I'm thinking of selling some of my lesser used guns- some advice please.

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chaim

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I know, you should never sell your guns, you'll regret it. I often give that advice as well. However, I have some guns that I almost never use and right now I could use the money more than I need the guns.

I am a teacher, I don't get paid over the summer. My summer job doesn't pay that much (and I have to take a few weeks off for a class I need for my teaching certification). The end of the summer I need to buy a plane ticket to visit my grandfather in MN (he is getting quite old, and isn't doing so well so I HAVE to go now, he may not be around much longer). Also, I'm moving the last week of Sept or first week of Oct- that costs a good deal of money and I won't have more than one or two full paychecks by then. So, I need the money more right now than the guns, and the guns I'm considering selling are (mostly) guns that won't be hard to replace later (with 2 possible exceptions).

So, what am I asking your advice for? Help me figure out what to sell. I want to sell as little as possible, but still I'd like to at least be able to pay off a $1200 credit card balance and have some money left over with the proceeds. Also, any input on prices would be nice. I live in MD and will sell locally (the local market tends to be more expensive than most other areas), however if I know I can get X dollars nationally, I'll know not to take too much less than that locally.

Here are the most likely candidates:

-My HBAR Bushmaster AR15. Its a good gun, but I only get to the rifle range about once every year or two and that is a lot of money to have tied up in a gun I don't shoot. It probably is worth more than most of the other options (with one exception) . It may be expensive to replace later, but it will be at least a couple years before I start spending enough time at the rifle range to justify spending the money to replace it and I should be better able to afford it then. The drawback is I live in MD- one of these days we probably will get an AWB (and I may or may not ever leave this state- expecially now that I'm teaching where you are certified by the state and it isn't as easy as just deciding you want to move and you look for an out of state job). Also, even though I don't use it much, it is kind of nice just to have the AR.

-Bersa Thunder in .380. This hasn't been shot in a LONG time, it is definiately on my list. I only include it, not to ask if I should sell it, but so you know I'm about $100-150 on my way to the $1200-2000 I want to net out of these sales.

-Ruger KP345. It has had problems, but seems to be working properly now (and is in decent condition since I've shot fewer than 700 rounds through it). However, I'll never trust it again, and I have much nicer guns for my range guns. It will be sold. Like the Bersa I'm only including it here, not to ask if I should sell, but so you know it puts me probably $250-350 towards my goal.

-6" S&W 586M (not even -1, it is the first incarnation, with the "M" designating that the factory did the recall work on it). Nice gun, beautiful bluing, for a time I really loved this gun (while it was "new" to me). It is a nice gun and .357mag is one of my favorite calibers, but I really don't shoot it much. Nothing wrong with the gun, it just doesn't do it for me anymore (and hasn't for a couple years). I'm a huge K-frame fan, the K-frame just seems to be the "sweet spot" for me for .357mag and the L-frame is just too big. Eventually, possibly later this year after I've had a few paychecks, I'll replace it with a 6" K-frame .357mag (so losing it makes some sense, I won't just replace it with the same thing when I have more money).

Here are some less likely candidates (though at least 1-3 will have to go):

-SIG 226 in 9mm. It is a good gun, and I haven't had it long. However, I'm no longer a big 9mm fan in service pistols (I still like it in Kahr PM9 sized guns) and I have another in my CZ75B. I love SIGs now, but my .40S&W 229 probably gets double the range time. It is a better gun than my CZ (more accurate and much more solid), but it will get me more money than the CZ. It is probably worth a decent chunk of cash. I'll eventually (possibly within the year) replace it with another SIG, but probably not a 9mm SIG (SIGs on my list, one probably will be added this year, include a 220, a .40S&W 239 and possibly a .40S&W 226). If I keep it, and don't sell the CZ, I'll probably trade it on a .40S&W SIG 226 eventually.

-CZ 75B. For a long time it was one of my favorite guns, and it isn't worth as much as the SIG 226, so it probably makes more sense to sell the SIG. However, the SIG is a better gun, I may actually like the SIG better now, the CZ is popular enough it will be easy to sell, and it will be easy to replace later should I change my mind.

-18.5" Benelli Nova 12ga. It is configured for home defense with rifled sights and smooth bore. I've always liked that configuration, but I don't like my Nova anywhere near as much as I liked my basic Mossberg Persuader I sold a few years ago (also when I needed the money more). It would make sense to sell, however it is my only shotgun and is one of my home defense guns. If I sell it I don't want to be without a shotgun, and I'm not sure it would sell for much more than it would cost me to replace it with another Mossberg or a Remington 870. It may make more sense to wait until I'm not cash strapped, and just sell it after I buy a Mossberg 500 or Rem 870.

-Winchester 94 in .45LC. I love lever rifles (they are my favorite type of rifle, and may be my favorite type of gun of any kind). I don't get to the rifle range much so I love having one in a pistol caliber that I can use at local pistol ranges. However, in .45LC it isn't as reliable as I'd like. Eventually, I want to add (or replace it with) a .357mag or .44mag lever rifle (possibly another Win 94). So, it makes some sense to sell as I'd like to replace it anyway. However, I can't sell it for more than it would cost to replace it so if I sell it (because I need the money), I'll use the money to help with my short-term needs, and replace it later and thus be without a pistol caliber lever rifle for a few months (not a pretty thought).

-Winchester 94 in 30-30. My first lever rifle, I love this gun, I'd hate to see it go. I doubt it would net much money for me (it isn't a pre-64 or pre-safety, it is nothing special- I bought it new for around $220 about 6 years ago). However, I don't get to the rifle range much anymore (I haven't shot this in close to 2 years) and I do need the money right now. These are quite easy to find (as are the Marlin 30-30's) so replacing it would be no problem. Also, with how seldom I make it to the rifle range, I'd probably have it replaced before I would make it to the range to shoot my current 30-30 anyway.

-6" first generation S&W 57. It was made the first year these were made, it has the wooden presentation box (though the box is a little chipped and dented), most of the tools (possibly all of them, I'm not sure what is supposed to be there), and the finish is in great shape. It is a gun collectors would probably love. It may be worth more than any other gun I own so I should consider selling it if I need the money. I don't really need it as a collector, I'd be just as happy with a shooter (so selling this collector grade gun for a shooter would make some sense). I don't shoot it often, ammo is expensive and hard to find and I just haven't had much time lately to do any reloading. I'm actually thinking of replacing it later with a .44mag since .41mag is hard to find and expensive and I don't have time to reload often enough. However, I do love this gun, and I really love the caliber (.41mag may be my favorite caliber now- it is very shootable in an N-frame sized gun, and gives a lot of power). This would probably be the hardest of these for me to part with, especially if I replace it with a .44mag instead of another .41mag.
 
I sold a nickel model 57 6" and I still regret it. You know at least for me I don't mind getting rid of guns that don't seem as accurate to me (subjective I know). Anyway if I had that list of guns I would sell the sig and the ruger first. Those are probably the easiest to replace.

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Oh, as a quick note (before anyone suggests "that's what credit cards are for"), I know that short-term cash needs like mine are what credit cards and lines of credit are for. However, because I'm moving soon (my monthly expenses will be higher than they are now) and I recently had to replace my car (I ended up with a higher monthly payment) I'd really rather not add to my debt load right now. So, I am stuck with selling guns, and then possibly replacing some in a few months, instead of taking on more debt.
 
Go for it. No reason to keep a gun you don't like.
Well, most of the guns I like (though I don't really like the Ruger due to reliability and the Benelli just never really felt right). I'm just in more need of the money than some of the guns (and I do have about 2 dozen guns, so it makes some sense to consolidate the collection a little since I need the money and I'm moving).

So, I'd like to sell some, but not too many. Based on the information I posted, what is your specific advice? Which guns based on the info I gave should I hold on to and which should I sell?
 
I don't know man. I'm against selling any gun in a persons collection but your grandfather is sick and you want to see him. If you gotta sell some guns to do that then go ahead. You can always get them back, you will not get back grandpa.

And I wouldn't know which gun to sell. Only you know how you feel about some of your guns. We can't really decide which guns for you to sell because you're probably going to have second thoughts. You're going to have to make the decision, if you do go ahead and sell.
 
From your descriptions I would sell all of them except the .30-30 and the .41 mag. I doubt you would get much money for the .30-30 and if you ever did want to replace it I bet it would cost more than $220. Keep the .41 Mag because you WILL want another one and it WILL cost you way more to buy it.

Everything else is pretty common. I would try and get rid of whole calibers if possible to streamline even more.

I recommend against running up a credit card bill. It isn't easy to get out of that loop. Better to sell what you aren't using.
 
I have a Bushmaster AR15 also that I'd like to sell. I really don't like the idea of selling it from my house for obvious reasons and the gun shops try to low ball you.So what's a guy to do?
 
I have a Bushmaster AR15 also that I'd like to sell. I really don't like the idea of selling it from my house for obvious reasons and the gun shops try to low ball you.So what's a guy to do?

1. Bring it to a gun show

2. List it for sale here.
(The buyer sends you $ and a FFL, and you ship him the gun UPS)
 
jferrell54, I've been slow about putting some of my guns for sale for that same reason too (the Ruger and Bersa have been on my "sell" list for some time now).

I've sold rifles, a shotgun, and a handgun privately (in MD, for the handgun the purchaser and I had to go to a state police barracks to do all the paperwork that would be done at a gunshop- pain in the rear). I've also sold to dealers and to a pawnshop. When I sell it myself I try to meet at a range or other "gun friendly" public place (though for THRers with established reputations I have met in more private locations). To sell on my own again, I would consider selling a rifle MD considers "non-regulated" (i.e. not a "assault rifle" like an AR) or a shotgun where I don't have to go to the state police barracks for the paperwork (it is a pain). For handguns or my AR I'll take the hit from a dealer. What I'm doing is I'll take the guns to the couple dealers that do outright sales and see what they'll offer, then check what a dealer suggests I ask for a consignment and weight the immediate cash v. more money on consignment (hopefully). Around here everyone charges 20% on consignment.

I don't like the idea of dealing out of state and having to deal with an FFL. I don't know the laws intimately enough to feel comfortable. What does a legitimate FFL license look like? How long should I hold on to it? What happens if I lose it? Etc.
 
I sold a nickel model 57 6" and I still regret it
Yeah, it isn't my top choice. In some ways this is one of my favorite guns. But, I don't use it much (ammo cost and availability) and it is worth the most (that and the AR would probably be enough money). I could replace it with a "shooter" 57 later. I'm really unsure about replacing it with a .44mag since I love .41mag, but .44 is more useful/versatile. Selling this one probably is the least likely.


I would try and get rid of whole calibers if possible to streamline even more
I'm not really looking to get rid of any calibers. All that I have serve a purpose for me. .22lr is cheap plinking, 9mm is cheap practice that still has some felt recoil and can be useful for defense (though several other guns would have to be down to use either of my 9mms), .40 is my favorite auto caliber right now and my ideal CCW caliber (I do go out of state sometimes, though I can't carry here in MD), and .45 is a great HD caliber (and what better caliber in a 1911). For my revolver calibers I have 2 .38spl snubs, a few .357mag revolvers (that can also shoot .38) and a .41mag- the .38s (and .357s loaded w/ .38s) are great for HD, .357 and .41mag are good for camping (possible defense against predatory animals). For rifles I have 30-30 (fun), .45LC (allows me to shoot lever rifles at indoor pistol ranges), .22LR (cheap practice), 7.62 (an SKS), and .223/5.56 (an AR). The calibers are probably more geared to the gun than anything else. Also, in all platforms, the different calibers are all fun but in different ways (they all have a different feel).

If I do pare a caliber, 9mm probably would be the top choice for that. The biggest theoretical advantage (for my purposes) is it is cheaper to shoot than .40 or .45 so you can practice a lot more, but unlike .22lr you can get it in some of the same guns so the practice is in the same platform (and still gives some recoil) so the practice would transfer over to the .40 or .45 better. Or, it is a caliber that allows (relatively) cheap practice and is a capable self-defense caliber. For me though I have plenty of other guns to choose from, and I don't have a 9mm in the same platform as any of my .40s or .45s.

Anyway, I doubt I'll sell both 9mms, I'd like one "high-cap" service pistol in 9mm, at least for now.

From your descriptions I would sell all of them except the .30-30 and the .41 mag. I doubt you would get much money for the .30-30 and if you ever did want to replace it I bet it would cost more than $220

Actually, I may have paid $250 for the Win 94 (I don't remember for sure). Anyway, if I sell it privately and replace it with a used Win 94 within about a year, I should pretty much break even.

For the two 9mms, see above.

I doubt I'll sell both Winchester 94s since I love lever rifles, but I probably will sell one of them. With what I wrote above, I'll probably sell the 30-30 (the .45LC actually gets shot occasionally, the 30-30 hasn't seen the range much lately) and replace it in about a year. Then I'll sell the .45LC after I have the money again to buy one in .44 or .357.

Otherwise, I may well sell most of the others on the list. Other than the AR (which won't be replaced for a few years), the 30-30 and maybe the S&W 57, the others would be replaced with something similar but different. A 6" K-frame instead of the 586. A 226 in .40 instead of 9mm (or a completely different SIG). A pistol caliber lever rifle in .44 or .357. A Mossberg instead of the Benelli. I think it makes it easier for me since I want to make some "adjustments" as I do replace these guns over the next year or two.
 
Easiest way to figure it out for yourself....

You can make one of two choices.

(A) You have a gun, or

(B) You've got a pile of cash that represents the value of the gun

If you'd take the cash, then sell the gun. If not, keep it.

Not trying to be a jerk, but $1,200 isn't diddly in today's world. When you figure it takes $50 or more to fill your gas tank, $1,200 doesn't go very far. I routinely carry $200-300 in my pocket.

You could deliver pizzas for a month as a second job, make more than that, and keep your guns. When I was 25 I had a family and worked three jobs. Heck, you can mow lawns and make $50 apiece pretty easy. Is it worth 30 days of a little extra work to keep your stuff??
 
-My HBAR Bushmaster AR15. Keep

-Bersa Thunder in .380. Sell

-Ruger KP345. Sell

-6" S&W 586M Keep

Here are some less likely candidates (though at least 1-3 will have to go):

-SIG 226 in 9mm. Sell

-CZ 75B. Sell

-18.5" Benelli Nova 12ga. Sell

-Winchester 94 in .45LC. Keep

-Winchester 94 in 30-30. Keep

-6" first generation S&W 57. Keep
 
I have my collection divided into two sections, one core collection that will never be sold and one secondary collection of guns that I'll trade or sell to get others I want to try out or play with for a while. Once a gun is elevated to core status it is no longer a candidate for selling or trading, since I started thinking of it this way I've not regretted any gun sales.

If you plan to replace a gun you're thinking of selling then don't sell it as the replacement will never be as good a gun as the one you have. Never sell a gun with sentimental value as that can't be replaced.
 
Keep 'em

I'm with redneck2. Work to keep them. Get a couple of part time jobs and see where that lands you. Should be able to scrape the money together doing that. I've had to do it before when broke and a wife and daughter to feed. Kept my guns. (Close though)
 
In the end I've never been glad I sold a gun (excepting one defective P92)

In the end I've never EVER been able to replace (re-buy) a gun for less or equal than the price of the original. It has ALWAYS cost me more.

The replacement gun(s) have nearly always had some change (the addition of "lawyer parts" and such) that have detracted from my satisfaction and made me wish even more that I hadn't sold the original.

NEVER SELL A GUN YOU LIKE. FIND AN ALTERNATIVE.
 
Sell some blood/plasma--keep your hardware. From what you've stated you have a quite diverse collection--and you've acquired them over time.

I know you don't want to extend your credit, and that is wise. But unless you part with the high dollar weapons (maybe one or two) you'll not see much value for what a dealer will pay. Search a deal on the air fare--and by all means visit your Grandfather.

I wish I had the $$$, I'd make you an offer on the AR---it is probably the most easily replaced---it's essentially a commodity item these days. I wouldn't worry too much about the AWB problem. Good luck.
 
I would never sell the Winchesters for the simple reason that they don't make them anymore. The .30-30 is the best selling rifle of all time. You need one. It is almost a requirement as an American. The .45 will be nice to have someday when Winchesters of different calibres are considered collectables. I have a 94 Trapper in .44 mag. It was my first gun, I love it, and I will never sell it.
 
First of all - on your less likely please take your mod 94 30 30 off ANY list. It was your first DO NOT even think about it. Regret sux!!!

The rest is just a choice.....but for me I would just look for another state to move to when the AWB hit and the AR would never leave my gun cabinet.

Being away from grandpa stinks I know that for sure. Ever think about finding a teaching job near grandpa? It could be the best move you ever made and you would not have to worry about AWB. Just a thought...and my friend is a teacher and like you has time off no pay... he started teaching in off time doing spanish and translating spanish on call for like Socail Services etc. for like $60.00/hr and at the nearby commnity college

And I hope you dont take it wrong, but I would not make a mistake to correct a CC debt. That to me is 2 mistakes.

But bottom line for me and sounds like you too!.......Grandpa comes above all!
 
I know how it goes. i have handguns in my safe that i haven't fired in 3 or 4 years. I have rifles that haven't been fired in so long there's spiders living in them. I've had some things happen in the last year that's really made me stop and think: What the hell do i need 36 handguns and a dozen rifles for? Who will i leave them to? My son likes to shoot, but he's not really into guns. My daughter really couldn't care less. So i decided to keep my dad's guns and a few of my favorites, sell off the rest and use the money to start building my '58 Chevy truck.

It really boils down to what will you really miss and what would be hard to replace. Nobody can really make that decision but you. You just need to lay them out on the floor, take along hard look at them, then figure it out from there. But i will add, there's no way i would ever consider getting rid of the Bushmaster.
 
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