3 rounds in a magazine and PVC pipes?!?
Well, didn't have any desire to ever visit PA again- and still don't.
Our state legislature is bought and paid for by developers, so its no surprise they have little trouble getting outdoor ranges shut down to build more ticky-tacky boxes.
On the other hand, indoor facilities are flourishing as many if those boxes are being filled with right-minded refugees from "progressive" hellscapes who want to practice- just at short distances in the air-conditioning.
It is unlawful to...
(6) Load or discharge a firearm that contains more than six rounds of single projectile ammunition.
Youre just in the wrong part of PA. Lots of places you can get what you want. We're out in rural central PA not too far from State College, amongst the Mennonites and Amish. The closest roads that "go somewhere" are about 45 minutes to an hour away.
Land and housing are the "cheap" part of things. No "zoning" either. We don't live "in town" (towns around here are like 150-200 people). We have a couple of neighbors, the closest of which is about 300 yards away. I can shoot in my yard any time I want, and most do (Tannerite is popular ), but I shoot a lot, and don't want to annoy the few neighbors I have, got a great little club range that rarely ever has someone there, about a two minute drive around the hill from my house, so I annoy their neighbors.
Nice roads, no traffic, mostly all State Police, so you don't have to deal with local yokel BS too much.
We have 5G high speed cellular internet, satellite TV, UPS and Fedex know where to bring the stuff, and "serious" shopping is only about a half hour drive to "the Walmart". We even just got a Dollar Store! What else do you need?
So, what youre saying is, you dont really want to move, just bitch a little?
OP mentioned Pennsylvania on post #13 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ople-even-shoot-anymore.929652/#post-12877987If you only mentioned what state you live in so one could offer constructive advice.......
Welcome, longtime lurker. I too was a longtime lurker before I started posting.Long time reader, first time poster.
My parents retired to mountain town of Oregon off I-5 and built a new house on 5 acres. They are surrounded by neighbors on acreages and they readily and freely shoot on their properties and many are hunters. Back of parents' house faces a hillside perfect for 25/50 yard range set up.when I got older, I'd want to have a house with a safe backstop where I can safely shoot a rifle and hunt on my own property.
Being able to shoot freely was one of several key criteria for our retirement location.moving ... where can I just take an SKS, load it to capacity, and fire controlled pairs at a target 150 meters away?
Where do you folks shoot at?
I think a large part that's missing (and others from PA are omitting from the discussion) is it's illegal to shoot recreationally in the state forest / state gamelands in PA.OP mentioned Pennsylvania on post #13 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ople-even-shoot-anymore.929652/#post-12877987
Welcome, longtime lurker. I too was a longtime lurker before I started posting.
My parents retired to mountain town of Oregon off I-5 and built a new house on 5 acres. They are surrounded by neighbors on acreages and they readily and freely shoot on their properties and many are hunters. Back of parents' house faces a hillside perfect for 25/50 yard range set up.
Pro 2A sentiment is high for the area as budget cutback for Sheriff department reduced number deputies (They are in the County) to where they encouraged property owners to complete CCW permit/defensive shooting training as LE response may be slow due to limited coverage in rural areas.
Being able to shoot freely was one of several key criteria for our retirement location.
I am 30-45 minutes away from several BLM designated shooting areas but as Forest Rangers/Sheriff Deputies confirmed, as long as I am past the BLM markers, I can freely shoot "into" BLM areas and they "encourage" target shooting practice and readily support 2A.
Closest BLM shooting area 30 minutes away supports several 25-50 yard spots and one 100 yard spot. BLM shooting area 45 minutes away supports two 25-100 yards spots. BLM shooting area an hour away supports multiple 100-300 yard spots. Many shooters told me about BLM areas that support 600-800 yards but have not driven to those areas yet.
As many members already posted, do some research and you should be able to find locations, especially BLM areas, where you can shoot freely, perhaps from your backyard.
058 Pa Code § 135.41. State game lands.
(c) Additional prohibitions. In addition to the prohibitions contained in the act pertaining to State game lands and § 135.2, except with the written permission of the Director, it is unlawful to:
(15) Target shoot with firearms, bows and arrows or devices capable of launching projectiles in a manner that could cause injury to persons or property, or on areas posted closed to those activities.
Not a chance, unless the laws change, in which you wouldn't be interested any more. I just retired a year ago and hope to enjoy this place for a long time....not interested in selling, are you?
Well, to be fair, you didnt specify what was "acceptable", so maybe you need to be clearer in your communication.I said I was moving. That's why I'm selling my guns.
My point is internet in areas that are rural enough to shoot are typically not good enough to work from home (which was verbatim what I said in the original post).
I seem to recall reading standards in those counties still some of the lowest in the state. I guess they still are.
Whos "getting away with anything"? If its your land, or that of a neighbor or friend, you can shoot anywhere you like. We arent stuck where you are and have to deal with the DCNR rules and shooting on their land and put up with all the crap that goes on there.I think a large part that's missing (and others from PA are omitting from the discussion) is it's illegal to shoot recreationally in the state forest / state gamelands in PA.
Like I said to that other dude (who didn't read what I wrote), there's a huge difference between what you're getting away with and what's legally allowed. Lots of folks out here just kind of shoot in the woods because that's what grandpa did. A lot of those folks also end up with criminal records and paying fines when they get caught by the PA Game Commission because someone complains.
It seems like a lot of folks are having an easier time because you can just legally drive into the woods in some states and target shoot. Unfortunately PA is not one of those states.
So how far are you willing to move away from PA to be able to freely shoot?... omitting from the discussion is it's illegal to shoot recreationally in the state forest / state gamelands in PA.
It seems like a lot of folks are having an easier time because you can just legally drive into the woods in some states and target shoot. Unfortunately PA is not one of those states.
Rural KY is like this. Only with more shooting.Youre just in the wrong part of PA. Lots of places you can get what you want. We're out in rural central PA not too far from State College, amongst the Mennonites and Amish. The closest roads that "go somewhere" are about 45 minutes to an hour away.
Land and housing are the "cheap" part of things. No "zoning" either. We don't live "in town" (towns around here are like 150-200 people). We have a couple of neighbors, the closest of which is about 300 yards away. I can shoot in my yard any time I want, and most do (Tannerite is popular ), but I shoot a lot, and don't want to annoy the few neighbors I have, got a great little club range that rarely ever has someone there, about a two minute drive around the hill from my house, so I annoy their neighbors.
Nice roads, no traffic, mostly all State Police, so you don't have to deal with local yokel BS too much.
We have 5G high speed cellular internet, satellite TV, UPS and Fedex know where to bring the stuff, and "serious" shopping is only about a half hour drive to "the Walmart". We even just got a Dollar Store! What else do you need?
I wasn't asking you for tech support or to be my real estate agent. The thread was simply asking where people shoot their rifles at. I already said I'm selling my guns and moving.Well, to be fair, you didnt specify what was "acceptable", so maybe you need to be clearer in your communication.
As far as Skylink goes...
Whos "getting away with anything"? If its your land, or that of a neighbor or friend, you can shoot anywhere you like.
So how far are you willing to move away from PA to be able to freely shoot?
Correct, but these are new in rural PA. They announced it as part of our infrastructure bill a few months ago. We didn't actually begin to see high speed internet to underserved areas until very recently.If the only thing preventing the OP to move to a rural area is fast internet , there has been for many years grants that telephone companies can and do get to improve communications in "underserved" areas.
Unfortunately I've done the research with a team of agents for about 5+ years and there really isn't anything like that in this state. It's starting to appear, but it's highly competitive. You're easily looking at $350k+ and up for something like that.You'll need to do some research but many rural towns have outstanding internet service. There are several people in the area making money off the net.
Not sure but that does happen a lot in this state. Again, there's a lot of folks doing things that they've always done for years (ie - target shooting on game lands ) that aren't actually legal and are now suddenly getting in trouble for it. Times are changing and they aren't favorable to the second amendment. One of the rural townships within my county just had a bunch of angry moms (from the city) move in and try to change the laws so people can't target shoot on their property.Isn't Pennsylvania where Mike Beliveau ran afoul of shooting on his own undeveloped property?
Which again, is part of the reason I'm not interested in doing it anymore. The amount of property you'd need to own to safely shoot without worrying about someone wandering in there is incredible.but still have to be on the look out for ATV'ers who bypass the no trespassing signs and will obliviously ride onto a hot range.
It's funny, outside of philly is where that PVC pipe range I was talking about is located.I have 5 acres and an adequate backstop but more younger people are moving in that don't get it. Just don't want to have trouble with neighbors even though the local police department has said it's fine and told people to stop complaining about hearing gunshots.
I don’t have a solution to the corner you are painted into.
I am doing the shooting I like but know of two nearby ranges forced to relocate by residential encroachment and the one I shot at yesterday is moving in November. Plus three I can think of just gone.
OP, what state range were you shooting at? In the not so distant past, Scotia's range was a great spot in Centre County for shooting and was not supervised by range officers (for better or for worse). Should be within easy striking distance for you.
Consider this for keeping your "boyhood dream" alive ...I'm not moving out of PA ... It's sad my boyhood dream died