I was almost done with the 700!

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Bought a Remington 700 ADL in 30-06 w/ factory scope. Everytime I brought it to the range, it was all over the place. First it would shoot small groups for around 4-5 rounds, then the groups would be 2 feet over all of a sudden.

Go back to range, redial scope, a few dead center, and then a few over 2 feet.

I was so done. Really, done, 5 range trips in a week and got worse and worse.

Then I figured out the scope got knocked forward about 2 inches. Sportsmans Wharehouse said to bring it in and they would remount and boresight for free!-I can't say enough about how stand up this was of them to do. They did not have to, and they did absolutely stand by their sale to me. (I love the burris rings, they are just so much better looking and stronger than what Remington had on there).

Took back to range, same problem came back within 6 rounds, and scope slid back again.

Brought back to Sportsmans, who after diagnosing the weak rings, upgraded me to burris steel rings. Scope sits a bit higher, and looked so much better. Rings were free! They felt so bad, and said this was the first they saw this happen to.

Went back to range, and finally it looks accurate and consistent. Scope did not move through 7 slow shots, and last shot was in bullseye at 100 yards...when I saw it I decided to walk away as sighting this thing in has been a nightmare!!!
 
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At least you figured it out after the first time! :) Wish I had. Oh well, it could have been much worse I guess.
 
Yeah man, loose rings, base or whatever can drive you nuts. I should say defective not loose.
Look on the bright side - you don't have to changed your screen name to "Wandering Zero".

I have 1 rifle right now that is testing my reslove "Big Time". I'll work it out eventually.
 
The real question is who mounted the scope in the first place---don't go back there!

For grins and chuckles I recommend that anyone with a scope on a gun get themselves a F.A.T WRENCH Torque driver.F.A.T. WRENCH

Wheeler also makes a great set of bits, adapters and hand pieces for most any gunsmithing job.
 
Glad you got it fixed. So, so, often it is the scope or mounts or both. Very few bolt rifles will not shoot acceptable groups with a consistent shooter and a good scope.
 
Glad everything worked out for you. Two lessons learned (hopefully):

1.) When a scoped rifle is not shooting consistently first check the scope mounting for tightness. This is likely the number one cause of wild inaccuracy!

2.) When equipping a rifle with a scope do not cheap out on the bases and rings! The best scope in the world attached to the most mechanically accurate rifle in the world, shooting the most accurate ammo in the world is still going to shoot like garbage with rings and bases that don't do the job.
 
When equipping a rifle with a scope do not cheap out on the bases and rings!
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Actually I have found that most any company with a recognizable name makes pretty decent rings and mounts. The only ones that I have ever had any trouble with (barring abuse) are ones from China (particularly the ones that come free with low-end optics). While I like to get better rings and bases for important rifles (those used for LR target shooting, DG hunting, and on important hunts), I have found that even the cheapest Weaver works pretty darn good. That said, I would be willing to bet that those Remington branded rings came straight from China and fall into the junk category (proving that it is generally best not to use rings that come "free" with anything, Ruger being the only notable exception that I can think of).

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I have never had any luck with aluminum scope rings. Frankly if you are so pathetically weak and out of shape that you can't stand the thought of a few extra ounces for steel rings and bases you aren't likely to get out of your truck when you hunt anyway so what does it really matter?
 
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I have never had any luck with aluminum scope rings.
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The best aluminum rings I've ever used (four sets and counting) are the ones from Seekins Precision but they are far from entry level cheap. Aluminum one-piece QD mounts such as those from LaRue and GG&G are also excellent but again, not cheap. The theme here is that you get what you pay for. If you buy crap made in China then "goo ruck"!

Yo Mama, you need to take your Remington 700 off the "New Remingtons suck" list.

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I have never had any luck with aluminum scope rings. Frankly if you are so pathetically weak and out of shape that you can't stand the thought of a few extra ounces for steel rings and bases you aren't likely to get out of your truck when you hunt anyway so what does it really matter?
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Woah, woah, woah...those ounces can add up if you are building a rifle for long treks in rough country, it just depends upon your needs. If you don't watch it those mere oz. will quickly transform into hefty lbs. BTW, there are many good Al. mounts and rings out there, you just have to invest in good stuff from a reputable company. Again I say, even a lowly Al. Weaver ring (or base) has yet to fail me unless abuse was a factor. I don't typically use them anymore because they aren't the best looking way to affix a scope, but that doesn't mean they don't get the job done with boring regularity.

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I don't consider Weavers to be "cheap" though. Inexpensive sure, but not cheap.

As for light weight rifles, I understand the concept and where I live we don't do much hunting in tree stands, so I do see the value. You pretty much have to go out and find animals out in the great open spaces in western South Dakota, or Wyoming. So I understand all about humping a rifle and other gear around, I do it when I hunt, and I spent a total of over 6 years in the USMC as an infantryman doing the same thing with even more weight.

Now all that said, I'm not sure that the extra weight savings of aluminum rings and bases (high quality ones) is really needed when you are already carrying a light synthetic stocked rifle with a pencil thin barrel, wearing a nice trim scope on top of it. If you haven't cut weight on the major large components then trying to save an ounce or two on scope rings is kind of silly. If your rifle weighs 8lbs already, and then you stick a scope on top that is big enough to make out the great nebula in Orion...... you are not going to have a lightweight all the sudden with aluminum scope rings.
 
good to see youre back on zero, it stinks when buckshot looks better than your rifle shots, I've been there brother!
 
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