I feel like carrying at 2:00-2:30 with a 45 degree cant stops the argument?

[taymag]

Mainly I was wondering, does AIWB have a bad name because you could shoot your jewels off? Or because you femoral artery?

Wouldn't a 45 degree cant holster at 2-2:30 solve all these problems AND push the barrel just right of the hip when sitting?

I work at home so rarely change from gym shorts when I leave the house during the day and honestly don't see how more people dont carry here

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Nothing will stop the argument on some things
That said, it that position of carry works for you and your body type then go with it.
I'm not a fan of std AIWB carry, not sure when it became so popular but seems to be a new generation idea to some extent. I prefer strong side hip and it solves all those issues. Never got the gain to AIWB but my body type (thick, fat, whatever) never liked that even when I was thin.

So, do what works for you. Don't expect that to end the debate though!

 

[JohnBiltz]

Its not new, Wild Bill was carrying a brace of pistols in close to appendix carry, a bit higher for sure but those were big guns by today's standards. I think it makes a lot of sense to keep your weapons in front of you. Where they are under your control and they can't be snaked out of your holster from behind. If I could, I would carry that way. I think the reason most people don't carry that way has nothing to do with shooting themselves and more to do with how uncomfortable it is for them.

 

[bikerdoc]

Aiwb only works for me with my small 380. 9, 357, and 45 are belt or paddle at 3 o 4 oclock.
Do what works for you, just think it through be safe and practice.

 

[bearcreek]

Mainly I was wondering, does AIWB have a bad name because you could shoot your jewels off? Or because you femoral artery?

Those are both concerns that people have. A good, modern weapon in a quality, well designed holster along with proper trigger discipline makes them non-issues.

Wouldn't a 45 degree cant holster at 2-2:30 solve all these problems AND push the barrel just right of the hip when sitting?

No, it would not help really. You'd still muzzle yourself when drawing the gun while sitting. Trigger discipline is key.

I work at home so rarely change from gym shorts when I leave the house during the day and honestly don't see how more people dont carry here

Are you saying you want to try these carry methods while wearing gym shorts?

 

[stoky]

Aiwb only works for me with my small 380. 9, 357, and 45 are belt or paddle at 3 o 4 oclock.
Do what works for you, just think it through be safe and practice.

I have a sub-compact 9 that works at 2:00.
with a safety.....................on
still makes me a little antsy

 

[bearcreek]

I have a sub-compact 9 that works at 2:00.
with a safety.....................on
still makes me a little antsy

Aiwb only works for me with my small 380. 9, 357, and 45 are belt or paddle at 3 o 4 oclock.

I carry a Glock 19 in a G-Code INCOG AIWB holster every day. Takes some getting used to but I'd never go back now.

 

[Tirod]

Wear whatever you want - I get a lot of customers in the auto parts store in gym shorts. It could be snowing and there they are, flip flops too.

The real issue about what holster position is "safe" is about people who put their finger in the trigger too soon, or attempt to holster a gun in their pants. The first is a basic safety issue, the second is realistic firearms handling - you never take it out unless you are going to use it, and if you use it you put it on a flat surface where the cops will see you are disarmed when they finally get there.

Practice with a firearm in a class that requires you to constantly reholster a loaded gun is a completely separate issue. Some will no longer allow appendix carry in class.. Same problem on public ranges practicing with a shoulder holster. Other shooters will have issues with it. That kind of practice needs to be done with snap caps.

As for the wear and use of basketball shorts carrying a gun, I haven't seen any with belt loops, Pants with an elastic waist aren't suitable for firearms carry. Don't mix and match incompatible clothing with carry intended for other garments. It's a basic, foundational issue.

We haven't stopped the argument, it only increases the scope.

 

[psyopspec]

For me, that position would park the gun right on hip bone and get pretty uncomfortable pretty quick.

When drawing and shooting, I've also found that straight lines are stronger -- in this case, a straight line from elbow down the midline of the forearm and through the hand combined with a good proper firing grip on the draw will make that draw faster and surer while aiding in retention. Unlocked wrists (i.e., angled to get a grip on the butt of the weapon) are easier to take things from.

For me to set my mind at ease with AIWB, I use a forward rock of the hips on reholstering to get the femoral artery out of the equation, combined with good habits, visual clearance, and being very conscious of my movements when reholstering.

 

[taymag]

I shoot USPSA and have had "finger out of the trigger hole" hammered into my head. And in my opinion, I don't see ANY situation where I would be reholstering if it had to come out. If I did, things would be to the point where I could take the holster off to reholster, and that hopefully will be less than once in a lifetime. Obviously practice is different but I draw at 3:00 in competition and 2:30 practicing with an unloaded gun

As for gym shorts, I've carried in them for close to a decade (not 100% of the time, but alot), and unless I am doing cartwheels, a Remora holster with a clip has kept it in place perfect.

This mainly came to mind when I started using a 45 degree cant since the barrel misses the thigh when I sit (also major arteries IF it went off, which it wont)

 

[Browning]

Mainly I was wondering, does AIWB have a bad name because you could shoot your jewels off? Or because you femoral artery?

Both probably, although my jewels and scepter are more important to me than my femoral artery.

I've gone on a two shootings where guys were shot in the junk and they appeared to be in more pain than others I've gone on and way more freaked out. One accidentally shot himself and the other was a drug dealer who attempted to disarm another drug dealer who both wanted his stash and wanted to continue seeing the other guys girlfriend.

After seeing both of those I'd like to avoid that type of thing as much as possible. So it's 4 o'clock for me. Plus I drive quite a bit and the few times I've tried appendix carry besides being VERY aware of it the butt of the pistol and the holster was jammed into my midsection (that might be solved by a different holster, the one I was using was a Glock 42 and a Bladetech holster) and I'm not fat. If I were chubbier I imagine that it would be even more uncomfortable.

Wouldn't a 45 degree cant holster at 2-2:30 solve all these problems AND push the barrel just right of the hip when sitting?

That just means that the muzzle of the pistol is riding at the top of the leg and that when seated that your leg would be kind of prying the gun off your belt and jamming it even further into your midsection.

I tried that, didn't work out well. At least not for me with that particular holster, gun, belt combination with my physique.

Couldn't get used to it and switched back to IWB at 4 o'clock.

 

[Milt1]

Nothing will stop the argument on some things
That said, it that position of carry works for you and your body type then go with it.
I'm not a fan of std AIWB carry, not sure when it became so popular but seems to be a new generation idea to some extent. I prefer strong side hip and it solves all those issues. Never got the gain to AIWB but my body type (thick, fat, whatever) never liked that even when I was thin.

So, do what works for you. Don't expect that to end the debate though!

When, I agree with you exactly! It boils down to body type, period! I could never carry IWB on either side but I read where that's a favorite with many. Always pick a carry for your body type!

 

[bearcreek]

As for gym shorts, I've carried in them for close to a decade (not 100% of the time, but alot), and unless I am doing cartwheels, a Remora holster with a clip has kept it in place perfect.

What kind of gun?