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Hi! I'm 15 years old and i'm interested in firearms. I will be checking out gun books and have already received reccommendations. What kind of gun do you suggest? Besides a pellet/BB gun. I have access to woods, there IS an old .22 rifle in my closet that used to be my mom's dads. I don't know exactly what kind of gun, i guess i could take a picture and post it? I was thinking about cleaning it and trying it out, any suggestions?
 
A 22 would be a good place to start in order to get a feel for the function of the rifle.

I have a few suggestions and one question.

1. Take the rifle to a gunsmith before you shoot it. There may be a reason it was put in the closet and no longer shot.

2. Make sure that there are no obstructions in the barrel. Some type of insect may have built a nest in there over the years... not a fun day for you or the insect if that is the case.

3. If you have no firearms knowledge, it wouldn't be a bad thing to take a NRA safety course, or similar. Check with the NRA to see when one is being held near you-- or they can point you in the right direction.


Finally a question:

Being a minor still, have you spoken to your parents about taking out this rifle and starting firing it?

My earliest firearms experiences and lessons on firing and safety came from my father-- and under a very strict eye and his restrictions.


Good luck with everything and welcome to a very enjoyable and expensive hobby.


John
 
You do need to talk to your Mom about it first. So you have to get a sense about what her reaction will be. What do you know about her politics, her feelings about guns, even her relationship to her father since it was his gun. Do some family homework, you might find out some good stuff!
 
JWarren has some good advice. I'll "third" the idea of a .22 rifle - they are a blast to shoot, and the cheapest ammo around. I believe I got mine when I was 15 (pretty close to 30 years ago), and it still goes with me every time I go to the rifle range. Some training and/or having someone around that knows a little about firearms is a great idea as well.

Be safe! ;)
 
I forgot a MAJOR one... but it may be jumping the gun, so to speak.


Even with a 22 rifle, ALWAYS use hearing protection.

When I was learning, we really didn't concern ourselves with that. Now, at 35 years old, I can discern a noticable difference in how well I hear in my left ear as opposed to my right one.


Thanks guys, and again-- good luck with it all.


John
 
Welcome! :)

First things first: Let your parents know that your interested and ask to take a firearms safety course and basic rifle marksmanship. They will see it as a sign of maturity.

I have access to woods

Plinking around the woods can be great fun, if it's not your parents' land make sure you get permission to shoot there. Nothing will get the cops on you faster than a landowner who reports someone shooting a gun.

Also remember rule #4 out there in the woods! (Do a search on the Four Rules and commit to living them) Be sure of your target and what is beyond.

there IS an old .22 rifle in my closet that used to be my mom's dads. I don't know exactly what kind of gun

Check the markings on the barrel. Most of the information you need will be there. Maker, Model, and ammunition type. Make absolutley sure of the ammunition type before you attemt to shoot.

i guess i could take a picture and post it?

If you can't figure it out, for sure someone here will know what you have. Most of the time you can find an owner's manual on the internet with instructions for takedown and cleaning, and any special things you need to know to safely use your rifle.

Good Shooting!
 
Yeah, my mom and dad are ok with it and my dad knows about firearms and will teach me basic stuff, i've been searching all over the internet and reading everything i can get my hands onto, ill go to the library and check out some books.
 
Hearing

Hearing protection, use it, pushing 60 and my most used phrase in any conversation is, "What?"
 
Bob,

I know what you mean. I used to think my wife was ignoring me on occasion, until I realized that I just wasn't hearing her.... oh, to undo some of the idiocies of my youth!


John
 
rwva.org is a great resource for learning to shoot.

Shoot 1 inch squares at 82 feet (25 meters). If you can put 5 shots into a one inch square, you're doing very well. Once you can do that, try cutting the square down to 3/4"...then down to 1/2".

Get a Ruger 10/22 and a stack of 10 round and 25 round magazines (get steel lipped mags). I won my 10/22 in 1984 and it's still going strong.

Ask your dad to get you a Ruger Mark 3 22 caliber pistol and learn to shoot pistol. It's very challenging. If you can get a 4" group at 75 feet, you're really doing well! Once you have the fundamentals down, you'll be able to move on to more serious training in six years or so (3 years if you join the military).

Everything you learn on the 22 will translate directly into real life shooting skills. If possible, do go hunting.

Also, ask around for a junior rifle team. Not only will you get to compete in competitions, you'll make good friends and have a sport for life. Start early, get good, and you'll be shooting better than the rest of us crotchety old farts in 50 years.
 
Get a good air rifle as a back-up, a .22 cal, will shoot the same as a rimfire to 50 yards if it shoots 800 fps. I've had several .177's that shot over 1000fps but the .22 hit's out to 100 yards with practice and you don't need ear protection.
 
Welcome. Sounds like you've come to the right place. Keep reading those books.

If your're shooting offhand (not resting the gun) don't start off shooting at a 1" target at 82 feet. That's for experts only. If your .22 has iron sights (no scope) your target should be 1" for every 15 feet away.

A 5" bullseye at 75 feet will be easier to hit. You can work your way down to smaller targets soon enough. With a scope, a 3" target at 75 feet is a good practice size.

Good luck, and welcome to the sport.
 
Welcome aboard!

my mom and dad are ok with it and my dad knows about firearms and will teach me basic stuff,

Big advantage for you. Those of us who'se parents were anti's had a difficult road to travel. Fortunately, for many of us there were older friends who were willing to help us indulge in the hobby with their toys until we came of age.

First and foremost, learn everything you can from your old man. One day on the range with an experienced shooter is worth more than months of lurking and posting on internet fora. It's the hands-on experience that really teaches you. These fora are great for some of the finer points (discussing specific model alterations of a century old mil-surp rifle and the like), but no keyboard or monitor can replace a good old fashiooned lesson from pop's.

That said, if you have any questions he can't answer, I am positive someone here can!
 
.22 is definatly a good gun to begin id make sure it is still able to fire and take it to a gunsmith have it checked out if theres any ammo left definatly dont use any of the old ammo
i dunno my first gun to shoot as a mac90 i bought a .22 like a month later definatly wasnt the same so i got a ruger mark77 .300
 
Here's my suggestions...

1- Start learning with a good set of iron sights. I'd suggest an aperture rear if you have or can aquire a rifle that'll wear 'em. The old V-notch and U-notch versions may blur up on you because the human eye can't focus on three things at once. With apertures, look through the rear and ignore it and you'll see a fuzzy ring. Focus on the front sight with a blurry-looking target out ahead.

2- Contrary to some other recomendations, don't start out with a 10/22 and high capacity mags. Semi-autos are for hosin' down a running jackrabbit. Get a bolt- it don't matter whether it's single-shot or magazine fed- and think in terms of "one shot, one kill". Each bullet was designed and made to do a job whether that job is punching a hole in paper or killing something. Don't get in any hurry. Breath. Relax. Aim. Sight (focus on the front like I described above). Squeeze. Place each individual bullet so it does its job.

3- Start out at 25yds. That's 75ft. as someone mentioned as a starting distance. When it's just me, I like to use a 1" blacked-in circle as an aiming point on a sheet of pasteboard... makes for some cheap targets when you have a surplus of pasteboard boxes. If you can get a sillouette shooter to coach you in the proper stance and hold, it'll help a lot because you'll be using skeletal support instead of tiring yourself a lot more using muscle support. You won't get the shakes as quick in the process of each shot. You just have to practice letting your sights settle on the target and the trigger breaking at the right time.

4- Ammo... I have two preferences of .22LR and they're both good for different guns. The Federal bulk pack stuff you get at Wallyworld is good for running a Ruger pistol... Mk2 or 22/45- they're built on the same receiver/barrel. But Federal is High Velocity and while it'll cycle the action more reliably, it's not quite as accurate. However, for an older .22 rifle, like my Remington 521-T, a lot of times the twist rate is geared for Standard Velocity ammo. For this I prefer Winchester X-pert which is a 500rd white box at Wallyworld. I'm remembering a conversation I had last summer with a sillouette shooter... this lady shoots Ely's standard velocity match load, but she told me there's probably not much difference in trajectory between it and the Winchester load I shot (in the same match as her shooting Ely) that day. Now, starting out, you need to concern yourself with developing your skills and not throwing money at this, but if you don't have decent ammo, it'll frustrate you. For the accuracy and the money, I recommend the Winchester X-pert.

At this point, I'm not sure what all else to tell you, but I hope this helps. If you have more questions, that's what we're all on this board for. We all have questions and we all have knowledge. We just have to watch out for the keyboard commandos.
 
If your're shooting offhand (not resting the gun) don't start off shooting at a 1" target at 82 feet. That's for experts only. If your .22 has iron sights (no scope) your target should be 1" for every 15 feet away.

Starter52 is right. I forgot to mention to use a sling from the prone position. Use a sling for all positions. See www.rwva.org for details.

You can also shoot at 5 meters with a bb gun or 10m with a Daisy 853 or 953 Air Rifle. The fundamentals are the same for all rifles.

Avanti BB Gun:
http://www.daisy.com/shopping/customer/product.php?productid=16199&cat=253&page=1

These are really accurate and I used them in national competitinon through the Jaycees.

The Avanti 853:

http://www.daisy.com/shopping/customer/product.php?productid=16204&cat=253&page=1

These are used in three or four position competition.
 
I see you live in union county GA. I live in GA, Snellville. Have any recommended places to take my gun to to get it looked at?
 
I see you live in union county GA. I live in GA, Snellville. Have any recommended places to take my gun to to get it looked at?

Union County is in the mountains up by the North Carolina and Tennessee lines. When I was a kid back in the late 1970's I lived in Snellville. Sorry, though... I don't know any gunsmiths in your area. I've been out of there since I was 5 in 1979 and that was right before I started learning to shoot. I thought it was way too built up to be shooting around there now.
 
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