Identification of a '67 Model 94 (and price check!)

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jshudson

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I was offered this rifle today for $400. Seller says it's a 1967, but I don't recognize the version with the large handle. Can anyone identity this?

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Standard lever has been cut, poorly reshaped, rewelded, and polished.

$400?

Fuggedaboutit!!

rc
 
With the bubba'd lever and the worn finish, I wouldn't pay more than $150-175. Plus the fact that it is a post '63, makes it an not very desired model. It would certainly do for a truck gun, or one to loan out to a friend. But even if it was perfect, it wouldn't be worth that much.
 
I just bought a 1973 model 94 in 30-30 that looks better for 200 while I was standing in my drive way loading my target stands in my pick up. Mine shows use but surprisingly it still had the hood on the front sight, that's usually the first thing to get discarded. Gonna make it a cast boolit shooter.
 
How can you see that well enough to tell that loop has been reshaped, looks like a standard wedge style loop to me...........
 
I'd jump in to say there is no such thing as a Winchester "standard wedge style loop", but I'm always willing to be educated. Do you know of any other examples of this type of lever?
 
I also think the lever was modified not standard but it actually looks kinda handy in that shape. I really don't think that is beat up enough to be a truck gun, the wear looks to be about normal for that age 94 and the wood looks decent from what I can see.

I wouldn't pay 400 for it but I know it would sell for close to that retail around here. I'd definitly pay 200-250, assuming the lever IS solidly done.
 
As for the '64 thing, only collectors care. Any lever before the cross bolt safety will be more desireable than after. The post '64's run quite well, nobody has done a 10,000 round evaluation to prove anything more than handfiled parts are simply overpriced. Entirely why Winchester started stamping some to stay in business.

No deer will ever tell the difference, whether covered in brass tacks or handled with a large lever.

Funny how pre '64 Winchesters are revered, but a well made Paki copy of the Enfield is crap. Obviously too much of a good thing? Handfitted parts requiring a gunsmith's exacting attention to get right really means poor fabrication and QC in production, requiring a lot of labor to correct.

In other words, collectors are willing to pay more for a company's production method that was pushing them to the brink of bankruptcy. Why that's considered "high quality" when it's blatantly poor initial workmanship will remain a mystery.
 
How can you see that well enough to tell that loop has been reshaped,
Because it was so poorly done it was obvous.

You could see the top of the lever was bent down and didn't lay flat against the tang.

You could see a flaw or slag pocket in the weld where the "wedge" extension was added.

You could see it had been polished and was no longer blued.

And Winchester never ever made such a thing.

Enough evidence for me!

rc
 
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