Hypothetical hd situation

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Um, there isn't a one size fits all
really, there is NO good answer

I could argue, on high moral ground, that if those down stairs ARE NOT your children their protection is solely upon them, except for those duties you feel the need to take upon yourself as duties of hospitality.

BTW ^^
wars have been started over those

Shadow... that's just wrong. Very, very wrong. Don't come knocking on my door asking for help when you and yours need it.

Oh, wait... please do come asking for help because I'm always packing and willing to defend anyone needing it.

Are you seriously stating that you'll hold up behind safe lines while other innocent women and children are slaughtered? Really?
 
Shadow... that's just wrong. Very, very wrong. Don't come knocking on my door asking for help when you and yours need it.

Oh, wait... please do come asking for help because I'm always packing and willing to defend anyone needing it.

Are you seriously stating that you'll hold up behind safe lines while other innocent women and children are slaughtered? Really?

IF they're not your family, then some people on here would indeed give the "just be a good witness" line and indeed stay behind safe lines while others are killed. It comes down to priorities and doing things that can impact those priorities.

Some people, especially those who have immediate families, sometimes feel that placing themselves in harms way to help an unrelated person could cause harm to their family. They don't want their wife to be a widow, or their children to grow up without a father. And the financial hardship placed on their family due to losing a breadwinner can be a big deal. In their eyes, it isn't just a "risk my life" issue. It's risking the long-term emotional, physical, and financial well-being of their family as well. And at that cost, the possibility of something happening to them just isn't worth the risk.

I don't feel the same way. I'm single, no kids, no girlfriend, a soldier and a public servant. Risking my life for others is just the way I think. I don't fault others in different situations for thinking differently. There is cowardice, and there is a weighing of the risk to all possible parties. I will condemn cowardice. But I will not condemn a man for weighing the future of his family against a stranger and choosing his family.
 
Sophie's Choice

Which kid to give up for extermination by Germans during WW2 - that was the choice but to Sophie.
Anybody see that movie?
 
Ragnar Danneskjold said:
IF they're not your family, then some people on here would indeed give the "just be a good witness" line and indeed stay behind safe lines while others are killed.

I am not trying to sound jaded but, to quote the spy with 9 lives, some people live and some people die. There is nothing to be done about it and taking it on yourself to save lives is the road to alcoholism or worse. One of the reasons it is philosophically important to believe in God is so that you do not have to feel guilty about the way destiny unfolds. In reality YOU don't save lives, you just do your job and sometimes that helps people and sometimes it doesn't help them as much as you would have wanted.

Cowardice is an interesting concept. The reason that we reward valor is because it is uncommon and the reason that we punish cowardice is because it is also uncommon. Most people are in between and usually a bit late to the party to have really done anything about anything.
 
All I can say is that I've gone outside to confront evil many times. It's true that I currently only have a sick old dog and dumb young cat to take care of now but I did the same when I was a father and husband. I'm still alive today.
 
This is why I believe in "stashing" my handguns about the house in locked and hidden positions.
 
Mike, did I ever say that was my position, rather I pointed out that there is

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it is in the end about YOU and your acceptance of risk and the dynamics of YOUR family.
Would you stop an adult with full competence from jumping off a bridge?
what if it's 10 feet
what if it's 100 feet
what if it's 250 feet

BTW, the navy teaches crew members of aircraft carriers how to escape the ship by jumping over board, want to guess which of the above is close to the flight deck hight?
 
This thread took a running leap from hypothetical to emotionally charged. It will all come down to what is happening/what you think is happening. Family contingency planning, proper equipment, and early detection whether by alarm or dog will go a long way to bettering your family's chances.
 
If there was any chance at all that my family was in danger I would hold to the surprise, speed, violence of action. No way could I sit back concerned for my own safety while they could be in danger.
It is very unlikely that anyone will break into my house who knows its layout better than me. It's also pretty unlikely that they will be better armed than me or be as committed as I am to holding my ground.
Maybe I would get killed, but I would rather that than have my kid get killed when I could have done something about it.
 
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