I thought I would share a family hierloom with everyone

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My Grandfather was a 25 year old Company commander for the 88'th Division(Blue Devils), Company B, 349'th infantry brigade, when he was redeployed from North Africa to Southern Italy in '44. Supposedly, it was part of a program to get the newer CO's more combat experience, and boy did they get all they wanted.

In the days leading up to the Battle of Monte Cassino, his company was clearing a number of farm houses in the area. He sent two scouts forward to check the house before sending everyone else in, while being somewhat close behind himself. He came up on foxhole containing a German officer who was in the process of lining up a shot on one of his scouts. Not really knowing any German, he drew his Thompson down on him and yelled "Stick 'em up!". He said the German didn't have a clue what he said, but knew damn well what a Thompson pointed at him meant. From this officer, he took and kept his side arm, a luger.

The rest of the story goes, they stormed a German warehouse later on containing boxes of Luger pistols, in which the entire company took one, but when asked by another soldier if he wanted a newer one, he opted to keep the one he captured. On a side note, he didn't care for his 1911(for whatever reason) and never used it again after obtaining this pistol.

It's a standard 1940 production P.08 Luger produced at the Mauser Oberndorf a/N plant. The "42" on the toggle indicates this. Yes, it is the same Mauser plant that put out all those nifty bolt guns that we know and love. From a collector's/monetary standpoint, it has two mismatched parts, the side plate and the takedown lever. It's not in pristine condition by any means, but considering it was never re-blued and what it went through, it's not too bad. Needless to say it's a priceless family heirloom to me.

The holster is in the condition, less a little wear and tear, that he obtained it in. The twine repair on the clasp was supposedly done by the original owner.

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Left side of the receiver

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The manufacture date, 1940 stamped on the receiver

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Part of the grip and the safety mechanism

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Full Top View

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Stampings on the bolt

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Stampings on the magazine

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And another set of Nazi Markings on the right side of the receiver

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I know there's a couple of rust spots on it, but I am afraid to go too crazy with the steel wool on a firearm this age. They most likely appeared during the course of years of storage in a closet of a house VERY near the beach. This thing, to this day, is one of the smoothest shooting pistols I have ever put my hands on.
 
BEAUTIFUL!!

IMHO do NOT go crazy with the cleaning, esp with abrasive steel wool. If you have the means to...get it professionally restored. It will retain the value and possibly even increase it. Good luck!!
 
That is really, really nice. I enjoyed the pictures very much thanks for sharing!

I wonder if he had small hands in that he didn't like the 1911?

It's kind of a toss-up with refinishing the pistol. Most of the time, this will decrease the value of the gun, but on the other hand, you don't want the pitting to get any worse.
 
That's absolutely magnificent, and the story behind it even more so. Many thanks for taking the time to post and share such a heirloom/treasure. :)
 
His exact words about the 1911 were " Every time you shot the darned thing it was like you were pointing towards the sky." The non-existent recoil on the luger is what he liked about it. He was a pretty large man. 6'4" and 250+ when he was in shape.

He died at the age of 83 in '03. So many stories, I wish I had a tape recorder for a lot of them.

One I remember in particular was he found a tripwire somewhere in Italy right at dusk. There were additional men coming up from their rear as well, so he apparently used his ration of TP to mark the wire so the other guys could see it.
 
Great heirloom and story. Thanks for sharing. You can use RIG to stop the rust form getting worse. I wouldn't refinish it either, it's got character.
 
A very nice piece of history there. I too would be very hesitant to do anything to it. There are so many horror stories of people unwittingly destroying both the historical and the monetary value of a collectible. Given the shape it's in, I'd think it has maximum historical collectors value just the way it is.
 
That one will be passed on to my son one day, I can assure you. I believe it's around a $1500 rig as it stands now. It would possibly be in the 3k range if it weren't for a couple of mismatched parts. For obvious reasons, I'd NEVER even consider selling it.

I take it out to the range on Memorial day, oil it up and keep it in the safe the rest of the time.
 
IT WAS ALREADY SAID, but i can't help it. Do Not Clean the rust yourself! You'll turn it into scrap. Have a pro do it if you want to. Very nice family gun. hand it down when you're done. What a wonderful thing to own. History in your hand.
 
A lot of them where built during that time. Its good to know and see that some are all still complete with matching numbers. The original magazine are always important for collectibles.

Nice Piece.
 
Great memento. But I wonder how the parts got replaced? Did your dad have the parts replaced? I can't imagine the German armorer did it.
 
See if you can find the paper that allowed him to bring it home. I have a pistol my Father brought home from WWII, and I was able to find his paperwork, hand-typed in France.
 
Eezox and a paper towel will remove all of the loose rust without doing any harm and penetrate the remaining rust to stop it from progressing.

I have used it on several older guns without steel wool and without problems.

http://www.eezox.com/gun-care.html
 
Yeah.
My school friend's dad was in Italy, The worst theater of the european front. I knew Audie Murphy in the 1960's, he made that WW1 type charge out of the Salerno Pocket over 1/2 mile of flat ground against entrenched Nazies with 20mm's and MGs. I think he mentioned it in his book, something about his friend's head exploding, I could never read that book. Italy was a freaking nightmare, corruption was rampant, rations would reach the front lines minus ciggys, coffee and chocolate. Imagine 90 days in a foxhole, without wool socks and C-rats show-up short coffee and ciggys.
That Luger is a piece of American History, don't matter what it looks like. Don't touch it!
 
That is NICE!! My dad had a luger too, but since he could bring home only 1 handgun, he traded it for a movie camera and brought home a CZ27 instead.:(
 
Monte Cassino

If you get a chance to read about the fighting in Italy, you might appreciate what a horrible time the soldiers had.
I just finished Fatal Decision by Carlo D'Este.
 
Great gun and an even greater story. I have the same gun except all matching. All I know is that Dad's cousin brought it back from Europe after the war but died here in a car accident. Dad's Aunt gave it to him. Dad gave it to me when I got out of college. I have not fired it in over 40 years when I was about 12.
 
Thanks for sharing. A German Luger is just about the last acquisition I would like to make, but at the prices they are bringing it doubtful that it will happen.
 
You ought to check out Lugerforums (http://forum.lugerforum.com/index.php) if you get the chance, for expert advice on how to preserve and care for that puppy. And what a great bunch of guys to boot! They can tell you if it's a "shooter" or a "collector," and its approximate value. The holster, too, is an education in its own right, with countless pages of information regarding preservation of the leather.
 
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