I wanna mess with the squid

[juggler]

Barry is a former SEAL and one of the people I strive to surpass. There are also others on Saturday, who I shoot with, who are better than I am, and they motivate me to do better, but Barry and I like the Marine/Navy competition, and jab each other at every given opportunity. I use a Glock .40, he uses a .45.

I will be taking a new shooter to the range this weekend. New shooter as in he has not been to my club, but he has been shooting longer than I've been walking.

He is a former Marine who was in and out of the Corp before I was born. We struck up a conversation at the hardware store and discovered that we both like and practice IDPA style shooting. The best part is he is a 1911 aficionado.

I run the ConTact shooting matches at our club, which is similar to IDPA. The difference is that we allow the use of anything that you would legally carry in CT......as long as it is concealed and you would feel comfortable/be legal carrying it into a 7-11 you can practice with it.

So I am looking for what I would consider a good cold/surprising/realistic scenario to initiate him.

My example would be this stage. Out in the open, no cover, and two targets. No round count, work both to slide lock.....center mass, head shots whatever.......go to slide lock and then move to the side and reload/cover.

Thoughts?

 

[P95Carry]

So many possibles.

Try this tho - from my last IDPA a week ago.

From start, holstered. On ground is a ''injured person'' (stuffed dummy) ..... on the bleeper - pick up dummy's hand with weak hand (then draw) and drag, whilst running and shooting past T1 and T2 strong hand .... which are at approx 10 feet away. Three on each therefore - 2 com, one head.

Dragging dummy a bit further come to a barrel - take cover, drop dummy, and tac reload - shoot from that two handed to engage two partial no-hit targets T3 and T4 at approx 20 feet distance ... (a blacked left diagonal - no hits in black) - to a round count of four - two on each.

So - only a 10 shot drill (unless you wanna make it Vickers).

Just of course one of many many scenarios but a good challenge.

 

[Paul Gomez]

Shooter starts facing 90-degrees to left of firing line. Start signal involves tossing a beanbag at his primary side arm. This signifies being shot in his 'normal' shooting hand/arm. Turns to identify a simple three target array, must draw and engage with his other hand from his normal carry gear...Additional stressor...Preload shooters magazine with one dummy round [neither first or last in mag], thereby forcing a One Hand Stoppage Reduction as well.

 

[P95Carry]

Holy Moly Paul - can't you come up with something difficult!

Tell ya what - that would be a killer for me!! I have a partial palsy in left shoulder and I can hardly hold a gun up - I have to use strong hand under left elbow and then do best I can. It really sucks and now has to be a priority for practice when I go to range. Feels whimpy and ineffectual - but I do get the shots close to useful. Just feels awful! Not sure at all how I'd manage the draw, let alone the malfunc! Oh my!

Something else to try and master.

 

[Mute]

Ha! Now do all of the above, blindfolded, using only the force.

 

[juggler]

Good ones! I have been working the weak hand drills, but will have to give some thought to the safety of drawing weak hand only. Some of our shooters are pretty green, and I am still having to keep an eye on muzzle directions with a couple.
I like P95's suggestion and will be giving it some thought during the week.
Any other ideas?

 

[Kamicosmos]

if you don't want them to draw, you can have them put their gun on a table, barrel, etc to pick up. Also, have them hold something in their strong arm, something kind of heavy. That way their arm is out of the way and they can't use it like they normally might in weak hand shooting (Putting it in a pockets, pressing to their chest, etc).

Low light stages are fun. Flashlights to illuminate targets. Or, for a funky effect, have the only light be a police car light bar if you have one. For non-cops, shooting with those red and blue lights is a new experience!

 

[Wylycoyte]

Shooter starts facing 90-degrees to left of firing line. Start signal involves tossing a beanbag at his primary side arm. This signifies being shot in his 'normal' shooting hand/arm. Turns to identify a simple three target array, must draw and engage with his other hand from his normal carry gear...Additional stressor...Preload shooters magazine with one dummy round [neither first or last in mag], thereby forcing a One Hand Stoppage Reduction as well.

I disagree on only one point...I think I'd rather see a stun gun or Code Eagle round used as a start signal than the beanbag.

 

[Jeff White]

Wylycoyte said;

I disagree on only one point...I think I'd rather see a stun gun or Code Eagle round used as a start signal than the beanbag.

I really hope that you're not serious about that. Remember the shooter has a live weapon. Might not be very safe your way.

Jeff