If the AWB dies, do you think any gun makers will still try to go PC?

[Lone_Gunman]

and choose not to sell mags that hold more than 10 rounds to "civilians" anyway?

I think there is a chance certain companies might decide to market full cap mags to LE only. It wouldnt be illegal for us to have them, but would probably drive up the cost, and make it at least a little harder for us to find a distributor or dealer who will sell to private citizens (kind of like Winchester Ranger ammo is LEO).

 

[rock jock]

In the end, the gun business is still a business and those that don't offer a product that the public wants will go the way of the dinosaur.

 

[faustulus]

Ruger has gone on record (after BR death) and said it would not sell anything but 10 round mags to civilians no matter what happens to the AWB.

 

[Salpalinja]

Are they mentally retarded

 

[tiberius]

Supply & demand.... if the gun manufacturer decides not to sell full capacity magazines, then someone else will.

 

[Waitone]

Gun companies will do just exactly what they've always done. Assess what their customer base is willing to pay for. Provide those products. Live with the consequences. Reevaluate and adjust.

Ruger wants to play the game? Someone else will provide. After a while Rugers customers will say, "Now why is it that I purchase a gun from Ruger, then I have to go somewhere else to get the mag I want? THWI--I'll just purchase a ****** and be done with the hassle."

 

[stevelyn]

And here we were angry w/ S&W for the HUD agreement when in reality Bill Ruger sold us all down the river on national tv with his support for 10 rnd mag restrictions.
The Second Amendment enumerates an individual right that is unconditional as to the type of firearm or the type of recreational or defensive activity it's used for. The only condition that needs to be met is that the person possessing them be a law-abiding citizen (resident). It's an all or nothing issue, either it protects the right of persons to keep and bear arms or it don't. Cosemetics and magazine capacities are irrelevant. Compromise gets us nothing but more unConstitutional restrictions. Firearm manufacturers need to choose which side they are on and stand with gun owners fighting against the errosion of our rights. If they don't they are hurting themselves.

Do I own a Ruger product? Yes I do. And I happen to like it, but I won't spend money on another one unless the perceived pandering to the other side stops. I'll just buy from a manufacturer who supports my 2nd Amendment rights.

Dear Ruger,

I'm the firearms officer for my department. Until this policy changes, Hades will freeze and the Stanley Cup will be played on ice covering the River Styx before I ever consider or recommend having my department test or evaluate Ruger pistols for department issue.

 

[tiberius]

Ruger has gone on record (after BR death) and said it would not sell anything but 10 round mags to civilians no matter what happens to the AWB

faustulus,

I wasn't aware of this. Do you have a refernce for this quote?

Thanks,

 

[Tamara]

stevelyn

...and comments like "No honest man needs a handgun smaller than a canned ham."

Before you go quoting that in a letter to Ruger, Bill never said it. It was a joke.

 

[Lone_Gunman]

Does anyone know if Bill Ruger actually made a statement indicating somethin along the lines of "no honest man needs more than 10 rounds"??

I have hear that attributed to him, but dont know if it is true or not.

 

[cameroneod]

Its a fact

I read it on a site from someone that was trying to stop the original AWB. Ruger thought that it was a good compromise. Ill see if I cant dig up the site that I first read it at.

BTW- First post here. Hello everyone.

 

[Kharn]

Ruger said it was 15 rounds, not 10. The Antis decided on the 10 round figure.

Kharn

 

[Esky]

Good to see ya!

Welcome aboard, cameroneod!


Esky
who knows nothing about what Ruger said, on this or any other occasion, so will keep mouth shut for a change

 

[cameroneod]

Found it

Why Bill Ruger is a traitor to Americas gun owners.

 

[cameroneod]

This is the one I was originally talking about

Father of the Clinton administrations high capacity magazine ban.

 

[stevelyn]

I have edited my previous post deleting the "canned ham" comments and retract the quote I attributed to Bill Ruger.
I wish to apologize for making a statement that I didn't independently confirm with a simple search.
That being said, I stand by my comments on the edited post.

Steve

 

[gun-fucious]

You would think Ruger would change their tune now that Feinstein has named the Mini 14 an assault rifle. Obviously making a deal with the antis did not exempt them from the assault.

 

[faustulus]

tiberius,

I have seen it in print twice, the last time was in a magazine review following the most recent SHOT show, but I don't have the mag (OK I was reading it at Kroger -- it had a 1911 on the cover ) The other place I saw it was on the internet from a guy who did an overview of the shot show. I spoke with two representatives at the show myself and both indicated, although didn't come right out and say, that the suspected Ruger's policy would be not to allow civilian sales of hicap mags. If I find the article I will post it here.

 

[clange]

Ruger will never have another sale from me then. If i had been old enough to remember the stuff about mag limits they wouldnt have gotten the one sale they did. Screw em.

 

[gunsmith]

heck & darnation!

"You would think Ruger would change their tune now that Feinstein has named the Mini 14 an assault rifle. Obviously making a deal with the antis did not exempt them from the assault."

If I had known sooner about Ruger supporting
the anti's I wouldn't have just bought
a sp101...damm,I really like the little wheelgun
too,very concealable!

 

[sw442642]

Ruger may not have said the canned ham comment but I once read in a Guns and Ammo annual that he developed a very small prototype 22 semiauto pistol. It looked liked the Japanese Nambu (sp?). The author, might have been a Gary James, said the gun was not produced as Ruger found it to be TOO concealable.

Ruger doesn't make 10 round mags for the Mini-14 anymore for civilians, there are only 5 rounders in current production.

Ruger has the technology to produce J frame sized guns, slim compact semis in 9mm or 40 SW. It is a hot market. Look at the Kahrs, small Glocks, XDs, SW is making compact SW 99.

Why don't they want a piece of that? They are PC.

So to go to the main question - I think Ruger will stay PC. That might put new sales of their semi pistols at a disadvantage as I would assume that other pistol makes would go hi-cap immediately and imports would soar.

 

[El Tejon]

Lone, Colt (the lug) and Ruger (Bill Ruger's unwavering support for gun control) went PC before 9/94. Both can burn in bankruptcy court for all I care. With "friends" like these we do not need Sarah Brady.