Sean Smith
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clubsoda22:
Which is followed by...
Steve in PA:
One doesn't seem to logically follow the other...?
Which is followed by...
Steve in PA:
One doesn't seem to logically follow the other...?
I'm 18 and Legally Own a Handgun in PA (A How-To)
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From Penn law:
Don't you guys think there's alot of room contained in the portion "or in moving from one place of abode or business to another" ? This phrase seems to indicate that moving the weapon between ANY place of business and ANY abode (since the previous "his" has been omitted) is acceptable. That certainly may not have been the intent, but it will make presecution for such a minor offense impossible.
It's funny. Virginia's version of such laws reads very similarly, but all that stuff (to and from rules) is a necessity only if the gun ISN'T locked up in the car.
You could also live in your car, and declare it your "abode".
Don't you guys think there's alot of room contained in the portion "or in moving from one place of abode or business to another" ? This phrase seems to indicate that moving the weapon between ANY place of business and ANY abode (since the previous "his" has been omitted) is acceptable. That certainly may not have been the intent, but it will make presecution for such a minor offense impossible.
It's funny. Virginia's version of such laws reads very similarly, but all that stuff (to and from rules) is a necessity only if the gun ISN'T locked up in the car.
You could also live in your car, and declare it your "abode".
Gentlemen-
Lets keep it civil, eh? The thread took a major veer off the High Road a few posts back, but seems to be back on course now. As enlightening as this is, I do not wish to lock it down for personal insults and taunting.
Mike
Lets keep it civil, eh? The thread took a major veer off the High Road a few posts back, but seems to be back on course now. As enlightening as this is, I do not wish to lock it down for personal insults and taunting.
Mike
JackM
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It's perfectly legal to own a restricted handgun in Canada at the age of 18. It will take a month or two to get your paperwork together after your birthday.
Bye
Jack
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Jack
I likewise didn't realize anyone thought it was illegal to possess a handgun at 18. I didn't even realize some states had the additional 21 restriction (state law not federal law).
I too remember what it was like to be 18.
I can't of course comment on the PA carry in the car issue as I am unaware of that states law, what I can say is that a thinking that since the law doesn't say it in the exeption that you can't stop for a soda, so it must be legal is the wrong way to interpret any law.
I had a concealed carry liscence in NY at 18.
The main thing I wanted to correct is there is no federal restriction for guns on college grounds public or private. IN fact late last year there was a stick about that in UTAH.
I too remember what it was like to be 18.
I can't of course comment on the PA carry in the car issue as I am unaware of that states law, what I can say is that a thinking that since the law doesn't say it in the exeption that you can't stop for a soda, so it must be legal is the wrong way to interpret any law.
I had a concealed carry liscence in NY at 18.
The main thing I wanted to correct is there is no federal restriction for guns on college grounds public or private. IN fact late last year there was a stick about that in UTAH.
clubsoda22
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* Any persons engaged in target shooting with rifle, pistol, or revolver, if such persons are at or are going to or from their places of assembly or target practice and if, while going to or from their places of assembly or target practice, the cartridges or shells are carried in a separate container and the rifle, pistol or revolver is unloaded.
Someone forgot to note the "places of assembly" clause in section four. Oh well, looks like I can go stop for lunch.
"We assembled at (Insert location here) then proceeded to the shooting range."
If you doubted i'd find the "loophole," you guessed wrong.
As for the guns on campus, federal law only applies to primary and secondary schools. No law for guns on campus. In fact, several colleges do allow guns. I talked to the assistant dean of activities at my school. He said i can keep guns on campus in an ROTC locker (even though i'm not in ROTC) and may access them anytime for sporting purposes. In fact, there is an old shooting range underneath the gymnasium at my school. I decided start a club to get the range up to spec so it can be reopened. The dean thought it was a great idea, said he would sponsor it and looks forward to shooting there in the future (he's been trying to get the pistol and rifle team back for a while.
Do i kick @$$ or what? (You don't have to answer that steve)
Steve, what i said about philly was an example, not a story to be taken as fact. In fact, I fail to see how you could have interprited it that way. I've never been pulled over in philly...nor have i been pulled over anywhere, as i drive a fast car and run from cops who can never catch me (NOTE, THIS IS BLATANT SARCASM). Just kidding, in fact i'm an excelent driver and simply never get pulled over because i follow the law (big supprise there).
everything i do is legal and it is my business to make sure of it.
Someone forgot to note the "places of assembly" clause in section four. Oh well, looks like I can go stop for lunch.
"We assembled at (Insert location here) then proceeded to the shooting range."
If you doubted i'd find the "loophole," you guessed wrong.
As for the guns on campus, federal law only applies to primary and secondary schools. No law for guns on campus. In fact, several colleges do allow guns. I talked to the assistant dean of activities at my school. He said i can keep guns on campus in an ROTC locker (even though i'm not in ROTC) and may access them anytime for sporting purposes. In fact, there is an old shooting range underneath the gymnasium at my school. I decided start a club to get the range up to spec so it can be reopened. The dean thought it was a great idea, said he would sponsor it and looks forward to shooting there in the future (he's been trying to get the pistol and rifle team back for a while.
Do i kick @$$ or what? (You don't have to answer that steve)
Steve, what i said about philly was an example, not a story to be taken as fact. In fact, I fail to see how you could have interprited it that way. I've never been pulled over in philly...nor have i been pulled over anywhere, as i drive a fast car and run from cops who can never catch me
(NOTE, THIS IS BLATANT SARCASM). Just kidding, in fact i'm an excelent driver and simply never get pulled over because i follow the law (big supprise there).everything i do is legal and it is my business to make sure of it.
Spackler
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Well, good luck to you. You might need it at some point in the future. You come across as a bit smug. You're bound to get your eyes opened a bit when you hit the real world.
clubsoda22
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the words of a man who can't admit he's wrong. Play the age card, because that's about as mature as "My dad can beat up your dad."
Name one thing i mentioned (aside from in jest) that is illegal. You don't spend time looking at the laws, contacting the attorney general and so forth. Quite frankly, i don't understand why you think you can get off talking down to me either.
Truth is, if anything gives me a good excuse for being smug, knowing my stuff is it.
As for you, learn your stuff, then we can talk. If anyone cares to debate me without talking down to me or using my age as an excuse for your lack of knoledge, go ahead. If you happen to know your stuff as well, i'd be glad to talk to you.
Name one thing i mentioned (aside from in jest) that is illegal. You don't spend time looking at the laws, contacting the attorney general and so forth. Quite frankly, i don't understand why you think you can get off talking down to me either.
Truth is, if anything gives me a good excuse for being smug, knowing my stuff is it.
As for you, learn your stuff, then we can talk. If anyone cares to debate me without talking down to me or using my age as an excuse for your lack of knoledge, go ahead. If you happen to know your stuff as well, i'd be glad to talk to you.
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