Hear me out. Ive been thinking bout breeding some hunting dogs, No not Walkers or Black N Tans, I was thinking some 1/4 Jack Russell 1/4 Jagdterrier and 1/2 Whippet, thinking it would be similar to a do all lurcher, it could hunt anything from rats to coyote. Yall think anyone would be interested in hunting with one?
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Those Jack Russells will surprise a lot of folks with the degree of 'hunt' they possess. Once knew a fellow that used several to hunt wild hogs on a mostly deer lease I shared a membership in. He ignored deer generally, but hunted pigs nearly year round with those terriers with remarkable success and used a .22 rifle exclusively, if you heard the racket those little dogs made it was shortly followed by rarely more than one shot.............lotta pork chops!
Even more surprisingly, the injury level sustained by those little dogs was nearly non existent compared to the damage those porkers would inflict on our walker deer dogs when they bayed one up! Saw more than one walker or pit bull have to have his guts shoved back into his intestinal cavity and sewn up with mono!.......Another old fellow that hunted on that property used his exclusively as squirrel dogs....worked well.
Super trainable & intelligent as all get out.........your idea'l work!~
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Even more surprisingly, the injury level sustained by those little dogs was nearly non existent compared to the damage those porkers would inflict on our walker deer dogs when they bayed one up! Saw more than one walker or pit bull have to have his guts shoved back into his intestinal cavity and sewn up with mono!.......Another old fellow that hunted on that property used his exclusively as squirrel dogs....worked well.
Super trainable & intelligent as all get out.........your idea'l work!~
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Jagdterriers are expensive and hard to find. The only reason i was thinking about using 1/4 jagd, is because i have a friend with a Male jagd. And she would probably let me borrow him for 20 mins XD. ive been thinking bout kicking out the Whippet in it. any ideas on breeding this hunting mutt?
Jack Russell's have Hella fight in em. Ive witnessed them running cattle, and pigs, alone. Ive seen them On a hog. And Ive squirrel hunted with them, this threads mostly about building the perfect mutt.
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I breed and run Jagd Terriers mostly for hogs, coons and the occasional bob cat. They are the ultimate do everything hunting terrier. One of my best males on top of being a fantastical hog and coon dog, and superlative blood tracker he also points, flushes and retrieves both upland and water fowl.
Mixing a Jagd with a JRT would be a horrible mistake. The only thing you'd gain is a bit more hyper a bit less nose and you'd be breeding down in size and strength. While JRH's are great dogs they simply can't match a Jagd's nose or his power. They're much smaller dogs. Jagd's also have as much prey drive as you can possibly put into a dog so really what is there to gain by mixing them?
JRT's have a bunch of fight in them. But if you've ever watched a Jagd get down to business on something it wants dead it would blow your mind. My 22 Lb males regularly kills male coons within several seconds of catching them. My females sire is a big strong Siberian bred male. His owner had to quit using him on bob cat because he would kill them if he caught them on the ground which he was getting good at doing. That makes pursuit season a bit sticky.
I've got a male right now who at 1.5 years old is 25 lbs and is as serious a bad a$$ as can be packed into a 25 lb dog. He'll gain another 2 to 3 lbs of muscle by the time he's 3 years old. All that and he's a total lush and lover around people he loves kids and cats but only inside the house outside they are as good as dead if he catches them.
Mixing a Jagd with a JRT would be a horrible mistake. The only thing you'd gain is a bit more hyper a bit less nose and you'd be breeding down in size and strength. While JRH's are great dogs they simply can't match a Jagd's nose or his power. They're much smaller dogs. Jagd's also have as much prey drive as you can possibly put into a dog so really what is there to gain by mixing them?
JRT's have a bunch of fight in them. But if you've ever watched a Jagd get down to business on something it wants dead it would blow your mind. My 22 Lb males regularly kills male coons within several seconds of catching them. My females sire is a big strong Siberian bred male. His owner had to quit using him on bob cat because he would kill them if he caught them on the ground which he was getting good at doing. That makes pursuit season a bit sticky.
I've got a male right now who at 1.5 years old is 25 lbs and is as serious a bad a$$ as can be packed into a 25 lb dog. He'll gain another 2 to 3 lbs of muscle by the time he's 3 years old. All that and he's a total lush and lover around people he loves kids and cats but only inside the house outside they are as good as dead if he catches them.
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Some Jagdterrier pics from over the years.
Kubi , RIP old friend.
Kubi
Kubi
Nitro at 6 months
Belle..
Belle
Baby killer dogs..
One of Belle's man pups.
The jagdterrier is a new breed it comes from mixing a Black and Tan hunting terrier with a fox terrier so it already has some JRT in it. The GHT (German Hunting Terrier) also known as the Jagdterrier is ALREADY the perfect mutt!
Kubi , RIP old friend.
Kubi
Kubi
Nitro at 6 months
Belle..
Belle
Baby killer dogs..
One of Belle's man pups.
The jagdterrier is a new breed it comes from mixing a Black and Tan hunting terrier with a fox terrier so it already has some JRT in it. The GHT (German Hunting Terrier) also known as the Jagdterrier is ALREADY the perfect mutt!
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what he said
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Get a hold of a "Full Cry" magazine. There was a Jagd breeder somewhere in your neighborhood. I sell my pups untrained for $400 USD. That seems to be about the going rate for quality Jagd pups. Of course there are two guys in my little town here one who runs JRT's on coon the other runs Powderdale Terriers for coon and other varmints. They are getting about the same or more for proven hunting blood lines with their pups.
You've got to be real careful buying JRT's from pet breeders. You want one form a hunting line not a show or pet line. Some of the JRT's out there are straight up retards as they've had any and all sense breed out of them by the pet puppy mill and show dog crowd.
You've got to be real careful buying JRT's from pet breeders. You want one form a hunting line not a show or pet line. Some of the JRT's out there are straight up retards as they've had any and all sense breed out of them by the pet puppy mill and show dog crowd.
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I've been thinking about lurchers too.
What I've read is that they were originally mostly collie crosses, so they got the brains from the shepherd and the speed from the sight hound.
I was considering a Belgian Malinois or Dutch Shepherd crossed with a sight hound and getting an awesome lurcher. Also maybe throw in some Catahoula...
What I've read is that they were originally mostly collie crosses, so they got the brains from the shepherd and the speed from the sight hound.
I was considering a Belgian Malinois or Dutch Shepherd crossed with a sight hound and getting an awesome lurcher. Also maybe throw in some Catahoula...
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H&H, wow, that is one cute pup. I think I just found my next dog. Small, strong, adventurous. I can't afford to feed 70# monsters anymore, but still want a dog that come with me in the woods. Although there's not much for them to hunt in Idaho. Maybe birds?
H&Hhunter, Those Jagdterriers or Tysk jaktterrier as they are called in Swedish are a great hunting dog. They are very popular here in Sweden for hunting boar and for under ground work. As you say they will hunt anything.
A good working pup here will set you back 8-10000 kr about 1200 dollars.
They were discribed once as, a hunting dog for hunters.
A picture of another black and tan. My kopov
A good working pup here will set you back 8-10000 kr about 1200 dollars.
They were discribed once as, a hunting dog for hunters.
A picture of another black and tan. My kopov
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I used to be very interested in long dogs and lurchers. Most of the gents I knew who were into game that bit back bred either 1/2 or 1/4 bulldog (pitbull or staford) dogs.
The dog you describe sounds a bit light generally for taking 'yotes.
What is your goal, producing a first X litter or getting dogs that breed to type?
At any rate I would heed the advice of using working stock and not show stock.
Hows about finding a small APBT bitch, around 30lbs. And a Parson Russell dog? id have a strong lil terrier, with prey drive like no other, and jaws to back it up. Sound good? And guys, The JRT's that a friend of mine breeds are Strictly for squirrel hunting. Theyre not even pure JRT, theyre all jacked up. JRT, PRT, Long haired, Short haired. Shoot not Show.
JRT X APBT? Ill call it "American Hunt Terrieir" instead of "German Hunt Terrier"
JRT X APBT? Ill call it "American Hunt Terrieir" instead of "German Hunt Terrier"
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