Illegal or unethical or neither?

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I hunt at my uncle's very rural log home. Last year, he just had knee replacement surgery, so was having a hard time getting around. When deer season came around (last year's season, not the current one), he was pretty much limited to hunting ground blinds instead of his usual stand. Well, he came in from the morning's hunt and looked out his front window to see a deer in the field in front of his house, maybe 100 yards away. He grabbed some ear muffs, opened his bedroom window, plopped down on his bed in a prone position and let a .30-06 round fly. He called it handicapped hunting, especially since he wasn't the one that had to field dress it. Walking with a cane/walked would have made that a little difficult. Here in KY, I don't think we have any law against shooting out a building, but we did joke that he probably wasn't wearing hunter orange pajamas when he shot it.
 
so, if the house is burnt down other than the walls, and it's in the woods, does that count as house or blind? (as in the place i took my last deer)
 
As long as it's legal to shoot while on and in your own property, what difference does it make if you shoot from the house, your car/truck or from a stand? Sure, it's not what I'd call "hunting", but so what? Meat in the pot is meat in the pot.

Back when I was culling deer off my place, I'd take a paperback book down to the loading chute in the corral and read and wait until the does gathered in the oat patch about 200 yards away. Bang, plop, meat in the freezer. I didn't worry about "hunting"; I just needed to get rid of some deer.
 
Hahaha. Some great responses here, and I thank you.

My buddy harvested a large doe, by special permit, just this morning from his garage perch. I also learned that he wraps himself in an old electric blanket which he plugs into a garage outlet. I guess it ain't like hunting in the Rockies, nor will he ever make the cover of Sports Afield; but in this area of New York, I believe most of the deer are killed by automobiles, so I spoze' it ain't such a bad thing.
 
I have found it interesting that so many folks don't think the guy is hunting because he is using a structure for protection from the environment. So if you aren't out suffering in the cold, then it isn't hunting? LOL.

Of course folks proclaiming it not to be hunting are all out there in their loin cloths and running down deer barefooted and killing them with a pointy stick or rock, right? They would not be using proper winter clothing, hand warmers, electric socks and using a firearm such that they could take the deer at distance where the deer really doesn't even have a chance to know it is being pursued, right?
 
Of course folks proclaiming it not to be hunting are all out there in their loin cloths and running down deer barefooted and killing them with a pointy stick or rock, right?
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I've often had a similar remark for the "more sporting" bowhunting proponents.

me said:
REAL MEN walk into the woods naked, knap a flint knife from scratch, and wait in a tree to drop onto the deer and slit the throat!
And even they recognize that there's one guy so hardcore that he strangles the deer, not bothering with the knife ... no that's sporting!
And that guy has heard of the maniac who runs the deer down.
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I don't think it's illegal, due to the distance from the next house, and the fact that he's on his own property. Not all that much difference between the garage loft and a deer stand in a tree. But where is the hunting aspect? I've shot a couple of rabid racoons from the porch so I'm not knocking the "comforts of home"!
 
Would it be any different it were say a barn, instead of a garage? As long as he's not doing anything illegal, leave him alone! Like the one gentleman said, "he's shopping!":evil:
 
Given the circumstances, I'd say entirely legal since he owns the property and that satisfies the legal requirement.

I'd also say ethical. It's legal, he wants to do it and nobody else is being harmed by it.

Now, If I were a paying client of a guide looking for a "genuine hunting experience" I'd be put off at being told to go stand in a garage. But that's not the case here.

I call it all good from my perspective.
 
It never ceases to amaze me the way hunters like to divide themselves into "real hunters" and everyone else. From what I've seen "fake"hunters in tree stands go home with deer. "Real" hunters walking the woods go home with stories of walking the woods (and pushing deer to hunters in stands).

Do it however you like. It is all hunting.
 
Legal? = Yes, NY does not have any rules against it that I'm aware of regarding hunting out of a sturcture.

Ethical? = I think so... it is legal and assumeing nothing other than the type of sturcture he is "hunting" from is considered.

Is it the way I hunt? = No, but I don't have a problem with it... some days I wish I could do the same to fill the freezer.

Is this hunting? = I'm not going down this road... it will likely turn into a Chevy vs. Ford, or Rem 870 vs. Moss 500 or whats the best hunting caliber debate. We all have our own idea of what is and isn't hunting (that should be a thread on its own).
 
Shooting from his own home is neither illegal or unethical in my opinion.

Where he's shooting to may be another story. You weren't clear if he owns the land he was shooting to or if it's public land or if there is any other land in between his home and where the shot landed.

It might not make a difference in New York, but in Florida you can be charged with trespassing via a projectile if you shoot over someone else's property.
 
I was quite dissappointed when my buddy in northern Tenn. sold his farm. The barn was about 500 yards from the house, and easy early morning walk. The end of the hay loft that looked towards his corn field had a window in a room he had walled off for a man cave. It was heated, had a refregirator, a microwave, a coffee pot, couple of recliners and a TV.

We would ease up there on Thanksgiving mornings, sip coffee and munch hot buns while watching football and telling tales 'bout all day. We'd take a look out the window from time to time so one or the other of us usually got a deer too. After doing it that way, being damp, cold and miserable in a tree stand while the wind blows isn't as much fun as it used to be!

Happy Thanksgiving to all!
 
I take groundhogs out of a second floor dormer in my house. I see the hogs as I pull in from work, run upstairs, open the window and shoot. I hate groundhogs.

There's a dilapidated diary barn overlooking the back part of my land. It's about 20 feet from the property line. I've been meaning to ask the elderly owner if I could set up in there.
 
I wish I could watch TV, pause it, go take a leak, gaze out the window and occasionally decide "well, I think I'll take that one"....

Ohhh how nice.

Hunting? Indeed! Don't hate just because you are in a position where you ahve to get cold, wet and uncomfortable...

If I could sit at the house and do that...Wow...
 
One of my buddies pops a couple squirrels from his window with a rifle every now and again, They mess up his garden really bad. IMO it's your call......
 
no shortage of people I have met in my life, who (legally) shoot 'em from their own porch
harvesting is harvesting, legal is legal
true, no "hunting" involved, just "looking", but lots of places in the country with a prolific bambi population, they walk right into your "yard" on a frequent basis
no harm, no foul
 
When I lived in WV I used to "hunt" off the porch all the time. I'd go out maybe 30 min before dark and sit down in a chair and wait for the deer to come out. I never fed them, my neighbors on both sides of me did that. The deer moved from their bedding area on the left and right of my yard and I'd mowed/cleared a path about 40 yards wide 150 yards long between the two areas where the deer would move through. My property at that time was 10 acres of fields and steep brush filled hillside sandwiched between 3 farms on three sides, and a continuous tract of wood on the fourth. It was a deer hunters paradise. I took advantage of my homes placement for Deer, Turkey, Foxes, Coyotes.

I could even shoot/look 800 yards from my upstairs window on one of the farms next to me. I did take the ATV out after spotting bucks on several occasions. Unfair? Eh maybe so, but it's nice being able to spot deer 100's of yards off. If I climbed out onto the highest peak of the roof I could see my fathers farm 5 miles away.
 
NYS law says you have to be 500 feet from an occupied building, or have permission.

If he owns it he certainly has permission. As long as he's 500 feet from any other occupied building off his property, he's fine.

So, about his 2 story blind....:rolleyes:
 
After doing it that way, being damp, cold and miserable in a tree stand while the wind blows isn't as much fun as it used to be!
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My wife and I feel the same about camping. We used to do a fair amount of tent camping. However, one time we decided to rent one of the camping cabins availble at many South Dakota state parks....and camping forever changed! Its AMAZING at how much more fun it is when theres no airmatress or tent to deal with, thunderstorms and lightening are no longer an issue, and if it gets too warm/cold, you can always keep an eye on your fishing pole from the cabin's front window ( at least at some locations). Caught my first walleye of the year doin that once!
 
I only read the 1st post. In many states it is legal to hunt from a house if you want. You have to have the permission of the owner or tenant(you maybe) of course. You would also have to wear any blaze orange if required. You may have to meet other requirements, like distances from roads, other houses & all.

One of the most effective coyote 'hunting' methods is to watch your carcass pile from the comfort of your rural,secluded home. This works great while having the morning coffee from your unlighted kitchen table just as daylight is breaking.
 
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