If the SHTF when your not home!?

[DontBurnMyFlag]

Think about it. I go to school for 8 hours a day on MWF (I commute) I then go to martial arts class for 2 hours and drive an hour home. I am out of my fortress of solitude from 8:00 am to 930pm.

Im sure we are all working men and women hear as well. If we cannot carry weapons at work or school or have access to our BOB, what are your plans? SEPTA is on strike in Philadelphia today and it took my 2 hours to get to school. In a disaster you can only imagine traffic would be worse and people more unpleasant. Even a walk home from work, maybe 3 miles or less could have its difficulties and dangers. You may have to walk through an unforgiving neighborhood or the wilderness. Or worst of all, your home may might be destroyed while you are at work or school or the store. These are all things we need to take into account when we are preparing.

I have offered some suggestions and I want everyone to re-evaluate thier plans for this situation. I am sure some of you have, so I am sorry to reitterate.

1. Have basic supplies in your car. Something replaceable if stolen. A minimalist BOB would do the trick.

2. IF your state allows this, have a trunk gun or a gun in the glovebox. Only if you think it will be safe and wont be stolen or if your willing to take the chance, go for it.

3. Map routes to your house from work or school or whereever. Make routes to your friends and families houses as well.

I have more and will post them later...however Im late for Class

 

[hso]

Why wouldn't you have a BOB? That's the time that you would. If you're at home you have plenty of supplies. If you're away from home you should have your 72hr BOB. Having a gun is only part of it.

 

[JamisJockey]

Hiking boots, dry socks. Extra clothing items, seasonly. Poncho. Backpack with basic supplies.
I see it as a 'get home' kit.

 

[Shipwreck]

Problem is that it is like 1 million degrees in the summertime inside of a car. I can see packing water and clothes, but you are kinda limited compared to what you can store at home.

 

[NMshooter]

Figure out which of your items you can have on your person or with you all the time, and do so.

No reason for a student not to have a few useful things stuffed into the pack.

 

[DontBurnMyFlag]

NM shooter I couldnt agree more. Here is what I carry to school everyday besides books and crap.

I have a leatherman with all the goodies
1 folding knife
medical kit in backpack (in m16 pouch for ALICE gear)
I always have a water bottle and some snacks (candy, energy bar, chips)

I wear running shoes, jeans and a sweatshirt or military jacket when its cold. Im like a cartoon character, I hardly wear anything different.

However, I go to school in a rough neighborhood and cars are broken into alot. Thats why I take my stuff with me. I cannot keep my BOB in my car at school because I have only one and I am financially unable to build another.

 

[Mannlicher]

wow, I don't think anyone ever thought of this before

 

[ctdonath]

That's why there's a bugout bag in each car.

That's why my briefcase includes a water filter, compass, umbrella, ASP baton, lightstick, flashlight, etc., and I wear boots, carry a knife, wear a leather jacket when appropriate, etc.

Survival isn't just something you occasionally plan for, it's a lifestyle.
Ultimately, and without being wierd about anything, SHTF should ideally be met with "so?" Be prepared.

 

[ctdonath]

What's wrong with a car being hot? Keep the pack out of the sun. Rotate the MREs & water a bit more often (as in: consume them, replace them).

JamisJockey is right: the pack should be a "get home" kit.

 

[browningguy]

Browning .40 S&W High Power with two mags (carry gun)
Bersa .380 BUG with two mags
Briefcase with Keltec SUB2000 (Glock 17 Magwell) with four 30 round mags

That's my get back home kit. It's very rare for me to be more than 20 miles from home during a normal week.

 

[Fudgie Ghost]

I commute (via commuter rail) to Manhattan every day. But I'm not always in the office all day. In fact I am out at work sites quite a bit. So, I can't have a weapon,---- if I prepare a BOB at my office, there's a good chance I'll be somewhere else when the solid waste hits the air propeller.

So-- I'm going to have to rely on the three flashlights, screwdriver and swiss army knife I keep in my briefcase. . . . and in the power of prayer.

 

[Biker]

To be honest, when away, I have a a Taurus 450/5 rounds of .45 LC, a Gerber Mark1 and a Leatherman - I'm usually on my Harley.

 

[hso]

Since you've got a school limitation and can't leave anything of value in your car (jeez, I couldn't live in a place like that ) try this.

Strip most of the food and water out of the BOB. You can't have a gun so don't worry about it. Focus on the survival supplies. If the time comes walk into the nearest place that sells water and snacks and get all the water you can carry and all the snickers bars you can stuff into your bag and get on the move.

Wear what you can with as much as allowed in your pockets.

 

[bcochran]

addition

Most people have a form of commercial storage. It can be near school or work. Simply slip in another box with [fill in the blank] and you can be good to go.

 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Comfortable walking shoes and socks will go a long way towards getting you back home in a bad situation. If you can walk 5 miles comfortably you'll probably be alright.

The right clothing also helps, especially in the winter. A gore tex rain jacket over a fleece jacket will see you through any sort of weather. Keep a good warm hat stuffed in one of the pockets. Maybe throw some essentials (lighter, knife, cash, map, snack, etc) in another pocket. Make a habit of carrying a water bottle around with you.

Learn to rely on your wits and skills more than your gear.

 

[ArgentineSteel]

I keep a get back home BOB at work, and I also keep food here for an extended stay of a couple days, although we are not allowed to exercise our 2nd amendment rights. I usually have comfortable shoes in the truck along with water, a leatherman, jackets, hat and tools. A map is also a key resource.

I've thought about plans in case of crisis. Most involve contingencies. Will I be able to get to the truck, if I do will I be able to drive home, if I can how likely is it that the bridges will still be up? ...

Plans are different for everyone in every situation. What is the likely situation in your case, what do you need to plan for?

 

[Too Many Choices!?]

SHTF and I'm not at home?

That's what the AR-15pistol PDW, with 2-30 rounders is for silly ... Concealed handgun license and large smg/type handgun, firing a rifle caliber, that can be broken in half with a 30 round mag in place, fits in a backpack or gym-type bag, can shoot 100yds easily, has less recoil but more stopping power/ammo selection than a 9mm pistol, and UNLIMITED optics adaptability is definitely a good thing.. Add the facts that the extra space in the bag helps with the other SHTF needs/supplies , plus you(read as: I ) can carry my Glock 23 .40, on me ready for immediate action if necessary, while being able to retreat(read as: run like hell!!) to cover while retrieving, then assembling said Large Handgun from the bag, chamber a round, spin the dot on for ambient light conditions, and fire my PDW in less than 30-45 seconds(that's once I am secure somewhere with adequate cover and adding in,"The Pucker Factor", )..

PS- I keep the pins pushed out on the PDW, when broken down. One less step in the assembly process, and spinning my dot forward two clicks will work for very bright light, while spinning it backwards three, will cover ,"Pitch Black", to ,"Overcast", and pretty instinctive...

Too Many Choices!?(and the BOB, PDW combo is definitely one of my favorites....)

 

[DelayedReaction]

The first thing you should do is start with what you carry, and go outward from there. For example, I almost always carry 8 items on me:

Surefire Light (with batteries reversed to ensure they don't drain), Pilot G2 Pen, Wallet, Pocket Microtorch, Spyderco Police folder, Leaterman Supertool, cellphone, and keys.

I typically wear sturdy clothes and carry a lightweight waterproof jacket with me. Since my job involves a lot of dirty work (I'm a researcher working with explosives and buried mines) I can wear it most of the time. A good pair of boots like hiking boots is also helpful, and will save you wear and tear on your feet as well.

Eventually I plan on getting a sealable hardcase and storing my backpack in it. I'm getting into backpacking in an attempt to enjoy the outdoors once again, so I plan on keeping the backpack ready to go inside my trunk. The sealed hardcase will prevent moisture and other elements from causing any problems. A separate container will store the fuel, water, spare food, and an all-weather change of clothes (including boots and hiking socks).

The plan is to be able to literally drive anywhere and camp for a few days.

 

[Winnisimmet]

Suppose then that SHTF will have to go on without me?

Suppose then that SHTF will have to go on without me?

 

[Winnisimmet]

Then too, I have my SHTF outfit for city wear

Should SHTF when I'm not home, with this special outfit slipped on, I can just blend in until reaching my stash of goods.