRoMo. I think he most likely field dresses much earlier but for the reasons you stated didn't in this case. This is only my opinion and may or may not be the case.
 
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