Illinois concealed carry for non residents

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in 2015 I started the process to get an Illinois concealed carry permit, i got the required 16 hours of firearms training, filled out a ridiculous amount of paperwork and paid a ridiculous amount of money (total for training plus the application fees was over $500). After waiting for several months I received the permit. Less than 2 years later i moved to Wisconsin and my Illinois permit was void. I obtained a Wisconsin permit very quickly but whenever I visit IL i have to leave my pistol at home, i find this very wrong. The only thing that has changed is the fact that i moved 100miles north, I have not become a criminal or done anything wrong. Does the fact that my address changed make me less responsible now then i was when i got my Illinois permit?
Does anyone know if there is any pending legal action to force Illinois to issue to non residents?
 
I can’t help you
But I can tell you that I live in Va and when I go to our nations Capital there is NO WAY for me to legally carry.

It frustrates the #*$## out of me that I’m a citizen of the USA and my second Amendment rights are violated in the place that is suppose to be the center of freedom. Worse DC has more crime than VA and it’s actually where I need my pistol more. Having been the victim of two campus shootings I can tell you it’s BS that you have to “prove a need” to get a permit if you’re a resident and no provision for residents of states. Criminals don’t inform us of their plans ahead of time.

I can tell you that if IL is like DC who had their laws found to be unConstitutional that they’ll slow walk things. In DCs case it’s been years and they’re moving so slow you could rightly claim nothing is being done.

It’s why I was hoping we’d get national conceal carry. Sadly events like yesterday only show the need, but feed our enemies and make it harder.
 
But I can tell you that I live in Va and when I go to our nations Capital there is NO WAY for me to legally carry.

It frustrates the #*$## out of me that I’m a citizen of the USA and my second Amendment rights are violated in the place that is suppose to be the center of freedom.
To put a little different perspective on this, let me say that for 30 years I lived in Virginia but worked in D.C. Obviously, carrying in D.C. was out of the question. But even if carrying in D.C. had been legal, I worked in a secure government building and that in itself would have precluded it. But, in all those 30 years, I never felt vulnerable without a gun. Of course, I was sensible and rarely ventured into the high-crime areas of the District.

Getting back to the OP's observation about Illinois, let me mention a relevant story about my father's experience in Chicago. In the fall of 1956, he was a visiting professor at the University of Chicago. He had to walk from his temporary housing to his classes, through a fairly high-crime area. He witnessed muggings on this daily walk, but he was never a victim of a mugging himself. One day, he was fairly close to an ongoing mugging, and he heard the perpetrator saying to the victim, pointing in my father's direction, "he's one of us." It seems to me that keeping a low profile, and blending in with the surroundings, is a good way to avoid trouble. Don't look like a victim, and you won't be one.
 
You don't have to leave your pistol at home in WI, you are legal to carry it loaded or unloaded in your vehicle and on any private property that you are authorized to carry on.
 
http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/wisconsin.pdf

Definitive answer.
Birdhunter1 has given you erronious info.
Ill. does, however, allow for non resident permits to be issued;
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39

(430ILCS 66/40),

but I'm guessing your chances of getting one are the same as that of a snowball lasting on the Sun.
Reading further down, it looks like they only issue non-resident permits to residents of AR, MS, TX, and VA. Not the five that border it, that would be logical. :confused:
 
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http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/wisconsin.pdf

Definitive answer.
Birdhunter1 has given you erronious info.
Ill. does, however, allow for non resident permits to be issued;
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39

(430ILCS 66/40),

but I'm guessing your chances of getting one are the same as that of a snowball lasting on the Sun.
Reading further down, it looks like they only issue non-resident permits to residents of AR, MS, TX, and VA. Not the five that border it, that would be logical. :confused:

I am not wrong, Section 40 (E) addresses this: (below)

Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.

However you are correct that getting a non resident license is difficult, the state has not issued one yet.
 
Mea Culpa. I didn't read that far down. Still, it'd be far too easy to forget to take it off.......
. I agree, it is stupid and would be easy to forget to take it off. I wasn’t mad over it I just put it in bold so it would be easier seen. You only have to take it off when you get out of the area of your vehicle, you can leave it on you to get to your trunk, it’s about as stupid and senseless.
You aren’t the first to get wrong the magical paradox we call IL gun laws, they don’t make much sense to anyone.
 
NON-RESIDENTS
I am at least 21 years old.
I have not been convicted of any Felony.
I have not been adjudicated as a mental defective by a court of law.
I have not been involuntarily committed to a facility for the purpose of mental health treatment.
I have not been admitted as a voluntary patient in a facility for the purpose of mental health treatment within the past 5 years.
I have not been addicted to narcotics.
I am not intellectually disabled or developmentally disabled.
I am not subject to any active Order of Protection.
I have not within the past 5 years been convicted of battery, assault, aggravated assault, violation of an order of protection, or a substantially similar offense in which a firearm was used or possessed.
I have not been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic battery or substantially similar offense.
I have not been adjudicated a delinquent minor for the commission of an offense that if committed by an adult would be a felony.
I have not been convicted or found guilty of a misdemeanor involving the threat of physical force or violence to any person within the past 5 years.
I do not have 2 or more violations related to driving while under the influence of alcohol, other drugs, intoxicating compounds within the past 5 years.
I am not subject to a pending arrest warrant, prosecution or proceeding for an offense or action that could lead to disqualification to own or possess a firearm.
I have not been in a residential or court-ordered treatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the past 5 years.
You may be eligible if you satisfy the above and no objections are filed by law enforcement.

Non-resident permits are available for residents of four states, AR, MS, TX, VA and Non-residents are also exempt from having a FOID card if they possess a valid CCW permit from their home state.
 
Non residents still cannot "carry" other than in their vehicles. Unless the vehemently anti gun legislature let one slip through.
 
Non residents aren’t exempt from the ‘FOID’ card by a concealed carry permit, in fact they are not eligible for a
FOID card at all because they are not an IL Resident. To be in possession of a firearm in IL all you have to do is be eligible to own it in your state, to carry it loaded in your vehicle you have to have a concealed carry permit from your state.
Weird as it sounds a non resident can walk in and buy ammunition but a resident has to show a FOID card.
 
. I agree, it is stupid and would be easy to forget to take it off. I wasn’t mad over it I just put it in bold so it would be easier seen. You only have to take it off when you get out of the area of your vehicle, you can leave it on you to get to your trunk, it’s about as stupid and senseless.
You aren’t the first to get wrong the magical paradox we call IL gun laws, they don’t make much sense to anyone.

A trickier issue might be if you were pulled over by law enforcement and were ordered to exit the vehicle. Do you step out and be carrying illegally, or refuse to obey the order to step out?
 
A trickier issue might be if you were pulled over by law enforcement and were ordered to exit the vehicle. Do you step out and be carrying illegally, or refuse to obey the order to step out?

If you do not have either a resident or non-resident CCP issued by the State of Illinois (or a LEOSA card) you cannot have a loaded firearm in your vehicle when traveling through Illinois. See the following from the Illinois State Police:

WHAT IF I LEAVE A FIREARM IN MY VEHICLE (REGARDLESS OF LOCATION) AND SOMEONE WITHOUT A FOID CARD IS DRIVING THE VEHICLE AND IS STOPPED BY POLICE AND THE FIREARM IS FOUND?
The law states a person must “knowingly” violate the law. The assumption in the question is that the driver was unaware of a firearm’s presence. However, at a traffic stop, you should expect the officer to handle the situation at face value, take enforcement action accordingly, and let the court settle the matter. Don’t put someone in that position.

HOW CAN I LEGALLY TRANSPORT OR POSSESS AMMUNITION?
Illinois law requires residents possessing ammunition have a valid FOID card. The location of ammunition being transported, including ammunition being transported in loaded magazines, is not regulated if the firearm is possessed or transported lawfully.

IS IT LEGAL TO HAVE AMMUNITION IN THE CASE WITH THE FIREARM?
Yes, as long as the firearm is unloaded and properly enclosed in a case.CAN I KEEP A FIREARM IN MY HOTEL ROOM WHEN I TRAVEL?Yes, assuming no local ordinance applies. The critical question is how the fi rearm was carried into the room and transported in a vehicle. Those actions must be done lawfully.

I HAVE A FRIEND/RELATIVE WHO HAS A “CONCEAL AND CARRY” PERMIT ISSUED IN THE STATE IN WHICH THEY RESIDE. IS THE PERMIT RECOGNIZED IN ILLINOIS?
No. Illinois does not recognize “conceal and carry” permits from any state. Non-residents are subject to Illinois’ law, restrictions, and penalties, and should be familiar with them if the non-resident plans to bring a firearm into the state of Illinois.

HOW CAN I LEGALLY TRANSPORT A FIREARM ON MY PERSON OR IN MY SPORTS UTILITY VEHICLE (SUV), PICKUP TRUCK, VAN, STATION WAGON, OR EVEN A MOTORCYCLE?
Three statutory codes regulate the possession, transfer, and transportation of firearms - the Criminal Code, the Wildlife Code, and the Firearm Owner’s Identifi cation Act.In order to comply with those statutes when transporting a fi rearm, it must be:
1. Unloaded, and
2. Enclosed in a case, and
3. By persons who have a valid FOID card. Non-Residents must be eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence

WHAT CONSTITUTES A LEGAL “CASE” FOR TRANSPORTING A FIREARM?
The Criminal Code refers to “a case, fi rearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container.” However, the Wildlife Code is more specifi c, defi ning case as “a container specifi cally designed for the purpose of housing a gun or bow and arrow device which completely encloses such gun or bow and arrow device by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, with no portion of the gun or bow and arrow device exposed.

HOW DO THE DIFFERENCES IN LAWS AFFECT ME FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE UNLAWFUL USE OF WEAPONS LAW?
It is recommended that persons transport their fi rearms only unloaded and in a case in order to be fully compliant with all statutes. A firearm transported in a container other than a case, while engaged in activities covered by the Wildlife Code, could subject an individual to a charge of Class B Misdemeanor under the Wildlife Code, but would not be considered Unlawful Use of Weapons if the case were a “fi rearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container” as provided in the Criminal Code.

IF I FAIL TO ZIP UP THE CASE ENTIRELY, WILL I BE GUILTY OF A FELONY?
No, as long as the firearm is unloaded, and none of the aggravating factors of the Unlawful Use of Weapons law are present. However, to fully comply with the law, fi rearm cases must be completely zipped or otherwise completely fastened shut.

IF A NON-RESIDENT IS COMING TO ILLINOIS TO HUNT AND WOULD LIKE TO BRING THEIR FIREARM, HOW DO THEY LEGALLY TRANSPORT IT?
Non-residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire fi rearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all fi rearms:1. Unloaded, and2. Enclosed in a case, and3. Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state.

HOW DO I TRANSPORT A FIREARM THROUGH AN ILLINOIS COMMUNITY WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS FIREARMS OR HANDGUNS?

Illinois’ Unlawful Use of Weapons law does not preempt local ordinances from banning firearms. Persons carrying or transporting firearms through such communities could be subject to local firearm ordinances. It is recommended that you contact local authorities regarding their firearm ordinances.

Hope this helps clearing up the confusions.
 
"If you do not have either a resident or non-resident CCP issued by the State of Illinois (or a LEOSA card) you cannot have a loaded firearm in your vehicle when traveling through Illinois. See the following from the Illinois State Police:"

Please read what I have posted above, non residents can carry in and around their vehicle* with a permit issued from their state, (*-- around their vehicle is for purposes of storing a firearm in their trunk or removing it from themselves to store in the vehicle).

Non residents aren’t exempt from the ‘FOID’ card by a concealed carry permit, in fact they are not eligible for a FOID card at all because they are not an IL Resident. To be in possession of a firearm in IL all you have to do is be eligible to own it in your state, to carry it loaded in your vehicle you have to have a concealed carry permit from your state.
 
"If you do not have either a resident or non-resident CCP issued by the State of Illinois (or a LEOSA card) you cannot have a loaded firearm in your vehicle when traveling through Illinois. See the following from the Illinois State Police:"

Please read what I have posted above, non residents can carry in and around their vehicle* with a permit issued from their state, (*-- around their vehicle is for purposes of storing a firearm in their trunk or removing it from themselves to store in the vehicle).

Non residents aren’t exempt from the ‘FOID’ card by a concealed carry permit, in fact they are not eligible for a FOID card at all because they are not an IL Resident. To be in possession of a firearm in IL all you have to do is be eligible to own it in your state, to carry it loaded in your vehicle you have to have a concealed carry permit from your state.

I read what you wrote. If people believe they can carry a loaded pistol on their person or in the driving compartment of their car in Illinois and they don't have a Concealed Carry Permit issued by Illinois, they are going to be in serious trouble if stopped by a LEO in Illinois. Non-residents do not get carry privileges not extended to Illinois residents who lack an Illinois issued CCP, I included direct statements from an ISP pamphlet that should have made that clear. If necessary I will specifically asked the question the way you pose it to the Public Information Office of the ISP and publish their response.
 
I am not wrong, Section 40 (E) addresses this: (below)

Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:
(1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law;
(2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and
(3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3497&ChapterID=39


^^^In the concealed Carry act that was passed that gave us Illinoisans concealed carry.

It is also on page 10 of the IL page of http://www.handgunlaw.us/
 
From a recently retired ISP Captain I am friends with who is an instructor and helped lobby alot of what the bill contained at the start and very active in keeping it.

Me: In a forum I frequent I am in a debate with an out of stater saying a person cannot carry in their vehicle unless they have an IL issued CCL. Have I misread and been misinformed that an out of state resident CAN carry in their vehicle with their license from their home state?

ISP Captain: Out of staters CAN carry concealed in a vehicle in Illinois as long as they are permitted to do so in their home state. Once they step out and away from their vehicle, the gun has to remain in the vehicle if loaded, or be unloaded, disassembled, in a case, etc.
 
From a recently retired ISP Captain I am friends with who is an instructor and helped lobby alot of what the bill contained at the start and very active in keeping it.

Me: In a forum I frequent I am in a debate with an out of stater saying a person cannot carry in their vehicle unless they have an IL issued CCL. Have I misread and been misinformed that an out of state resident CAN carry in their vehicle with their license from their home state?

ISP Captain: Out of staters CAN carry concealed in a vehicle in Illinois as long as they are permitted to do so in their home state. Once they step out and away from their vehicle, the gun has to remain in the vehicle if loaded, or be unloaded, disassembled, in a case, etc.

When I'm wrong, I admit it. I was wrong on this. Apparently out of staters have more rights than Illinois residents. Thank you for being persistent enough to correct my misstatements.
 
I did check what I had read, interpreted and had been taught to make sure I was correct.
No skin off my back, IL has some screwy rulings based on our Communist Comrades out of Chicago that have destroyed, raped and are currently pillaging this state.
 
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