Hunter education programs halted by Biden

[Old Hobo]

The Biden administration has banned hunting and archery programs in all public schools. Any shooters out there who are providing training or mentoring in these programs, take note.

If schools continue such programs, then they stand to lose federal dollars for athletic programs.

I should be shocked, yet I am not. As we all know, among the ultimate wishes of the left are to ban hunting and the personal possession of firearms.

"Biden admin confirms it's withholding key funds for schools with hunting courses, GOP call it 'shameful' "

Biden admin confirms it's withholding key funds for schools with hunting courses, GOP call it 'shameful'

The Biden administration confirmed that its interpretation of a recent law precludes federal funding for school hunting and archery courses nationwide.

www.foxnews.com

"Biden administration says it is interpreting recently-passed law 'as written by Congress' to block funding

"The Biden administration confirmed to Fox News Digital that it is withholding critical funds for elementary and secondary schools nationwide with hunting or archery programs in their curriculum.

" 'This prohibition applies to all ESEA funds,' a Department of Education spokesperson told Fox News Digital. 'The prohibition went into effect immediately on June 25, 2022 and applies to all existing and future awards under all ESEA programs, including [21st Century Community Learning Centers]. The Department is administering the bipartisan law as written by Congress.'

"Overall, the administration's decision to withhold funds for such programs may impact thousands of schools and millions of American students.

"According to the International Hunter Education Association, hunter education courses train and certify more than 500,000 students annually. Such courses are a reason hunting related injury rates have declined for years while populations of deer, wild turkey, elk, geese and other species of game have increased exponentially for years.

"The legislation included an amendment to an ESEA subsection listing prohibited uses for federal school funding. That amendment prohibits ESEA funds from helping provide any person with a dangerous weapon or to provide 'training in the use of a dangerous weapon.' "
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[jmr40]

I've been an instructor since 1986, but have been inactive for years. The course has never been taught in schools here. The DNR has been teaching the classes with the help of volunteers like myself. It became basically an on-line course a long time ago. I can't recall the last in-person class I heard of. This was long before Covid.

The numbers are way down too. I used to help with 6 or 7 classes per year with 30-100 students per class. Almost no one taking the class anymore.

 

[jar]

Plus the law was written by Congress. Any actions taken are simply the Executive Brach following the Rule of Law as set by the Legislative Branch.

 

[Kingcreek]

Yeah, we really shouldn’t be introducing young people to things like safety and responsibility.

 

[shuvelrider]

Yet many of these ranting Democrats keep saying they grew up with hunting and don't want to infringe on that sport.

 

[gwpercle]

Using bows and arrows to commit crimes "might" become epidemic ...
Joe needs to "Nip It In The Bud " right now before this gets all out of control !
Shooting arrows at a target is such a horrible thing to teach a young person .
Gary

 

[Old Hobo]

Plus the law was written by Congress. Any actions taken are simply the Executive Brach following the Rule of Law as set by the Legislative Branch.

Had this administration a half-ounce of respect for the U.S. Constitution, they would have vetoed this anti-Second Amendment bill.

I say "they" because it is Biden's puppet-masters who are running the White House.

When I was in High School, we had rifle team. It was funded by the Army, via the Jr. ROTC program. Our leader/educator/man-in-charge was a retired Army Battalion Sgt. Major (Combat & Intel; wounded Korea, but recovered and did 3 tours in Vietnam). Need I say that there were strict rules?!

My eldest son was on a high school rifle team -- except that they no longer used .22 LR rifles; they used air rifles. I read that this is still the case.

This nation has gone weak. Even in the military, we are witnessing "woke" policies. Our enemies are laughing at us. Just a few decades back, when you reached 15 or 16, you were supposed to act like an adult. I sure know that that was what was expected of me by my family and the outside world. In today's "USSA", "adults" are actually still in their adolescence on past age 40. Sad. Dangerous. Weakness = War = Enslavement
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[reddog81]

It's almost like all the cries for responsible & safe gun ownership by the gun-control crowd might not be true and might actually be just an excuse to implement more and more and more regulation

 

[Ignition Override]

Total asparagus-head, not able to comprehend anything for more than ten seconds. Spargelkopf. Can't remember from which direction he approached the microphone.

Nobody rational would try to inhibit safety education, whether for guns, cars, personal medical advice, whether to hike in the Grand Canyon with 110* F. heat.

Totally arrogant + Ignorant Dufus probably has a leash strapped to his wrist when no cameras are around, like a small child in a zoo.

 

[jmr40]

To add more detail to my 1st post. Misleading stories in the media are common on both sides of the aisle. The Pittman-Robertson act was signed in 1937. Every single firearm, box of ammo, and piece of hunting gear has had an 11% tax placed on it to fund wildlife conservation and hunter education since 1937. The Pittman-Robertson act is still in place and funds for hunter education have not been halted.

In very rare cases some schools offered these classes as part of the physical education curriculum. Withholding funds for hunter education from public schools is a huge nothing burger. The amount funded in the past was near zero anyway. In fact, I've never seen a dime allocated for it from any source other than the Pittman-Robertson act. Even when taught in schools the DNR provided all of the supplies, supervised the classes and provided the certificates. If anyone wants to take a hunter education class, it is still very easy to do.

 

[Old Hobo]

Using bows and arrows to commit crimes "might" become epidemic ...
Joe needs to "Nip It In The Bud " right now before this gets all out of control !
Shooting arrows at a target is such a horrible thing to teach a young person .
Gary

"Liquor store held up by longbowmen!"

Y'know, one reason for the regime occupying the White House and the deep state to want to disarm citizens is so that the common folk will be unable to defend themselves against rioters & looters -- oh, excuse me, "protesters". On the surface, this premise sounds far-fetched; however, we've entered into the rapid decline of the former U.S.A. and things are going strange. Witness major cities not requiring bail for property crimes, even violent crimes that are not deemed felonies (ex. common assault)

The political left feeds off of conflict -- even violent conflict. "Don't worry, Big Brother will protect you!" "Higher taxes will be required to fight this war." "The government must be given more power due to the chaos we are seeing."

Fungi feed off of dead trees and rotting organic material.

Armed citizens may just decide to defend themselves which would shut down the looting form of redistribution of wealth. Too, how can a centralized federal government easily enforce national martial law, if everyone is armed? Yet another factor is that there are tens of millions of retired police and military. If they are still armed in the civilian realm, they could pose a threat to an unConstitutional government. Note how big government always holds the threat of "bringing out the National Guard" -- what if these guardsmen just said, "No."; or worse, turned on the invalid government.

Vladimir Lenin when starting the communist revolution said that any man who wouldn't use his rifle to fight the Czarist forces deserved death. Then, after Lenin came into power, he said, "You must act with all energy. Mass searches. Execution for concealing arms.”

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[jar]

Congress passed the laws. And a bypartisan Congress passed the laws. Talk of puppet masters is simply silly as long as Citizens United is not repealed.

You have the government you wanted.

Sorry but it's what you created.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Better that Bambi starve to death than be responsibly culled by a cisgendered, supremacist, toxic male who lives in a backwards flyover state, drives a carbon-spewing truck and lights his home with (gasp!) incandescent bulbs......

 

[D.B. Cooper]

To add more detail to my 1st post. Misleading stories in the media are common on both sides of the aisle. The Pittman-Robertson act was signed in 1937. Every single firearm, box of ammo, and piece of hunting gear has had an 11% tax placed on it to fund wildlife conservation and hunter education since 1937. The Pittman-Robertson act is still in place and funds for hunter education have not been halted.

In very rare cases some schools offered these classes as part of the physical education curriculum. Withholding funds for hunter education from public schools is a huge nothing burger. The amount funded in the past was near zero anyway. In fact, I've never seen a dime allocated for it from any source other than the Pittman-Robertson act. Even when taught in schools the DNR provided all of the supplies, supervised the classes and provided the certificates. If anyone wants to take a hunter education class, it is still very easy to do.

Hark! The voice of reason. At one time, in the district in which we live, there was one teacher, in one middle school teaching one Hunter Ed class as a P.E. elective. I'm not sure if it counted as one of his paid, contractual courses or if it was on his planning period. I don't think he ever had very many students in his class, and, once he retired, that was the end of that. And, as you said, I think Fish and Game provided everything for him. As mentioned, Hunter Ed has become an online course with one day on which you show up, demonstrate proper firearms handling and basic marksmanship competency.

I wonder if...and I think this is where it will hurt more...schools with Rifle Marksmanship teams will have to disband their programs. Those programs get a veritable pittance of each school's sports funding (the vast, vast, VAST majority of it going to football and hockey), and schools will not want to jeopardize their football programs. Likewise, any schools that are doing NASP (National Archery in the Schools Program) in their P.E. curriculum. My son's middle school does a 2-week unit in P.E. with NASP equipment and materials; that's gone now.

The thing we should be more concerned about is that this somehow passed Congress. That's the bigger concern.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

silly as long as Citizens United is not repealed.

Repealed? When did Congress pass the “Citizens United” bill?
Please, sing the praises of Marx again for us.

 

[hso]

Plus the law was written by Congress. Any actions taken are simply the Executive Brach following the Rule of Law as set by the Legislative Branch.

Bingo!

If our supporters let this go through without catching it then they're who we should be howling at not recognizing that "training in use of dangerous weapon" would remove funding for all competitive shooting.

The legislation included an amendment to an ESEA subsection listing prohibited uses for federal school funding. That amendment prohibits ESEA funds from helping provide any person with a dangerous weapon or to provide "training in the use of a dangerous weapon."

 

[JDeere]

Yes we had a rifle range at school as well that the ROTC used for training. We also Had PU trucks in the parking lot with guns in the racks. We went hunting after class or to the sand pits to plink. Times have changed. As for as Hunters Ed goes young people today have no interest in hunting and if they do public land around here is in short supply and leases are expensive.

What is Citizens United? No I did not have a hand in what is being pushed today. Sorry but Biden is a puppet...

 

[jar]

Yes we had a rifle range at school as well that the ROTC used for training. We also Had PU trucks in the parking lot with guns in the racks. We went hunting after class or to the sand pits to plink. Times have changed. As for as Hunters Ed goes young people today have no interest in hunting and if they do public land around here is in short supply and leases are expensive.

What is Citizens United? No I did not have a hand in what is being pushed today. Sorry but Biden is a puppet...

That an adult in the US is unaware of Citizens United is simply pathetic.

It's good to be really really old.

 

[Speedo66]

He’s not talking about educating his son, right?

 

[JDeere]

That an adult in the US is unaware of Citizens United is simply pathetic.

It's good to be really really old.

I'm pretty old and pretty close to the same age you are. I know what your term means just wanted you to explain it. Later...

 

[Elkins45]

this is what happens when politicians don’t read the ills they pass. It’s a malicious interpretation of the intent of the statute. Enough pressure from Congress could get this reversed. Call your Representative and Senator if you really want to do something about it.

 

[Big_Al]

Dnr teaches the hunters safety classes here. I was surprised how fast the classes filled up. We just went thru the course with one of the grandsons.

 

[Old Dog]

Yet another example of how the Biden administration is systematically tearing down so many institutions, long engrained in our culture, while the general populace remains oblivious and ignorant of what the politicians are doing to our country.

 

[Old Hobo]

Congress passed the laws. And a bypartisan Congress passed the laws. Talk of puppet masters is simply silly as long as Citizens United is not repealed.

You have the government you wanted.

Sorry but it's what you created.

Old saying:

"The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do."
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[RetiredUSNChief]

I'm very tired. I should be in bed asleep now. I'm totally unprepared to google-fu this.

Exactly what congressional law are we talking about. Exactly what does the Biden Administration say about this. Exactly what funding are we talking about.

And most importantly, weekday media hyperbole was propagated and how fast of from reality is it.

I'll stop by later when I'm not a total zombie.