Illinois: "Orland board rejects gun sales close to school "

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"Near Schools" is a disturbing "for the children" trend. If schools, why not day care facilities .... or churches .... or hospitals ... or residential neighborhoods?

And, I would think that getting a quarter mile from a school would be pretty difficult in an urban area.

from the Star Newpapers

http://www.starnewspapers.com/star/spnews/news/22-sp2.htm
Orland board rejects gun sales close to school
Thursday, May 22, 2003

By Jef Rietsma

The Star
A majority of Orland Park's trustees Monday sided with Mayor Dan McLaughlin in approving an ordinance that prohibits the sale of firearms within a quarter-mile distance from a school.

The 5-2 vote in favor of the ordinance means Galyan's Trading Co. will not be allowed to sell firearms at its Orland Park Place shopping center location.

The much-debated topic was finally settled with this week's decision, but there is hope for supporters who rallied for the sale of so-called "long guns" at Galyan's.

Orland School District 135 is likely to place before voters March 16 next year a building referendum proposal. If the referendum is approved, the district is expected to build a new K-3 school in the southwest sector of the village, then close Center School and sell the property to Orland Park Place.

Optimistically, the soonest the new school would open would be the start of the 2005-06 academic year, meaning Galyan's has at minimum of two years before it can comply with the village's new firearms ordinance.

Center School's proximity to Galyan's was at the core of the debate, which has been ongoing for three months.

There are 23 classrooms and 535 students at the K-3 Center School.

Monday's vote makes Galyan's an unlikely, but important, backer of next year's District 135 building referendum.

Jim Lain, Galyan's regional vice president, said a Friday meeting involving top-ranking officials from the 37-store chain will decide what course of action may be taken next with the 6-week-old Orland Park store.

"I'll certainly mention the school district's referendum," he said. "I anticipate Galyan's will work closely with the local school district to help promote the referendum in any way we can."

Lain said reports that Galyan's is contemplating a lawsuit against the village were exaggerated.

Prior to the board's vote Monday, Lain said he perhaps would have thought twice about opening a store in Orland Park if he knew it would not be allowed to sell firearms.

"I challenge anybody to find a statistic out there that shows the location of a licensed firearm dealer has anything to do with a greater frequency of shootings in the surrounding area," Lain told the board.

Trustees James Dodge and Ed Schussler cast the dissenting votes.

Dodge said considering support for and against the ordinance was evenly divided based on the sentiment of the 50-plus people who attended Monday's meeting, he was comfortable with the restrictions included in the original proposed ordinance.

At the behest of McLaughlin, an amendment stating a business may not be closer than one-quarter of a mile to a school was added to the proposed ordinance.

"I place a lot of weight on the fact that (District 135) Supt. Pete Yuska, Center School's principal and its Parents For Education representatives were OK with the proposed ordinance after we went over everything with them last month," Dodge said.

Yuska has since said the school district is neutral on the issue and he would support whichever position the board takes.

McLaughlin last week and police Chief Tim McCarthy two weeks ago indicated they can't support an ordinance that would allow the sale of firearms within a quarter-mile radius.

Terry Knox, who spearheaded a campaign opposed to the sale of firearms at Galyan's, said the board did the right thing by voting its conscience.

"I think it's important to reiterate we are not opposed to the Second Amendment, we are not against the right to own guns and we are not against the sale of guns in Orland Park," Knox said afterwards. "It boils down to the sale of guns within a certain distance from a school."

McLaughlin, and trustees Kathy Fenton, Brad O'Halloran and Bernie Murphy concurred, voicing a similar concern. Trustee Pat Gira also voted in favor of the quarter-mile restriction ordinance.

Schussler argued a quarter-mile is too arbitrary of a distance and said the originally proposed ordinance was fair to both sides.

"I've yet to find a rational explanation why a quarter-mile is so significant," he said. "There's a greater risk to students being injured by a car or bus at Center School than any danger posed by a rifle or shotgun."

If there is a danger selling guns near Center School, Schussler added, then there is a danger to the entire community.

"Village hall is seven-tenths of a mile from Galyan's, Centennial Park is nine-tenths of a mile," he said.

Lain said the floor space originally designated for rifles and shotguns in the Orland Park store will be filled to include an expanded fishing gear display, electronics and, ironically, an assortment of pellet guns, and paintball and archery equipment.

Jef Rietsma may be reached at (708) 802-8810 or via e-mail at [email protected]
 
But I bet a sex shop selling condoms, toys, and videos would be just fine right across the street, right? Seems to be okay in Florida anyway.

GT
 
You must be mistaken ...

I was in the Galyans in Orland for their Grand Opening and asked the manager if they would be getting firearms in, like they have at Oakbrook and just about every other Galyans on the planet.

He assured me that it would just be a month or so before they got permission and that they wouldn't open a store if they couldn't "stock it fully".

Without a gun department I'll just go down the mall to crappy old Sportmart to buy the same things at a lower price. Bad news for Galyans, good news for Rinks and the other local gun stores.

I'm sure "the children" are safer for that 1380 feet between them and the guns stored in cases ... for the 5 hours they spend in school ... on a closed campus.

As far as the porno rules go, there is a Barnes & Noble with an assortment of adult magazines available in the same shopping center. So, according to Orland city fathers; porn = good for kids; guns = bad for kids.

Don P.
 
I DON"T UNDERSTAND!

Before I say anything more, let me preface my remarks with the fact that I relize "logic" has absolutely no place in any statement connected with / from an anti-gun agenda.

So...

I have never understood why legally selling or possessing guns within ANY distance of a school should be an issue.

Is it because kids could see a gun in the window on their way to or from school? NO!

Is it because it will be easy for a kid to buy a gun on their way to or from school? NO!

Is it because the evil stink of the guns will waft out the door and brainwash them? (Well, that probably depends on who thinks about it, but...) NO!

So what could it be? IMHO, it's because anti-gunners know that kids might see the gunstore and think that it's okay for people to have guns. And they don't want kids growing up to think that guns are acceptable in any way shape or form.
 
Gee, I wonder, how many guns pass by our schools as a CCW, in a trunk or with an officer in a given day. Would they be supprised.

Did you know that school are a magnet that draws guns to them. These guns are so moblie that they just move closer and closer and are a direct threat to any school. Just ask Mayor(King) Daily how banning guns cure the murder rate. Chicago has the highest and is still adding on....

:fire: :banghead: :cuss: :barf:
 
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