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I just bought my first gun!

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Praetorius, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. Praetorius

    Praetorius New Member

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    I went to a gun show with my friend who is all crazy about exercising his constitutional rights, so he has a ton of guns and knows a lot about them.

    So I found this Soviet Mosin-Nagant M91/30 rifle for sale at $85. I certainly wasn't expecting to buy a gun, but I thought this was a really cool piece of history, so I bought it.

    It came with the bayonette and an ammo pouch which has a cleaning kit and this thing of oil that is in a plastic bag because it is leaking everywhere.

    So when I got home, I looked up the manual for this thing online, and I followed the instructions to take it apart. I then put it back together again, and put some of that nasty oil stuff on the moving parts.

    So is there anything I should know about this particular gun? It took me forever to take it apart, and putting it back together was a pain. I doubt I'll ever fire it... I don't even have any bullets!
     
  2. MMcfpd

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    That can be remedied - see the same friend you went to the show with, he'll probably help you out.

    ETA - Congrats!
     
  3. Hoppy590

    Hoppy590 Senior Member

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    you will find most of us here are "all crazy about exercising his constitutional rights"
    you gotta fire it!, ammo is CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP. ammo your looking for is 7.62X54R. any gun shop worth its weight in spent primers will have some surplus
    mosins are an addictive piece of history

    look on the top of the reciever. is it round like a pipe or hexagonal. whats the year. whats the arsenal mark ( triangle with arrow or star with arrow)
     
  4. SaMx

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    ammo is cheap, there is lots of old surplus ammo, but it's corrosive. Go shoot it, it's a lot of fun!
     
  5. Praetorius

    Praetorius New Member

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    The receiver seems to be round... And it's a triangle with an arrow, and 1942.

    I don't think I would WANT to fire it because it would probably kill me. It if didn't blow up in my face, it would probably break my shoulder or detatch my retina :-/
     
  6. General Geoff

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    That "nasty oil stuff" is cosmoline; not a good idea to smother it all over the moving parts. Go out and buy some BreakFree CLP; it's about $10 for a large aerosol can. Scrub that gun till most of the cosmoline is off, then spray some CLP on the bolt and in the receiver. Another good investment is a bore snake; they're made by Hoppes and cost about $10, and are machine washable. You just drop the weighted end through the action and down the barrel, then pull the rest of it through, and presto, you have a clean bore.

    As for ammunition, pick up some 7.62x54R at Aimsurplus for cheap, at least so you can say you can use your rifle if need-be. Having a rifle with no ammo is like having a chainsaw with no chain! :)

    So in summary, for about $60, you can have 300 rounds of ammo, a real cleaning/lubricant agent, and a boresnake. That's pretty much all you need to keep that Mosin in tip-top shape, whether you plan on shooting it often or not.


    edit; as far as shooting it, the first time out on the range, you just have to remember to keep the stock held FIRMLY against your shoulder, as you squeeze the trigger. The recoil of a Mosin is stiff, but the most you'll have is a sore shoulder if you fire more than a dozen rounds. You get used to it, quickly. :)

    Also, if you decide to go shooting, PLEASE REMEMBER EAR PROTECTION! Your shoulder might not break, but your eardrums will, if you don't have muffs or earplugs. :( Wearing shatter-proof glasses is a good idea too.
     
  7. Outlaws

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    Then let me be the first to remind you that it is still always loaded. Its the "unloaded" guns that always seem to get involved in accidents.

    ;)

    Go to a gun shop and buy some ammo. Clean after shooting since its corrosive. And here is a good website with lots of info on it.
    http://www.surplusrifle.com/russianmosin189130/index.asp
     
  8. Baba Louie

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    Welcome to THR and the wonderful world of things that go bang.

    Before you go shoot it, learn the 4 rules of firearm safety. Buy ear and eye safety equipment. Ask your friend to teach you sight alignment using a .22 lr rifle first (no recoil).

    THEN... buy some ammo for that bad boy and put a few rounds downrange. Clean it afterwards. Repeat often.
     
  9. Praetorius

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    Is there any way to get like... dummy bullets that don't fire so that I can load them in and see how it all works?

    And how did soldiers in World War II fire comfortably without ear protection?
     
  10. General Geoff

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    Dummy cartridges you're looking for are called "snap caps." They're used for dry firing practice, and can be picked up or ordered at most gun shops.


    BTW, don't worry about the gun blowing up in your face. So long as you make sure the barrel is free from obstructions before firing, you stand a better chance of being struck by lightning than the gun blowing up on you. Mosins are built to take it. :)
     
  11. Outlaws

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    I doubt there was anything comfortable about WW2. Hollywood also fails to show how ear drums would be shattered with some of the heavier guns that movies routinely show people standing near without ear protection. Blackhawk Down is the only movie I can think of where someone looses their hearing from a firearm.
     
  12. Praetorius

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    That sucks! It amazes me too how easily I was able to get this thing. I just wrote some basic info down, said "yes" to one question and "no" to all the others, and they just let me walk out with this gun!
     
  13. General Geoff

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    That's what makes this country great. :)
     
  14. Praetorius

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    Does most of the loud noise come from the part of the rifle with the bolt, or from the end of the barrel? It seems like it would come from the part where the bullet is actually ignited, but then silencers wouldn't make sense!
     
  15. General Geoff

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    It's called the "muzzle report" for a reason; yes, probably 99% of the noise comes from the end of the barrel.
     
  16. Praetorius

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    Well, at least the end of the barrel is like... four feet away from my ears, then!
     
  17. ZeSpectre

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    Welcome to the world of firearms.
    If you plan on firing this gun MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE IT'S CLEAN. If you don't know how to make sure then contact your friend because cosmoline or other obstructions in the barrel would be BAD!

    Ear protection- a must have
    Eye protection- a must have

    also
    c'mon guys, he's new. You have to let him know what "corrosive" ammo is and HOW to clean it up. :neener:

    Cleaning Corrosive Ammunition

    The above link should help ya.
     
  18. Praetorius

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    Ahhhhhh! I have to completely disassemble the bolt again?!?! Ugh. My hand is like... cut up from doing that. And I was worried that the firing pin was just going to snap right off since I had to press down on it vertically with like thirty pounds of force...
     
  19. General Geoff

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    It's easy. If you want, I'll make a little video for you on how to do it. :)
     
  20. Praetorius

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    Are any of the parts that the rifle came with useful for cleaning it? It has this like... built-in cleaning rod that screws in right under the barrel, and It also has a bunch of strange metal tools whose function is not obvious from their appearance.
     
  21. Hoppy590

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    a gun is an object
    a toaster is an object

    a gun requires background checks and government forms
    a toaster does not.

    whats so easy about it? :p
     
  22. Hoppy590

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    the strange metal tool is a bolt tool. you will find that it works as a screw driver on one end. and a wrench on the other. the wrench is for turning the firing pin. the cuts on the side are for measuring firing pin protrusion. dont worry about that last one, get the basics first
    http://www.7.62x54r.com/MosinID/MosinDisassembly.htm
     
  23. General Geoff

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    Wow, dude.

    Also, how do I de-cock the gun once I've rotated the bolt so that it's ready to fire?
     
  25. General Geoff

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    for what it's worth, that was my first and only take for the video. I haven't completely disassembled the bolt of my Mosin in over a year; if I'd been practicing more, the firing pin disassembly portion would've been smoother and taken less time. :)


    edit; to decock the bolt, you have to pull the trigger. If you want to put less stress on the gun, grasp the crown at the rear of the bolt very firmly and pull back while pulling the trigger; this will allow you to "ease" the bolt into the decocked position.
     

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