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I'd just use our existing constitution and tweak a bit.

I'd eliminate voting for anyone receiving unearned benefits from the public treasury.

I'd put some easy to understand examples at the end of each amendment in the bill of rights.
 
Any clauses or articles that are ambiguous should be refined to mean precisely what the Founding Fathers considered them to mean.
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Here, here.
 
New Constitution for my country?

Exactly the same one we have now.

Only conceivable modifications:
1. "The above words mean what they plainly say. Anyone insisting they mean anything else shall be immediately tarred and feathered."
2. "All points of law shall expire after 10 years, unless explicitly and individually re-authorized. Mass re-authorizations are not allowed."
 
The rights of the people to do as they please on private property so long as they are not hurting in any way another person shall not be infringed in any manner or to any degree.

The freedom of communication of the people shall not be infringed in any manner or to any degree.

The government must respond to any petitions it receives from the people.

If the government violates any of these laws, the people are under no obligations to obey the laws of the government and it is their civil duty to alter or overthrow it.
 
Some great suggestions for sure, but I think a few of you missed my point. I asked for Constitutions used to found a brand new country, not to fix the country we have now. I was hoping for ideas from a clean slate. Like one poster said, keeping our constitutions makes assumptions like, the country will be a union of states, etc. Anyhow, it is fun to think about.

Zookrider
 
I have a question for those saying only goverment employs and military get medical help. What about an individual that gets a medical problem and cant work. But needs doctors and surgery to have them live. Do you leave them to die a horrable death. Very few people in the USA could afford long term medical help if they cant work, and are not getting help from the goverment.


And for welfare what about the poeple who are disabled and cant work. Is it too bad you have a gentic disorder and cant do anything about it but please starve to death and wither in pain intill you die. They cant work, cant get money, cant buy there drugs, cant see doctor, so they die. Maybe they have family but the family cant afford to offer enough money to help the disabled person:scrutiny:

I am not saying wellfare is great but there are some who truely need it to live. And its not by them being lazy.
 
mindwip:
In my country, if you wereconcerned about sick people that can't afford to pay for medical care, you would be free to donate your money and time to help them.

Nobody would be allowed to coerce people into handing over their resources to anyone else involuntarily, no matter how noble the cause (no involuntary taxes, conscription, jury duty, etc.).
 
So then millions would die in your country, or be suffering greatly. I dout that there would be enough money in donation to support all those people 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
 
I think that if people weren't giving up half their income to various taxes, they could afford to be pretty generous. Also, without all the bureaucratic government middlemen, donations could go a lot further.

Even if I'm wrong, I still view involuntary taxation as theft. The only difference between revenuers and racketeers is that the revenuers will try to convince you they are acting morally before they break your kneecaps.

If your cause is just and noble -be honest and try to convince me to help. Don't rob me.
 
Mindwip,
Most people do not exist in a social vacuum with nobody between them and the federal government.
There are very few people who truly need medical care who do not have any other social support. Most people have active family, friends, church, or other social supports to lean on; bypassing those to go straight to the feds abuses taxpayers.

There is a huge gap between those truly in medical need with no other recourse, and mothers calling 911 'cuz Bobby has a boo-boo (yes, it happens - a lot more often than you think). An awful lot of people are perfectly capable of footing their own medical bill when they take a good honest look at what actually needs doing, and what personal behaviors must change to minimize the cost. Too many are there because they will get ideal care for next-to-nothing to treat self-induced problems. Too many are getting premium treatment only because someone else will pay for it. Most people don't need most medical care dolled out; yes some of it is vital for survival, but an awful lot of it is way above sustinence level.

Fact is: there is no hospital in the country which will turn away a genuine medical case just because of inability to pay. They WILL treat you and get you back on your own; fair, nay generous, payment arrangements can be made, even if it's $5/month for life.

People need to care for themselves, their families, their friends, their associates, and even strangers out of generosity. Gov't-provided healthcare/welfare should only and truly be a last-resort measure.

BTW: an awful lot of welfare (broadly speaking) is "needed" because the gov't makes self-care unavailable. Minimum wage, employment regulations, insurance requirements, liability, property taxes, etc. all contribute to making people unable to attain minimal self-sufficiency. Get the law out of the way and let people care for themselves.

And stop with the extreme heartstring-pulling cases. Yes there are some - they are the tiny minority. Most people would do fine if motivated to provide for themselves instead of sucking the public teat.
 
Keith,
I concur. I always put it as "nobody would ever elect me", which does translate to "if I did, I wouldn't be breathing long."
 
act is: there is no hospital in the country which will turn away a genuine medical case just because of inability to pay. They WILL treat you and get you back on your own; fair, nay generous, payment arrangements can be made, even if it's $5/month for life.
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Well yes and no, they will treat you if your sick for life threating stuff right there and then, but they wont give you post hospital care or meds, or even all the treatment you need to stay alive in the future. They are only mandated to stop you from dieing and stableize you, this is far from good treatment in some cases. If you dont get your meds or doctor care during the week then you end up in the hospital every week every month-lupus/aid is a good case in point here. Sure you may get sick and they will stop you from dieing but with out meds and doctors on a daily bases you end up in the hospital about once a week. A person with lupus could easly need over 1 million dollars in a short amount of time to live (1 or 2 years) can your family pay that much, not all familys can. Of course you can get medical ins. but they will not cover everything. About payment plans its morfe then 5 a month its all the meds you need to pay for after the hospital and doctor vists


and mothers calling 911 'cuz Bobby has a boo-boo
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I am not talking about a little cut. Never was.


BTW: an awful lot of welfare
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I am only talking about those who have a disablity not those who are lazy, i agree with you. About this area. Also about min wage and stuff

Too many are there because they will get ideal care for next-to-nothing to treat self-induced problems
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Again i said genetic problems not self-induced

People need to care for themselves, their families, their friends, their associates, and even strangers out of generosity. Gov't-provided healthcare/welfare should only and truly be a last-resort measure.
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I agree with you there. i was asking to the poeple who said NO help should be given. With your comment you your self say "Gov't-provided healthcare/welfare should only and truly be a last-resort measure." Thats what i am talking about. Too those who only need it.

And stop with the extreme heartstring-pulling cases. Yes there are some - they are the tiny minority
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Well yes they might be the minority but with 300 million poeple a small minority is a lot. These are not extreme at all, last i looked there are alot of people in the usa who have disablity proplems that prevent them from working. 1.4 mill have lupus and 900,000 have aids/hiv sorry but that just 2 types of disablitys and there are many more including mental disorders. I dont think of that as small.

Heres more data http://www.infouse.com/disabilitydata/disability/1_1.php
An estimated 19.4% of noninstitutionalized civilians in the United States, totaling 48.9 million people, have a disability. Almost half of these people (an estimated 24.1 million people ) can be considered to have a severe disability. Granted the way they put this you dont know what a svere disablity is.

http://www.joniandfriends.org/disability_stats.php
About 9 million people of all ages are disabled to the point of needing personal assistance for everyday activities.
Again this is not extreme.
 
Thanks for answering my question. Thats what i was wondering. You can do what ever you want in your country i was just wondering what you would do about people in that situation. Thanks for answering it.
 
I would immediately and instantly abolish all rule and law, and then dissolve my country. 100% rule of nature.

Wolves have lived in harmony with the world for eons. We are the only animals weak enough to need a "country".
 
Wolves have lived in harmony with the world for eons. We are the only animals weak enough to need a "country".
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And clothes, and guns, and cars, and computers, and cooked food, and refined sugar, and pizza, and fireplaces, and and and...

Gonna ban all that stuff too?
 
And clothes, and guns, and cars, and computers, and cooked food, and refined sugar, and pizza, and fireplaces, and and and...

Gonna ban all that stuff too?
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You can ban all that stuff as long as you dont ban pizza. Liveing as wolves would be great, specially if you could turn into one.
 
No private bank shall be allowed to create money. Such an act is the pervue of the government alone and is hereby granted to the government by the people.

There shall be no direct, unapportioned tax on the labor and/or income of citizens.

Civil rights violations knowingly committed by an individual are hereby punishable by life imprisonment. Civil rights violations knowingly committed by a government are punishable by death.

The right to self-defense is hereby protected and the tools by which a citizen might defend themselves, will never be limited by legislation.

No person shall profit from a crime.

The rights of self-determination as it relates to ones own body shall never be infringed.

The right of any individual or group thereof to enter into a free, informed exchange of goods and services is hereby protected and shall never be infringed.

The individual right to own and possess property is hereby protected and shall never be infringed.

The system of government shall be a judicial system, a body of representatives and of an executive branch consisting of three equally powerful heads of state working on a system of majority rule. The judicial branch must be elected by the representatives with at least 2/3 majority. The representatives will be selected from the populace of adult citizens in good standing. Service is mandatory and no person may serve more than 2 terms of more than 4 years each. (checks and balances would work similar to what was intended BEFORE Marbury v. Madison)

The freedom to practice religion is understood to be a private matter and is hereby protected, but will have no place in the workings of government. It is understood that a wall of separation should exist between church and state. The laws of this nation are based not upon any religion, but upon principles of liberty and freedom.

I'll think of more later...

the right to vote may only be excercised once the prospective voter demonstrates an understanding of the bill of rights. A non-discriminatory test shall be administered to determine competence.

Voting shall be manadatory and ballots mailed to citizens living outside the country. If a citizen fails to vote, their voting rights are suspended for one year. A citizen may elect to abstain from voting, but must indicate such on the ballot. A citizen who chooses not to vote will not be prevented from voting in the coming year.

All citizens are equal and discrimination based on religion, sex, sexual prefernce, skin color or any personal belief is a violation of the sovreign individuals civil rights.

Civil Unions shall be made available to any adult couple of sound judgement. Marriage is a private institution and is never to be regulated by government. Marriage is non-binding in a legal sense and only civil unions shall be recognized in a court of law.

Military forces are hereby permitted by the people, but only for defense of the country. Any other use must be authorized by 3/4 majority in both congress and senate as well as be ratified by the office of the executives. Such other uses must also be reviewed by the judiciary within 30 days after approval by the executives.

-edited- Enterprise right edited to further protect citizens per DocZinn's suggestion.
 
The right to enterprise is hereby protected and shall never be infringed.
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"The right of any individual or group thereof to enter into a free, informed exchange of goods and services is hereby protected and shall never be infringed."

I do want the government to be able to stop people from fraudulently selling a product as something that it is not. "Informed" means if you tell me it's NyQuil and it's peanut oil, it wasn't an informed exchange on my part, and you have no right to do that.
 
What we have now would be perfect if it were harder to corrupt.

#1. There will be no election campaigns. Equal slots of time will be alotted to all candidates who wish to state their positions publicly.

#2. "Campaign Contributions" and "Lobbiest Donations" are outlawed as treasonable offences that corrupt a government for the people.

Seriously...why is this allowed? It is absolutely assanine that votes can be bought under any guise, let alone via a (often) public and legal means. Am I wrong?
 
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