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I am thinking about a FAB-10! Now I need an affordable upper. Suggestions?
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Sven
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Nice project - I will probably follow suit at some point. Looks like you got a great deal!
45R
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I had a chance to shoot a FAB10 today. It was interesting. Something about having a neutered AR is disturbing. The rifle shot great but the rifle jammed once and it was a pain in the ??? to clear and the joke of the day was that you need a punch and a rubber mallet for take down.
How about a SU16 from Keltec?
How about a SU16 from Keltec?
Nothing personal to El Rojo. I just can't do the FAB-10 thing. As a prisoner of occupied Kali, I would rather drive to Arizona and buy the real thing before I purchased this abortion of a perfectly good rifle. Every time I would pick up the thing, it would remind me of how much I hate the socialists.
I have my Garand and a Mini-14. That will have to do for now until we are liberated.
I have my Garand and a Mini-14. That will have to do for now until we are liberated.
Armalite's 1 piece scope mount is pretty decent, for mounting a scope to an AR15 flattop it's about perfect.
The only exception, I find that it doesn't allow enough room for forward mounting scopes with REALLY long eye relief. That is part of the reason I put an adjustable butt plate on my rifle, to get additional stock length for a proper cheek weld behind my 6.5-20 Leupold Long Range. But I'm also a tall wookie like creature, it helps to have a longer stock as it just fits the rifle better to me.
Was out in McKittrick today, got in some GOOD shooting while putting my mil-dot scope to use.... ranged the target for 500 yards and shot some groups, after it was all said and done my friend whips out his GPS unit and marks the waypoint of the shooting position and the target position. Results came in as .28 miles! That's 495 yards! Even if the silly thing was rounding up to .28 miles from something like .275-.279 it's still a very close range stimation as .27 miles is 475 yards.
Just need to work on my load, was trying a new load today and it's not quite flat enough, I'd guess muzzle velocity for the 190grn SMK is right around 2750-2800 as it's only a midrange starting load. Gonna push the charge weight up and see if I can get it closer to the 2900-2950 range. The load I shot today was about 1.5MOA lower at 500 yards than a previous load I had tried.
Group size was just over 7 inches in extreme spread but all shots landed on an 8x14 inch piece of legal paper that I was using for a target and as a known size object for purposes of ranging.
I LOVE THE MIL-DOT MASTER!
El_Rojo, I'll be ready to go shooting again in a week or so. Maybe we can head out yonder and put some rounds down range, you can see if you like my JP Enterprises single stage trigger on my accurized AR15. Plus I want to put my accurized AR on paper at 500, I haven't yet put it on paper at any distance beyond 100 yards.
The only exception, I find that it doesn't allow enough room for forward mounting scopes with REALLY long eye relief. That is part of the reason I put an adjustable butt plate on my rifle, to get additional stock length for a proper cheek weld behind my 6.5-20 Leupold Long Range. But I'm also a tall wookie like creature, it helps to have a longer stock as it just fits the rifle better to me.
Was out in McKittrick today, got in some GOOD shooting while putting my mil-dot scope to use.... ranged the target for 500 yards and shot some groups, after it was all said and done my friend whips out his GPS unit and marks the waypoint of the shooting position and the target position. Results came in as .28 miles! That's 495 yards! Even if the silly thing was rounding up to .28 miles from something like .275-.279 it's still a very close range stimation as .27 miles is 475 yards.
Just need to work on my load, was trying a new load today and it's not quite flat enough, I'd guess muzzle velocity for the 190grn SMK is right around 2750-2800 as it's only a midrange starting load. Gonna push the charge weight up and see if I can get it closer to the 2900-2950 range. The load I shot today was about 1.5MOA lower at 500 yards than a previous load I had tried.
Group size was just over 7 inches in extreme spread but all shots landed on an 8x14 inch piece of legal paper that I was using for a target and as a known size object for purposes of ranging.
I LOVE THE MIL-DOT MASTER!
El_Rojo, I'll be ready to go shooting again in a week or so. Maybe we can head out yonder and put some rounds down range, you can see if you like my JP Enterprises single stage trigger on my accurized AR15. Plus I want to put my accurized AR on paper at 500, I haven't yet put it on paper at any distance beyond 100 yards.
El Rojo
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If anyone is interested in possibly getting a FAB-10, let me know. There might be a quantity discount. My FFL charges cost + 10% + s/h + tax + dros. I always get my guns cheaper with him. If you within 2-3 hours of Bakersfield, it might be worth it to go in on one of these "neutered" guns. There are plenty of places to shoot round here as well so you can pick up your gun and shoot for free all at the same time.
Steve Smith
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If I were in your shoes, I'd find a good pro-2nd lawyer, discuss it with him, and get a friggin Shrike. A belt is not a feeding device. Without a spring it cannot feed crap. It HOLDS ammunition, but cannot feed it. The upper feeds the belt though it, not the other way round.
I'm not telling you what to do, but if I were in your shoes I'd take the step.
I'm not telling you what to do, but if I were in your shoes I'd take the step.
El Rojo
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Wasn't the price tag on that thing like over 2g's? Sorry Steve, not even remotely in my ball park.
Steve Smith
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3gs, actually. I'd expand my ball park.
Steve, still wanting to build that 1919 this winter...hmmm.
Steve, still wanting to build that 1919 this winter...hmmm.
artherd
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Steve- know any good lawyers?
$3k and sticking it to the antis in GRAND style sounds like a good deal to me.
Going to have a difficult time taking it to the same range the local CHP frequents though.
It may, actually, be CA legal. And CA can't add to their laws, withought renewing them and allowing another window to 'register' AWs.
From http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regs/revregs2.htm
"Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine;"
So 10 round belts then. Good. All my existing stock of 5.56mm belts were purchased YEARS ago, in cash. Probally also want to avoid something like a fixed SAW type can for ~200rounds.
$3k and sticking it to the antis in GRAND style sounds like a good deal to me.
Going to have a difficult time taking it to the same range the local CHP frequents though.
It may, actually, be CA legal. And CA can't add to their laws, withought renewing them and allowing another window to 'register' AWs.
From http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/regs/revregs2.htm
"Ammunition feeding device includes any belted or linked ammunition, but does not include clips, en bloc clips, or stripper clips that load cartridges into the magazine;"
So 10 round belts then. Good. All my existing stock of 5.56mm belts were purchased YEARS ago, in cash. Probally also want to avoid something like a fixed SAW type can for ~200rounds.
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