(IL) Dad shot intruder outside daughter’s room (charges pending vs dad)

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Police: Dad shot intruder outside daughter’s room

By Virginia Groark
Tribune staff reporter
Published June 6, 2003, 1:47 PM CDT

Franklin Park police and the Cook County state's attorney's office are to meet this afternoon to decide if charges should be brought against a village resident who fatally shot and killed a neighbor who broke into his home Thursday night, authorities said.

Police also are trying to determine if the resident had a firearm owner's identification card for the .45-caliber semi-automatic weapon he allegedly fired, fatally wounding Steven Langendorf, 24, of the 3000 block of North Gustav Street in the western suburb.

Around 10 p.m., the man, his wife and their 13-year-old daughter heard a noise outside their home on the 3000 block of North Calwagner Avenue, Franklin Park Police Chief Randall Petersen said.

Shortly afterward, Langendorf forced his way through a window in the daughter's bedroom, where she had been finishing her homework, Petersen said. While his wife called 911, the homeowner grabbed his gun and confronted Langendorf in a hallway outside the teenager's bedroom.

The resident fired two warning shots, and when Langendorf continued to approach, he shot him in the neck, Petersen said. No one else was injured in the incident.

Police arrived at the home and found Langendorf lying on the hallway floor. He was taken to Gottlieb Memorial Hospital, Melrose Park, where he was pronounced dead at 10:25 p.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Langendorf's home is located diagonally and across the alley from the one he allegedly invaded. Petersen said he did not think the two families were friends but added, "They must have known each other at least by sight."

Petersen said Langendorf did not have an arrest record.

"There's nothing," the chief said. "It doesn't fit."

A family friend said Langendorf went to a local high school and college and worked for a rental car company. He was engaged to be married.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-030606shooting,1,5003658.story?coll=chi-news-hed
 
There's a 13 year old girl for whom they won't be issuing an Amber alert and find her nude body in a creek somewhere after being sexually assaulted and murdered.

I'm sure he's a nice neighbor, just like most of the other "nice' neighbors who often seem to end up doing these crimes.
 
Superficially at least it would appear justified .... except......

Not the best state for such an event and .... seems the intruder guy was unarmed. In my book tho ... no probs .... someone breaks in ..... they are looking for trouble.

Have a feeling a tad more info would be useful before making a final decision ..... tho hope it goes OK for the Dad..... the intruder was pretty damned stupid, and what difference does having no record make .... duh ...... does anyone think only those with records do these things? All perps have to start somewhere.:rolleyes:
 
I had a friend who married one of those "nice guys who keep to them selves",

he went to our church, seemed nice enough, they got married, everything seemed peachy - oops, until the cops caught him in a ladies bedroom (uninvited). He tried to say he smelled smoke or something, but there had been a lot of prowler calls and they had him red handed.

Just saying - some people have wome weird twist and they dont all walk around drooling and talking to themselves. Most seem normal on the surface.
 
I am sooooo glad I live in Oklahoma.

Section 1289.25 - Use of Deadly Force During Unlawful Entry of Dwelling-Affirmative Defense-Civil Immunity (aka the "Make my Day" law)

A. The Legislature hereby recognizes that the citizens of the State of Oklahoma have a right to expect absolute safety within their own homes.

B. Any occupant of a dwelling is justified in using any degree of physical force, including but not limited to deadly force, against another person who has made an unlawful entry into that dwelling, and when the occupant has a reasonable belief that such other person might use any physical force, no matter how slight, against any occupant of the dwelling.

C. Any occupant of a dwelling using physical force, including but not limited to deadly force, pursuant to the provisions of subsection B of this section, shall have an affirmative defense in any criminal prosecution for an offense arising from the reasonable use of such force and shall be immune from any civil liability for injuries or death resulting from the reasonable use of such force.

D. The provisions of this section and the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, Sections 1 through 25 of this act, shall not be construed to require any person using a pistol pursuant to the provisions of this section to be licensed in any manner.
 
Seems to me if someone is not deterred by two warning shots and keeps coming at you, they aren't friendly. I don't care about the disparity of force in this case. What if the intruder had disarmed the father and used the gun to kill the father?

If you break in to someone's home, you forfeit a lot of rights. If you continue to advance on someone who has brandished a weapon, you are just plain suicidal.

My 2 cents...
-Pytron
 
where's N.O.W? where's the TV camera's

the n y post would call this guy a vigilante :fire:
there should be demostrations in front of DA's office
if they decide to prosecute.:cuss:
big signs saying police promote perversity:mad:
(please note I have respect for police & know they have difficult
job,but this is insane!)
this is just as insane as the bodega & ron dixon naval vet case
in ny city...
can there be a class action lawsuit to end this senseless bull hockey?
if you live in ny or chicago you should not call police
when you shoot the rapist in your childrens room,just chop him up and feed to fido:banghead:
 
No, no, no, no, NO. You chaps simply don't get it!

It is NOT against the law to defend yourself or your child in Illinois. It is only against the law to possess the firearm you USE to defend yourself without begging and receiving the permission of the government.

Hey, wait a minute--you actually apply to the State Police, so maybe it's not "the government" at all, technically speaking.


I don't know how Agricola keeps this up. It's exhausting.
 
there is something fishy about this story. FOID card information is available on LEADS. Any peace officer can run him through the computer and find out if he has a valid FOID almost instantly. So I don't understand why they are "trying to determine" if he had a FOID.

The report also doesn't mention the father's name. But it does give the intruder's name.

If the reprt is accurate (what are the chances of that?) it sounds like a perfectly legal self defense shooting.

I would bet that the father doesn't have a FOID and the State's Attorney is weighing the political fallout if he charges him.

I wish people would stop judging the state by what goes on in Chicago. Several months ago down here, a trucking company owner shot two people who were running from his storage area after he caught them stealing anhydrous ammonia. No one was killed, but two were shot and the trucking company owner was never charged. In no way shape or form did that shooting meet the criteria for a legal defensive shooting.

Jeff
 
Would the state have felt better if they guy raped the daughter before he was shot? They seem to be making him out as an innocent victim.
 
Petersen said Langendorf did not have an arrest record.

"There's nothing," the chief said. "It doesn't fit."

There's a first time for everything. Home intrusion included.

"He doesn't have an arrest record...it's just don't fit.", Huh? Did you ever think that maybe he hasn't been caught before genius detective?
 
wow...good job on his part. they'd be crazy to arrest him.

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[disclaimer] i was testing a new webbrowser, and wanted to say something relevant. [/disclaimer]
 
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I think a lot of you are missing the point here. The guy isn't being investigated for the shoot itself, but to determine if he was in compliance for having a gun. This is very similar to the NY cases where people who defended themselves with unlicensed guns get arrested, not for shooting, but for the contraband. Probably no one would have known about any of these weapons had they not been used by the owner in self defense.
 
I kinda wondered about that too, Jeff, but I just assumed the police would tell the reporter only what they figured he needed to believe. The reporter, of course, would not check what he was told.

Besides, there's another difference. Your two geniuses were making meth, which as everyone in the midwest knows, is Evil. This guy was just wandering innocently through his neighbor's house. He was probably just a bit in the bag and thought he was breaking into his own house . . . . .

Man, I REALLY don't know how Agricola does it. I'll give him props next time I see him; this is hard work.
 
wow..amazing word usage

Franklin Park police and the Cook County state's attorney's office are to meet this afternoon to decide if charges should be brought against a village resident who fatally shot and killed a neighbor who broke into his home Thursday night, authorities said.
...who fatally shot and killed...
Police also are trying to determine if the resident had a firearm owner's identification card for the .45-caliber semi-automatic weapon he allegedly fired, fatally wounding Steven Langendorf, 24, of the 3000 block of North Gustav Street in the western suburb.
...he allededly fired...

does anyone else have a problem with this?? If they're going to use this BS "allegedly fired" stuff, why don't they say "allegedly killed" as well? Who shot him then, the dog? I'm not trying to point out the use of anti language, but instead the inconsistency.:rolleyes:
 
If the case is as clean cut as it would appear in the article, kudos to the shooter.

A guy breaks into my (non-existant) daughter's bedroom, ceases to stop after two warning shots, and continues to come at me?

Let's just say the next worry on my mind would be getting his blood out of my carpet...
 
Man, did this drop off the radar here!

I haven't heard or seen much about this since it happened here in the Chicago area.

They'll play hell finding a jury to indict a guy that shot an intruder after he broke into the daughter's bedroom. After the neighbor kidnapped and killed that little girl in Cali the sympathy seems to have shifted from the poor disadvantaged criminal to the real victims.

I'm hoping that fact that it dropped off the news media so quickly is good for the shooter and means, as usual, that they don't want to publicize a gun being used successfully in a valid home and family defense.

Why ... if people found out that you could actually defend your home and family with a gun other people might want one. Not in Chicago you better not.

Don P.
 
Something tells me that the biggest worry that the Attorney General had was trying to get someone to hack the FOID system and retroactive the guy...

"Did you possess a FOID card on that date?"

"No."

"I'll ask you again. Did you possess a FOID card on that date?"

"Nope - just told you."

"Okay - let's get this right this time - here's your FOID card. Here's the date on it. It is BEFORE you shot the bleep. Now, _DID YOU POSSESS A FOID CARD ON THAT DATE?"_

"Uh... Sure!"
 
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