Im glad my AK 47s are up in value today

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Well, not really. Look at the REASON they are up in value. There is a small risk that people are worried about the future of gun ownership and the nation.

I'd let all my guns go to zero value if it meant a secure future.

But I agree the AK is such a great platform and people are getting on board with it.
 
Quite true, and for those who discovered and bought the similar but very different Vz-58, it seems that their timing might also be very fortunate. The rifle's popularity appears to have really taken off.

Have you guys watched "hickok45" hit a small metal gong at 200 yards, in his free stance with the iron sight WASR? He borrowed a Vz-58 for a different video.
 
The AR platform has dominated rifle sale s for too long now and people wanted something new. The last 12 yrs of internet world virtually educated many gun owners of the AK. So why not have an AK after owning so many ARs ? It makes for a bigger hole alright and although not as pinpoint accurate, it can do the job just as good. Practice and practice is key to hitting the target within it s parameters. Know the gun and it will deliver results.
 
The price has gone up over the past few years but I think a lot of it has to do with the upcoming election, people get worried about a gun ban or further restrictions and start buying just in case pushing the prices up even further, especially relevant to something like an AK with it's reputation for reliability and ruggedness.
 
Both AK47s and AK74s are fully automatic carbines. If you can't go full auto, you don't have one.

John
 
Yup, prices of AK pattern rifles have increased, but hasn't everything else? Not to fling poo at anyone's parade, but I too believe it has much more to do with the political atmosphere than any grand epiphany that AKs are "better".

I've long believed that both the ARs and AKs are great weapons and anyone who relentlessly carries on and on how one is so vastly superior than the other either has way too much time on their hands or is a simpleton to sorts. They're both swell, don't over-think it.

I've noticed other rifles/carbine enjoying a boost in monetary value as well. The M1 carbines soared into the stratosphere when they began to dry up. The once under-appreciated SKS is basking in the sun as well, with even the Yugoslavian often going for over $300.

It's an atmosphere of uncertainty and perhaps fear, aided by a (often perceived) drying market that's driving these prices.
 
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Snowdog said:
Yup, prices of AK pattern rifles have increased, but hasn't everything else? Not to fling poo at anyone's parade, but I too believe it has much more to do with the political atmosphere than any grand epiphany that AKs are "better".

I've long believed that both the ARs and AKs are great weapons and anyone who relentlessly carries on and on how one is so vastly superior than yhe other for what they were designed for either has way too much time on they're hands or is a simpleton to sorts. They're both swell, don't over-think it.

I've noticed other rifles/carbine enjoying a boost in monetary value as well. The M1 carbines soared into the stratosphere when they began to dry up. The once under-appreciated SKS is basking in the sun as well, with even the Yugoslavian often going for over $300.

It's an atmosphere of uncertainty and perhaps fear, aided by a (often perceived) drying market that's driving these prices.
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Have you looked at milsurps lately? Drastically higher than even this time last year! Mosins here are easily 50% higher.
 
The AKM and 74 pattern rifles are very popular today. Optics rails and mounts as well as higher quality RDS have taken the issues people had with the iron sights out of the equation. The importation of saiga rifles gave US companies the ability to produce a modern rifle with the features that used to be available only at the custom shop. As popularity increases so does price. Couple that with a weaker dollar in oversea markets which means we have to pay more just to get then here.
 
People just wanna have another taste of something. Away from the humdrum and boring group.
 
Price

In 2005 I purchased an "Arsenal" SAM-7 A-1R for a little over $900. Today, the same rifle (actually, you can not even buy the A-1R, only the SAM-7 classic) sells for over $1800.
 
Most of the reason for the price change is the dollar going down in value since 2002, not the rifles going up significantly.
 
A hundred bucks of that is just inflation. Most the rest is probably due more to the current political climate than anything intrinsic to the AK.


Away from the humdrum and boring group.
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That's kinda what I was thinking about AK's. :rolleyes:
 
Unfortunately for me I bought my Romy G at an inflated price back during the last election year... I didn;t want to but I had been living in Germany for years and wanted it NOW!

But at least it hasn't lost any value.
 
The ex took her AK in the divorce. It was a decent shooting wasr. I just replaced it a couple of weeks ago. I'm using it as a general-purpose beater rifle. Right now, it's covered in mud and carbon, and I don't care. I might even clean it one day. But probably not.
 
In 2002 I got a new in the box Arsenal SAM 7 with that funky muzzle break for about $ 550 . THe serial no was in the low no, the first of its kind. After which i got the SAR 1. I kept the SAM 7 in pristine unfired condition , i was hesitant to shoot bec it was so nice to devalue . In 2004 i sold it for the same money i have on it bec the SAR 1 was just what i needed.
Today the SAM7 price has almost doubled. Back in 2002 no one cared so much for the AK. The few websites i remember that details the AK was from a young Texan guy by the name of Linx. DOnt know where he is now. He was one who got me convinced to get the SAR 1.
 
Take firearms out of the equation. Everything (well, almost everything) is up because the dollar has been devalued. Sans inflation, prices should never change (excluding bans, items no longer available and limited-production firearms).
 
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Both AK47s and AK74s are fully automatic carbines. If you can't go full auto, you don't have one.

John
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Very informative. However, I think 99.9% of people know this. AK47 and AK74 are general terms that a lot of people use in reference to said firearms and a lot of people like to correct even though most people know that nearly everyone knows this. Thanks for sharing your information.
 
Im glad my AK 47s are up in value today

My SAR 1 was only $350 when i got it in 2002. Now its doubled in price. The Arsenal SGL s are almost par with mid level ARs. It s good people are now looking up to the AK and not undermining it.
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Way to gloat and think about yourself. Consider the reason they are up in price beyond inflation; not good. Then, think of those too young to buy now and the price they'll pay once they can buy, or the price you'll pay for another, or those that just decide they want one, or those that only have/had under $500 to spend. It's not just about being smart or a visionary. The AK is a cheap, reliable, rough gun that should stay cheap. IMO, if you pay more than $600 for a non-collector AK you paid too much. In time, sadly, that may not be the case.
 
Take firearms out of the equation. Everything (well, almost everything) is up because the dollar has been devalued. Sans inflation, prices should never change (excluding bans, items no longer available and limited-production firearms)
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Not quite so simple. The dollar has devalued against the Euro since 2002, but that may not drive pricing in contracts with countries that are not pegged to the Euro (like Romania, whose currency has significantly devalued against the dollar since 2008).

The weakness of the dollar is just one factor. Demand spikes are another factor, as are gaps in supply (real or artificial). Today, demand is high, supply is variable, and the weakness of the dollar continues to drone in the background.

p.s. I got my Romanian Romak-I and Romak-II for $250 each back in the day ... Rather than crow about it, I'm kicking myself for not picking up another, or that Maadi I cheaped out on (If I recall correctly, the Romanians were $250, the Maadi was $325, and the Hungarian was a whopping $395. I picked up an SGL-21 just two years ago from K-var for $550. If I was brilliant at arbitrage, I would have bought two of each, and sold them one of each when the price doubled ... that way all my AKs would have been for free. :p
 
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Looking at my mak-90 that I paid $500 for.....and comparing the quality of machining, fitment, etc...to other $500 guns I have...makes me feel like I got ripped off on the Mak-90. Crazy prices, for something stamped out of sheetmetal, assembled by barely trained factory workers.
 
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