I bought a new S&W; don’t hate me.

My new truck has an electric parking brake. Put it in park, electric brake goes on. No way to disable it.

What if the brake accidentally comes on while driving? What if the brake prevents me from starting?

I hate this Biden brake.

Why do you call it a biden brake. They were in use well before biden became our laughing stock excuse for a president. I drive a '17 vintage suv that is so equipped and it has never given problem one. It was a little confusing at first until I learned to give it a little gas to get it to release. I also don't understand why it would prevent starting as that is the only was to get it to release.

Back to the OP. Why would I hate you? Your decision cost me nothing and I don't have to look at it. :D Use it and enjoy it. They are very nice looking guns.
 
Why do you call it a biden brake. They were in use well before biden became our laughing stock excuse for a president. I drive a '17 vintage suv that is so equipped and it has never given problem one. It was a little confusing at first until I learned to give it a little gas to get it to release. I also don't understand why it would prevent starting as that is the only was to get it to release.

Back to the OP. Why would I hate you? Your decision cost me nothing and I don't have to look at it. :D Use it and enjoy it. They are very nice looking guns.

Dry humor. Makes about as much sense as people complaining about a Hilary hole.
 
who am I kidding! those New S&W LOOK GOOD! short barrel 29 us calling me! nice .44 special light loads in them

I just wish They won’t write “Classic”
on the side, same with New Colt 1911’s . Stop putting Classic on it! lol
I wish they had used a font size and type on newer guns that is closer to their older stuff. Some of my newer S&W’s all have a big, blocky font that isn’t very eye-appealing. (At least it doesn’t have the ugly lawyer billboard like my Rugers do!)

New Model 48, new model 617, 2002-era 686+ and a no-dash Model 64. The Model 48 font is sorta-ok, but the 64 and similar older Smiths have the font I like.

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686+, big and blocky.
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617, same.
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67 this is the look I like.
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48 better, but not as nice as the older guns.
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As for the lock? Meh. I wish it wasn’t there but I don’t get wound up about it.

Nice .44 OP, I think you are going to like it. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Congrats on the addition.
The proportions are cleaner on the 2pcs barrel snubbies.
I went with the 2.75" 69
 
I hate the lock on principle but, in (my) reality, it doesn't do anything but affect a classic firearms astheticts (the N frame models have the same frame contour in the upper, sweeping area of the hammer as the non-lock models. K/L frames are different here to accommodate the lock)

I've owned a few S&W revolvers over the years and when I decided I wanted a 610, I didn't let the lock stop me.

My 610 is easily the equal of all my "old" S&W revolvers in the fit and finish department and the MIM trigger (another area of disgust to us S&W purists) is better than some of my older ones; only time will tell if it's more durable.

Frankly, I'm more disappointed in the fact that I might get a barrel that's overclocked, a bad muzzle crown or some other QC issue with my beloved S&W than the lock.
 
I bought the same revolver a few years ago a little visit to the local gunsmith and it was very reliable. It's a perfect size for concealed carry and the revolver I carry most. I also carry it because it's easily replaced if something bad happens. It has a really nice trigger now and I shoot it well. Other than the hillary hole and the sleeved barrel I love it.
 
I've got two with the lock that have been absolutely top tier.

How did I end up with two?

Because no lock smith's are kind of savaged on the trade market. I got a governor for a gen 2 glock 17 trade, police trade in! So a governor for like 275, and I traded a hellcat for a smith 586 6 inch. So I got a 586 for 475.

Too good to pass up! I enjoy shooting these revolvers so much more, and I've made them both working guns without feeling too bad about it.
 
Yep, I did. With my own money. No one had a gun to my head. A Model 66-8, 2.75” barrel. I actually WANTED it. Hillary hole, yes. Two-piece barrel, yes. Hideous rubber grips, yes. And let me admit, no, confess? Testify? Let me just say, then, that it is a fine firearm. First, the balance on these 2.75” revolvers is excellent, much more neutral than the 2.5” or 3” 686. The weight, at 33.5 oz, is enough mass to help with recoil while still being carryable in a (large) coat pocket. The overall form factor is just great. The bead blasted, matte finish is lovely to my eye and I don’t mind the black oxide cylinder release, hammer, trigger and ejector rod. I actually kinda like the accents. The new ball detent lockup is superb, as is the full, uncut forcing cone. It certainly LOOKS stronger than my three other vintage k frames. I always loathed the stubby ejector rod on short-barreled K and J frames and I am delighted that this has a full-length one. The sights? Eh, why did they have to make the rear sight notch shallower than a frog’s hair? They’re “fine” but probably something I’ll change. The grips? I generally don’t like rubber grips, especially round butt rubber grips, and I generally don’t like finger grooves, and I generally don’t like grips that cover the backstrap. I should hate these. I don’t. I actually like them. They’re grabby and long so they’re less than ideal for carry. But they actually offer an excellent firing grip on the revolver for both single- and double-action shooting, and they absorb recoil very well. I might swap them out for Pachmayr’s but the one’s I’ve bought in recent years are a pale shadow of the company’s more historical efforts. The stock grips make Fiocchi 158 grain .357 JHP’s feel like warm .38’s, and the grip is firm and repeatable. How does it shoot, with the two-piece barrel? Terrible. Everyone knows these are only capable of 12” groups at 25 yards. Actually, offhand 25 yard groups are the same as with my 67-1, Model 19-3 and pre-18 .22. That is to say, under 3” when care is taken. Double action pull is heavy (no idea of the weight, probably 13 lbs) but very smooth and I’d estimate the single action pull at 4.5 lbs with no creep and just a scootch of barely perceptible overtravel. This is a really nice gun. Superbly finished, extremely tight, nothing’s amiss. Sights, yeah, I’ll probably change ‘em, or at least deepen the notch and cold blue it. Grips? Maybe I’ll get something else, but these work damn well. Hillary hole? I don’t care anymore. Accurate? You betcha. Trigger? Maybe I’ll have someone massage it eventually but for now I’m just going to enjoy shooting it. I’m super happy with this.
Congratulations on a fine gun! If I had the $$$, I would also make the purchase! 🥰
 
I'm not a fan of the hole, but the new 66's and 69's are good guns.
I've had a 69 for a few years and it handles and shoots well.

I did replace the front sight on mine and make a plug/remove the internal lock.

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What is the black finish on the action parts? Nice looking piece, v8stang!

As per the OP, yeah, Smith rear sights could use a deeper notch; at least the front and rear sights are replaceable.
Got a 25-15 last year; nicely fit and finished, a little creep in the single action (Springfield sent me a new hammer...), but the darned thing was nicely fit and finished. This model doesn't have the two piece barrel, but, frankly, they're an improvement on the torqued in one piece ones. I've had too many that were out of index (fixed with leather jawed vise and a hammer handle through the cylinder window...). But even the polish is good on mine.
Moon
 
I’d want the black bits silver if I had a 69. A fellow on sw forum said he used scotchbrite to remove the color
 
Thanks everyone! Ammo came in the mail yesterday (I love TargetSportsUSA.com) and I had the time to get back to the range for a bit. .38’s are easy-peasy and very accurate. .357, although there’s more sturm und drang in the form of blast and flash, is quite controllable and actually just a teeny-weeny bit more accurate. My gun definitely shows a preference for New Republic 158 grain FMJ and will put these into a ragged hole at 7 yards easily. Oddly it shoots much more to the left than the others, but ‘tis no bother, really. This is an inexpensive range load so I’ll stack it deep, I think. It’s no good for defense but it just shoots so well. Borrowing my friend’s chronograph I discovered that these average 1220 fps from my 66-8, so it’s a decently hot load. It’s an all-around great revolver.
 
That’s a good looking revolver @vanfunk
It looks like a nicely balanced shooter. It would definitely stop me in my tracks if I saw it in a display case. Congrats! :cool:
 
Yep, I did. With my own money. No one had a gun to my head. A Model 66-8, 2.75” barrel. I actually WANTED it. Hillary hole, yes. Two-piece barrel, yes. Hideous rubber grips, yes. And let me admit, no, confess? Testify? Let me just say, then, that it is a fine firearm. First, the balance on these 2.75” revolvers is excellent, much more neutral than the 2.5” or 3” 686....
If your happy, I'm happy.

But, I feel a 2.75" barrel is a waste of 357 Mag power.

I'm not fond of the "Hillary" hole but it has not stopped from buying S&W revolvers. I have a few with the lock. (don't know where the keys are though) I'm more disturbed about the fit and finish of the current production guns. The current guns just do not look as nice as those made in the past.

Someday, I may invest in one of the new Model 66's or a Classic Model 19 with the new barrel. arrangement. But it will have a least w 4": barrel.

I have a Model 19-4 that I cracked the forcing cone on. S&W replaced the barrel. But I'd like to see if the new design is more durable. I like the K-frame revolvers.

Enjoy your new gun.
 
I guess I'll be the outlier, and share my personal opinion. I'm not a fan of the new 66 and 69 Smiths. They just scream budget Taurus revolvers to me. The Taurus grade bead blast finish, the black cylinder release, ejector rod, trigger, and hammer, and I'm not really a fan of the cost savings (that aren't passed to the consumer) 2 peice barrel.

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I would have rathered they kept it standard and classic looking. Something like this....
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With that said, all that's important and really mstters is that it shoots straight, is reliable, and others are happy with their 66 and 69 Combat Magnums.
 
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I am very sensitive to guns feeling “cheap” so I know how you feel, Styx. Fortunately, there’s nothing at all cheap about how the way these new k frames feel. The two-tone look is controversial, to be sure, but is cosmetic only and has no detriment to the inherent quality or strength of the parts. The bead blasted finish is actually quite “deluxe” looking to my eye and is perfectly done. I had several S&W revolvers in the late nineties that exhibited poor finishing/wavy lines, canted flats, etc. and this example is free of those deficits. The addition of the ball detent and the full-size forcing cone bring the 66-8 much closer in strength to the L frame, which I appreciate as I intend to fire 80-90% magnums in this. The two piece barrel may make manufacturing easier or less expensive but it also has advantages, such as making it easier to align the barrel shroud and avoiding the barrel indexing problems S&W has struggled with for years (I had three with canted barrels). Anyway, what’s great about this sport is that there’s a lot of room for personal opinion, proclivity and choice out there! I have sentimental attachments to S&W (I grew up near the factory) and Colt and am so p,eased that both companies are churning out excellent revolvers for us ol’ curmudgeons.
 
I saw a nice used one in the LGS for $650 about a month ago. If I would have had the funds, I would have bought it. I don’t care for the black cylinder release but that’s easy enough to fix. Glad the OP likes it
 
v8stang/vanfunk, thanks for the responses and pics. Personally, like the contrasting color.
BTW, older Smiths had color case action parts; the early stainless guns had the forged parts flash chromed.
Current production that looks color case are actually MIM, but they are precise, and work well.
Moon
 
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