Illinois=Worst State Ever

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Wakejefe

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Greetings:

I am new to the forum and look forward to contributing.

My FOID card has my parents address on it as I was a student when I applied. My drivers license shares the same address.

However, currently I live in Evanston (a suburb where ALL handguns are banned).

How crazy/illegal is it to purchase a handgun (.357 of course) knowing that I do not currently live at my parents address?

I will beginning professional school shortly and will be moving out of Evanston (also know as the socialist republic) but will NOT be returning to parents address.

Any thoughts?

Jefe
 
I personally think California is worse with our assault weapon/magazine ban. But at least have a state law that pre-empts all local laws. But this doesn't mean cities don't attempt to pass local laws anaway, e.g., San Francisco.

Why not just wait until you move to a new place?

By the way, the admins here always tell us to never promote illegal activities or suggest that someone else do something illegal, even hypothetically.
 
To limit the possibility of breaking any laws I would move first, update DL with new address, update FOID with new address, and then make the purchase.

Or you could move over to IN and not worry about the FOID card and you'd have CCW available. The results of November's elections will determine if that's my next move.
 
Now you let the cat out...

Having an foid is just a start, is your other id the evanston address? You will be in violation if you bring a handgun into evanston. Willmete has similar laws and a friend and gunowner who lived there received a letter from the village attorney advising him that "they" knew he had guns and would prosecute him if the opportunity arose. He moved. Imagine, the village gets into state records for foid holders and intimidates it's citizens regarding a freedom guaranteed by the constitution. When push came to shove (Google= Hale DeMar) Wilmette backed down to an NRA sponsored defense. Don't doubt that Evanston will find out about your purchase and with the violation of the state statute (Address) you will be SOL. You may find a gun locker at a range or a friend can keep the gun for you. Get you foid updated and then keep the gun out of the Evanston address!! Get my drift? Welcome to the site and to the world of brain teasing gun laws in illinois. Now you know why I'm an "ILLHUNTER":eek:
 
Welcome to you from a fellow Illinoisan.
I don't believe it is illegal for you to purchase a handgun, just illegal to possess it in Evanston. updating your FOID and DL is probably the safest way to go.
Illinois isn't known for 2A rights recognition, but some of us are working to improve things, and some are just complaining. It's up to you to decide which camp you sit in.
 
There is a link at the Illinois State Police website that will allow you to change the address on your FOID online. The Secretary of State has a link on his website that will allow you to change your adress on your drivers license online.

Staying within the law is as easy as posting on THR to complain about it.

You may have to take a utility bill or some other form of ID into the gunshop to satisfy the federal requirement for proof of address as neither of these methods will give you a new card with the correct address.

Filling out a 4473 with the wrong address on it is a Federal crime. So I suppose your next post ought to be how the USA is the worst. :rolleyes:

Jeff
 
We could really use

More Illinoisans to get up off their ever widening posterior, put down the remote and beer and VOTE! (It's tomorrow!) Snow or no Snow. We have a chance to put a pro 2A Governer in office. Let's give it our best shot.

To your question. As others have stated DO NOT take a gun into Chicagoland or the Daleyburbs surrounding it. (This includes Evanston) They will prosecute you if they get the chance. I highly recommend moving first. Today. Just my .02
 
Apologies

My apologies Jeff. Perhaps I should change the title on my post as it was in jest.

I also apologize for my ignorance on the nature (federal) of the violation but appreciate your information.

Look forward to reading more responses.

Jefe
 
No need to apologize. As bad as things are here in Illinois, it's far from the worst. And there are a lot of us who are working very hard to make things better.

Jeff
 
General Convention

Indeed Jeff. So, is it safe to say, that due to the word use "possession" in the IL law, it would be legal for me to purchase a handgun so long as it is not kept within Evanston city limits?

Thanks again.

Jefe
 
The laws in Evanston, Morton Grove, Chicago, Willemette are all local ordinances, they are not state law. They have no effect outside the city limits. So if the city ordinance in Evanston says you can't possess a handgun, it meansyou can't possess one in the city lmits. What you do outside the city limits is none of their business.

Jeff
 
So you already live in Illinois.

So you know that we don't (most of us, the part you-all that live packed in the upper right corner call "downstate") have an ugly gun ban (like Califnordica), magazine limitations (like Ca), an approved gun list (CA, MA, others?), a .50 cal ban (CA) or a one-gun-a-month rule.

I could be worse. Count your blessings.
 
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I hear you

I know what you are saying Lee N. Field. I should modify my post title to say; "north shore" is pretty darn bad.

PS. I live in the upper RIGHT corner if you are looking from "down state". No matter how you dice it up, I still cannot possess a handgun in my own city.

Jefe
 
1. You'll have to find a shop that will sell to you with your address (most shops are familiar with the various town and village firearms codes, so your chances of purchasing are fairly slim). Same goes with Internet sellers. Not many will sell to someone with a "Verbotten" address.

2. If you do purchase a handgun via an FFL or even at a gun show, you will go through the ISP background check, and they do NOT destroy the transaction record, so expect at least a phone call, if not a visit from your local constabulary.

3. Therefore, you will need to store it somewhere outside of the village or town limits. It is NOT illegal for you to own a handgun in the Peoples Democratic Republic of North Shore, just illegal for the gun to be inside those village limits.
 
How is a handgun ban in Evanston still in effect when the NRA, et. al., is hard at work getting the San Francisco ban overturned?

From what I've read here and elsewhere, it seems that the SF ban will be short-lived. How old is the Evanston ban?
 
New guy here.
Why wait for the NRA etc, to do something? Get out and vote, get active in your area, contact your local dictators, in general, be a pain in the a$$ to all your local officials. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
I live in the good end of the state ( a short shot from KY ), and I've been tempted to move. I've lived here all my life and don't want to leave my hunting holes. It's time for all IL gunowners to join together and stand up to the Chicago political machine.
ANYBODY BUT ROD IN NOV 06!!!
John
 
Municipal Bans

My first post on THR, several years ago now, was seeking advice on how to appeal the denial of my application to register a pump-action shotgun in the City of Chicago. The application had been denied on the grounds that the Remington 870 in question was an "assault weapon".

As you say, Wake, the north shore can be a challenging area for firearms owners to call home. :)
 
How is a handgun ban in Evanston still in effect when the NRA, et. al., is hard at work getting the San Francisco ban overturned?

From what I've read here and elsewhere, it seems that the SF ban will be short-lived. How old is the Evanston ban?
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Look up Quilici vs morton grove.
 
Well said

I hear all you fellas. I certainly am active and am definately not going to bring my handgun within the city limits.

Jefe
 
The application had been denied on the grounds that the Remington 870 in question was an "assault weapon".
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Was it because it is used by Police Deptments? What is the diffence between the 870 and another pump that isn't considered an "assault weapon"?

Can I assume that a Mossburg 500 would considered an "assault weapon" as well?

-Bill
 
Look up Quilici vs morton grove.
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Wow - I bolded the section which just stuck out to me. Ouch!!!! Did the NRA ever pick up on this further? What am I missing since that ruling seems not true.

VICTOR D. QUILICI vs. VILLAGE OF MORTON GROVE
UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SEVENTH CIRCUIT

December 6, 1982, Decided

BAUER, Circuit Judge.

This appeal concerns the constitutionality of the Village of Morton Grove's Ordinance No. 81-11, which prohibits the possession of handguns within the Village's borders.The district court held that the Ordinance was constitutional. We affirm.

We next consider whether Ordinance No. 81-11 violates the second amendment to the United States Constitution....

Because the second amendment is not applicable to Morton Grove and because possession of handguns by individuals is not part of the right to keep and bear arms, Ordinance No. 81-11 does not violate the second amendment....
 
Worst state compared to what? Massachusetts?
We have a gun card, they have a gun card.
They have an approved only firearms list, we don't.
They have firearm manufacturers in their state, so do we.
They have Concealed carry, we,,,,,ummm, we have a Guvner who is very anti gun.
 
My FOID card has my parents address on it as I was a student when I applied. My drivers license shares the same address. However, currently I live in Evanston (a suburb where ALL handguns are banned).
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Are you SURE you don't really still live at your parent's address, and just spend an occasional night away from home in Evanston?
 
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