I can't get my brass shiny anymore

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No disrespect but I have seen similar statements before. 25 Years??

Media does not only get dirty and full of contaminates but it also looses its "edge" the sharpness if you will and does not clean as well. Leaving filthy media in the tumbler just tumbles the brass in dirt, lead and whatever. Clean media with additive will clean filthy brass in 1-2 hours.

In the over all costs of reloading fresh media costs what .05 Cents?? Guess I just don't understand not changing it. Do you wash your socks?;):D
Honest, 25 years. I would take it outside on a windy day and pour it into another bucket. This would get rid of the dust as the wind carried it away. And from time to time I'd replace a little of the media with new. Not often.

If you think that's something you won't believe how old the tumbler is. 36 years and still running. The brand is a Thumlers. It is showing it's age though. Some rust but I could probably clean it up, paint it and keep going.

Never spent more than 2 hours cleaning a batch of brass.
 
Sometimes i run an extension cord outside and run the tumber with a heavy duty fan blowing right on it. The dust just blows away. Dryer sheets are standard for indoors.
 
On the new dryer sheets to the old, in my case it was a new one and it contributed to a gummy mess of some sludge with media stuck to the rims and necks of the cases. Maybe some thing else was the culprit but, it doesn't happen when I use the used dryer sheets.
 
Also, why use a new dryer sheet that costs good money when the used sheet you usually throw away will serve the purpose?

Because I'm not the member of the household that removes them from the dryer.:neener: Also, new sheets are about $5/100...pretty cheap, adding to my reloading costs....let's see, what's 5 cents divided by 250 cases?:D
 
Because I'm not the member of the household that removes them from the dryer.:neener: Also, new sheets are about $5/100...pretty cheap, adding to my reloading costs....let's see, what's 5 cents divided by 250 cases?:D
I put a small box on top of the dryer and asked my wife to put the used dryer sheets in it. She has no problem doing that for me.

As for the dryer sheets being cheap, not as cheap as I am! :p
 
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I run mine outdoors and let the wind blow away the dust for free. If the weather is bad, then I put on the cover and run it in the garage.
The mineral spirits will clean the brass much faster. Nufinish helps.
 
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Ok, I just tumbled my first load of brass since prolly July. I'm using the SAME dirty media that I had used at that time. I put my cases in with no dryer sheets or anything and tumbled them for one hour and they came out glistening. Same dirty media, the only variable that's changed is the season. So my theory is that summertime in Chicago is a bad time to tumble brass. Maybe the sweltering, muggy air just makes dust stick to brass?
 
I accidently left my 9mm shells, (about 250) in my tumbler with Walnut and mineral spirits, in for 26 hours. Boy where they shiney, almost blinded me. the walnut was dark and dirty after that run.

I could of just threw it away and poured in more form the 5 gallon bucket i had, but was bored so i washed and dried the walnut and its like new again.:what::eek::neener:
 
If you use dryer sheets all the time, there will hardly be any dust to stick to the brass and whatever dust is too big to stick to the sheets will be too big to stick to the brass. The used dryer sheets also prevent static cling of the dust to the brass. You just learned the first principle of what is done with Airsoft BB dry tumble powder coating (ASBBDT PC) except you have brass instead of lead and walnut dust instead of powder coat paint.
 
So, I used a dash of mineral spirits as suggested to improve the sine.; and my brass (see below) is the least shiny ever; it seems to have a coating that, with enough elbow grease, does rub off. The shiny round third from right is for comparison and from a previous load before the mineral spirits were added. I was running a previously used (but not overused) mix of corn-cub and walnut to which some FlitzTumblr polish had been added. There was also a small piece of dryer sheet in the mix.

What happened?

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I don't know.
I have never used mineral spirits, or anything else except clean media, Flitz or other case polish, and let R rip for 4 hours or so.

I use straight Walnut for cleaning.
And straight corn cob for final polishing.

Usually when it starts looking like that, the media is over loaded with too much polish.

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I am not sure either. I don't use anything but walnut and mineral spirits. It may be that the mix of polish and mineral spirits in the media is a problem.

I would bet that if you tumble them again in fresh media with either just mineral spirits or just polish, it will do away with the film.
 
Ultrasonic cleaning devices are known for their cleaning abilities to clean surfaces that are difficult to clean manually.
Their cleaning is known for precision in cleaning things like eyeglasses, jewelry, gemstones, watches, coins, medical/surgical instruments, etc. which otherwise would have been damaged if you tried basic cleaning.
The cleaning process of Ultrasonic cleaner hardly takes time, and delivers you thorough cleaning in minimum of cost.
 
So, I used a dash of mineral spirits as suggested to improve the shine
Mineral spirits doesn't improve the shine/polish, it speeds the cleaning by removing the carbon. I would guess it dissolved the carrier wax of your Flitz polish, and this deposited on your cases.

I accidently left my 9mm shells, (about 250) in my tumbler with Walnut and mineral spirits, in for 26 hours. Boy where they shiney, almost blinded me. the walnut was dark and dirty after that run.

I could of just threw it away and poured in more form the 5 gallon bucket i had, but was bored so i washed and dried the walnut and its like new again.
Yep, Lefty. That story is familiar to me. Forget about tumbler and fall asleep. Wake up to blinding brass that's so mirror-like, I can't tell the nickel cases apart from brass. And jet black media. What I realized is that the dark and "dirty" is nothing more than particles of brass and brass tarnish that build up in the media. Take a load of shiny factory new or wet-tumbled cases, run them in a fresh batch of the same type of media for the same 26 hours, and your media will be the same dark and "dirty." The black media will still put a finish polish on cases, but it won't be able to get them clean in the first place. This is why I stop when my brass is clean. If I wanted to bother with a high polish, I would have two sets of media, just like you would use two grits of sandpaper for shaping vs finishing.

If I were to guess, I'd wager that the tarnish is harder than brass. So the black media polish the heck out of already clean and shiny cases. But being the same or less hard as brass tarnish, they hinder the initial cleaning process for dirty, tarnished brass. Same way that red rouge (rust particles) can very slowly finish polish clean iron (and softer tarnished metals), but it can't clean oxidized/patina'd iron, in the first place (if I'm recalling things, correctly, anyway). Car polish, OTOH, has much harder abrasives that remove tarnish and dirt (dirt having a considerable content of metal oxides in it, itself). The more black the media gets, the more you are diluting the harder abrasives in the media.

And yes, this "black rouge" can easily be separated from the media with a few seconds of agitation in just a little bit of water, if you care to. I barely do more than get the media wet, and squeeze out the excess. The black comes away, very easily. YMMV, depending on what additives you use.

So maybe, in one way of thinking, the more you use the media to polish, the more finer (really softer) "grit" it becomes. The very act of polishing is removing brass, which creates brass in the media. This explains why you can take fresh media and turn exactly one batch of brass from cruddy dirty and tarnished to super bling... but then it won't ever do it again. If you set up at least two batches of media, you could get those results for a long, long time. Just don't do any polishing in the first batch. BerettaProf, your shiny case looks pretty polished. To go from dirty to that level of shine, you might find it more efficient to use two or more stages of tumbling. This is something that guys like RC have figured out a long time ago.
 
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I keep leaving these new dryer sheets in my stainless steel tumbler.

Its not helping at all. Less effective than the nu-finish in my ultrasonic cleaner.

There has to be a better way....
 
I use walnut for the first run and corncob with Flitz for the final run. Makes them nice and shiney. Used dryer sheets help.
 
Forget mineral spirits!!!

It does exactly nothing. except make your media less effective, and generate an explosive vapor inside your tumbler bowl!!!

Dry media polishes.

Wet media with mineral spirits, or too much polish doesn't.

Adding more case polish every time eventually loads the media with too much polish so the sharp edges can no longer reach the brass to do anything except coat it with dirty polish & dust.

You can get knock your eyes out shiny with fresh Zila brand lizard litter from Petco, and a couple of cap- full of Flitz, or almost any other case polish.

Just did 650 very cruddy 9mm cases that way a couple of weeks ago in two- three hours of tumbling..

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As mentioned earlier walnut cleans a bit better, corn cob makes them shine better. IMO
My final polish is conrncob and Flitz.
 
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