I want to be a Gunsmith.......

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Simon B

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ok so i want to be a gunsmith but where do i start? I love hand guns, rifles, hunting, and reloading and really want to get into gun smithing but don't know how. so my question is for all you Gunsmith's out there is how did you start? do you have any recommendation's for dreamers like me? is there an accredited program i should pursue? i look forward to you help and insight.
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There are several gunsmithing schools and I strongly recommend you attend one. Also, some community colleges have machinist courses, which are good but do not cover the areas unique to gunsmithing like a gunsmith school does. Alternatively, you can apprentice to a working gunsmith, but there are a lot more applicants for those jobs than there are jobs.

There is a lot more involved than you might think in becoming a gunsmith; just liking guns is not enough. Some people think all they need is an FFL, a mill bastard file and a screwdriver. Those folks will ruin more guns than they fix, will fail at the business, and will give gunsmiths a bad name; we don't need any more of them.

Do you have any idea about how to run a business? Or do you have a milion dollar inheritance you can afford to lose? Can you keep books? Do you have or can you get a place to run your shop? (No, your home is NOT a good place, even if you can get zoning approval.) Do you have or can you get at least $50,000 for initial tooling and capital? Will you be able to eat and feed your family (if any) while your business builds up? Will your shop be able to comply with local law and all the "alphabet soup" agency rules (EPA, OSHA, SSA, etc., etc.)?

Also consider that, as a working gunsmith, you probably won't have time to shoot or hunt; you will be fixing guns so OTHER people can shoot and hunt. Hunting season is when you make your money, not when you take a vacation.

This site has had that question posed dozens of times; I suggest you do a site search on "gunsmith" and READ the responses from working or retired gunsmiths. Then if you still have questions, come back and ask.

Jim
 
It depends on what you mean by "gunsmith". There are many different fields and levels.

If you intend to just clean guns, mount scopes, and swap barrels on 10/22s, maybe just Duracoat-ing or other finishes, then the internet and books are all you need. There are some good Dis-assembly books out there that can teach a lot.

Maybe accurizing and customizing specific firearms like AR-15 or 1911. There are some week long classes offered for that.

If you are looking to repair or customize ANY firearm that comes in, then a brick-and-mortar school is invaluable. They have the knowledge and the machines, you learn the basics and you learn the why. Once you understand the theory behind everything, you can work on ANY firearm.

I went through the Trinidad State Junior College gunsmithing program and was hired right out of school. I can definitely recommend the TSJC program.

Mr. Keenan brought up many good points. In some situations, though, you wont have to worry about the business end. I am "just" a gunsmith were I work. Eventually I will open my own shop, but right now I don't worry about it.
 
I have found that unless you have some sort of contract work, retail business or something else, gunsmithing will not (in the beginning) be enough to earn your living... most of your potential early customers will be wanting to fix grandpa's .22 or single barrel and are just not willing to pay what it costs to fix such a thing in many cases... a mechanic, plumber, electrician, or other laborer can make 30-60 bucks an hour... but if you spend 3 hours fixing grandpa's single barrel, you can be damned sure the customer isnt going to want to pay you 100-200 bucks that your time was worth.. seeing as it is likely more than the gun is worth...

The money in gunsmithing comes with specialty fields such as accurizing, building custom 1911's and building custom rifles... once you bridge into that field, you can charge what your time is worth because the potential customers will be coming to you based on your reputation that has been passed to them by fellow shooters/competitors....In that case, your time is worth whatever they are willing to pay to get the competitive edge... BUT, you must build that rep...

As to how to learn there are really only two acceptable ways nowadays... either find a Gunsmith who is willing to take you in as an apprentice or go to school...School is the easier and, likely, most accepted route.

The gunsmiths I know... even the best ones, supplement their income with side work.. For instance, a gunsmith friend of mine who does remarkable things with 1911's, builds custom rifles, accurizes rifles, and refinishes case to case (bluing, parkerizing, etc..) also does contract work sandblasting and parkerizing for the CMP.
 
Then there's the blue job you did for Bubba's friend.Now, he has discovered a spot YOU missed or discolored and he wants his entire money back.And if you don't give it back, he slams your name to every other Bubba he can find. That hurts new smiths.
 
In my experience, the thing that hurts new smiths is a combination of arrogance and ignorance. Too many think they know it all, and "SFL" (screwdriver, file, license) is enough to begin work. Most have read just enough to be dangerous. They try to tackle jobs they can't do and have no idea how to approach, ruin guns, and even in some cases make guns dangerous. A case of the latter was the "gunsmith" who worked on 1911's. He got so unhappy about his knife edge sears being damaged by dropping into the half cock notch that he ground off that notch. When his guns went full auto, he was "persuaded" to find another business.

Others have chambered rifles with twist drills because reamers were too expensive, adjusted headspace by grinding the back of the locking lugs, heated bolts white hot while turning down bolt handles, welded on handles that came off the first time the customer opened the bolt, polished sears and created a failure to reset and highly dangerous rifles, cracked receivers removing/replacing barrels, "re-blued" handguns with a torch, installed a military takeoff barrel upside down and cut the stock out for the rear sight, annealed a receiver for drilling holes by heating the whole receiver red hot, drilled a dozen holes in a Winchester Model 71 receiver trying to install a scope, etc., etc.

IMHO, you can learn right or forget it. If you needed heart surgery, would you want a doctor who had only read about the procedure?

Jim
 
There seems to be a shortage of qualified people to work on Colt DA revolvers. I wish I had the know-how and skills to do this work. Talk about money to be made.
 
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One thing I notice about the REALLY good gunsmiths - they are ALWAYS busy, some are very backlogged. One gent in my area is "retired" - his father was a gunsmith and he is, and has been, for most of almost 80 years. His whole shop has US-made equipment (to give you an idea of how old this stuff is). He has made more jigs and rigs for working on guns, has an inventory of parts for guns going back over 100 years, and works when he wants to. That rep for quality didn't come easily or quickly. Be prepared to possibly need another job to make ends meet in the beginning.

Good luck!
 
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