I am thinking about a 6.5x47 build what do you guys think???

[jerkface11]

Coug click the link in my sig to see what my 6.5x47 can do. That's with 109gr scenars and varget.

 

[janobles14]

what about a 6.5 grendel? easy forming from 7.62x39 brass.

 

[unwise11]

To defend the .308, there is not an "accurate cartridge".. there are accurate rifles, and since most 6.5x47 Lapua builds are expensive the accuracy is better than the majority of .308 rifles, but a .308 round doesn't have alot to do with it.. The rifle and the shooter, Do..
There are many .308's that can print groups under 5" at 1000 yards, but more can't even hit a target at 300.. that is more the rifle than the round..
However most every 6.5x47 Lapua that is around will drive tacks, because it isn't really a common caliber and not alot of rifles are chambered for it, like they are for the .308
Just my outlook on it though..

 

[pdd614]

did somebody say 6.5x47?
I'm a little partial, but this is absolutely a badass cartridge. Small primer, varget or h4350 powder, and boat loads of high bc bullets to choose from. My current favorite is the 130jlk at a mild 2820 from a 22 inch barrel with suppressor. I know some people get scared away by the initial cost of the brass, but this stuff is some of the best I have used. After reloading this stuff near 10x, I still haven't had to trim. Primer pockets are all still tight, and haven't split a neck yet. What more could you want?

490 yards is my longest pig kill so far, but I can routinely get hits out to 1200 with this little guy.
43 pounds of breaks sausage in the background courtesy of the little lapua.


Steel is against the hill at 1086 in this photo. This picture was taken with my backup falcon.




Sorry no group shots. I shoot for hits on steel or pigs.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

Thought you were going with a surgeon action coug! I was looking forward to your report of it. Don't know many with them, matter of fact I can't think off the top of my head ANYONE I know that has one!

pdd614, BANG THA GONGS SON! Another fellow gong banger! I love it!

 

[unwise11]

I wanna shoot steel, but have nowhere to go, as the gunclub doesn't allow it on the rifle range.
That Lap looks nice, very Tactical..

 

[coug]

I would like to go with a sergon. not sure I can swing it.. I am a new and hopefully upcoming FLW pro and I have 4 tournaments coming up quickly,@ $2000 a pop. I will probably go with the good old Remington 700 because I have a donor action found for $250. one of the guys @ my local gun shop has one on a sergon action. but he dosent seem to think there's much of an advantage. especially when I believe they start out around $1400 for an action. I may be wrong I need to research a little better. one thing is for sure, you guys have me overly exited about this build.

 

[longsman]

pdd614,

Is that Vortex Razor rifle scope that you have there? How do you like it? I am trying to choose between the Vortex and Premier Reticles.

 

[coug]

I have a vortex viper and love it OBTW Jerkface nice shooting. the same g that shoots the 6.5x47 on the sergon action shoots the razor. they are a Night Force dealer and a Vortex dealer. he's swares the vortex has better glass. in that they get more definition and color transfer from the razor. I consider him a very reliable resource.

 

[Finprof]

Surgeon action

My build will have a Kelbly Atlas action. The Atlas starts at $700 and is about $800 by the time you are done with a magazine and Panda nut. A new Reminton 700 is around $400 and there is around another $400 in gunsmithing to get it trued and the lugs lapped, so you wind up at the same place.

 

[GunTech]

I've been using VV N550 pretty much exclusively. It's so nice and clean and gives good velocity and accuracy.

I ran RL-15 through quickload to give you some ideas. Have not tried it in the 6.5x47

Cartridge          : 6.5 x 47 Lapua
Bullet             : .264, 140, Sierra HPBT MatchK 1740
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length      : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant Reloder-15

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.679% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-16.8   75    30.05   2275    1608   34444   7458     97.0    1.573
-15.1   76    30.66   2315    1666   36171   7603     97.5    1.540
-13.4   78    31.27   2355    1724   37977   7742     98.0    1.505
-11.8   79    31.87   2395    1784   39864   7875     98.5    1.471
-10.1   81    32.48   2435    1843   41836   8001     98.9    1.438
-08.4   82    33.09   2474    1903   43897   8119     99.2    1.406
-06.7   84    33.69   2514    1964   46050   8231     99.5    1.375
-05.0   85    34.30   2553    2025   48301   8335     99.7    1.345
-03.4   87    34.91   2591    2087   50653   8430     99.8    1.316
-01.7   88    35.51   2629    2149   53112   8518     99.9    1.288
+00.0   90    36.12   2667    2212   55683   8598    100.0    1.261  ! Near Maximum !
+01.7   92    36.73   2705    2275   58372   8670    100.0    1.234  ! Near Maximum !
+03.4   93    37.33   2742    2338   61184   8740    100.0    1.209  ! Near Maximum !
+05.0   95    37.94   2779    2401   64128   8809    100.0    1.184  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.7   96    38.55   2816    2465   67208   8876    100.0    1.160  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.4   98    39.15   2852    2529   70435   8942    100.0    1.137  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

 

[coug]

realy my smith only charges $100 to true and lapp. maybe he's taking me for a ride? what do you guys think of building this on a long action? I already have one of those to.. my smith doesn't think you get anything more from a short over a long he thinks if its trued its trued. no advantage over a long action I don't realy know. he likes to get people to build the 6.5x284 on a long action because of the high BC bullets.

 

[unwise11]

Why do they give you load data you can't use?
Or is it just a liability thing?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Why are you wedded to a 700 action? This is 2011 and we have lots of options

Before you build a 700 action, pay to have the thing trued, replace the trigger and still have a bolt comprised of a bunch of soldered together pieces I would definitely go aftermarket.........OR at least look at what savages system has to offer. For around $400 the savage target action is the best thing going short of an aftermarket piece. The target accutrigger is as good as anything I've used factory or aftermarket and the floating bolt head will allow both lugs to bear. They're available in all sorts of bolt port combinations (mine is a right bolt left port)

Best of all unless you're using god's own gunsmith you can put one togeather yourself on your workbench that will shoot just as good or in many cases better than anything your local smith can build on a 700

Honestly if I were gonna "build" a 700 I'd put a savage bolt head and barrel nut on it anyway

 

[coug]

thanks, I haven't used any of the N series powder. but I will have to try some. I've thought about it but I have loads worked up for nearly everything already. I am in the process with my 6.5-06AI but im using stuff like RL-25 and retumbo.

 

[flashhole]

R.W.Dale wrote "For around $400 the savage target action is the best thing going short of an aftermarket piece."

I've been looking at these but don't know where to buy one. For the price you mentioned you didn't get it from Savage. Any thoughts on where to buy one?

 

[R.W.Dale]

R.W.Dale wrote "For around $400 the savage target action is the best thing going short of an aftermarket piece."

I've been looking at these but don't know where to buy one. For the price you mentioned you didn't get it from Savage. Any thoughts on where to buy one?

Looks like they've gone up a little since I last bought one but still a great deal for what you get.

http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php?topic=7912.0

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

RW that link leads to a post with the last post date of Jan 2010. Little out of date there bud

 

[R.W.Dale]

RW that link leads to a post with the last post date of Jan 2010. Little out of date there bud

Did you call Jim at Northlander?

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

I primarily deal with Scott Null at Savage Gunsmithing. If he doesn't have it, he can get it and at some very reasonable prices (Except his barrels are a little salty but still worth it) Not too many Smiths know their way around a savage as well as him and his crew.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I primarily deal with Scott Null at Savage Gunsmithing. If he doesn't have it, he can get it and at some very reasonable prices (Except his barrels are a little salty but still worth it) Not too many Smiths know their way around a savage as well as him and his crew.

I've not used those guys yet but I hear nothing but praise for their work.

 

[coug]

the reason I do the 700s is because there are so many around if someone has one for 300 or less I buy it.. but im not just dead set on the Remington action. I have savage and I like them. I will check into the sergon actions a little deeper and the savage target.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

They do very high quality work. And Scott is probably one of the nicest people you will ever speak to. Something rare for a gun smith all by itself right there It is rare that someone in that trade will send you to the "competition" for barrels or whatever because he may not have exactly what you want and do so with great appreciation. The man is a definite plus in this cutthroat business.

 

[Freedom_fighter_in_IL]

coug, the surgeon actions, for what you are wanting, is around $1250.00. The base price for the Lawton 7500 I am getting for the .300 build is only $895.00

Here is the links for both so you can get a good look at pricing and all the goodies.

http://lawtonmachine.com/actions.html

http://www.surgeonrifles.com/products/actions/?module=products&product_id=140

I am assuming you want the short action repeater. The Lawton 7500 can be ordered in short or long. That surgeon is short action only

 

[pdd614]

longsman, I know its a little off topic, but I have had both the premier 3-15 and this razor 5-20. The premier was a great scope while it worked, but when it went down Premier refused to fix it. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that ordeal. So much for premiers life time warranty, I guess.
In addition to the warranty problems, I believe the ebr-3 reticle on the razor is a much better reticle than the gen2xr.