Improved M1 Carbine (update)

this winchester m1 carbine had served in ww-2 and was rebuilt and sold thru dcm and served several generations of house pertection, before comming to me. tho i have other home guard weopens it,s still on guard.


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The improved M1 Carbine, for practical purposes, is the mini 14 in whatever caliber they make it.

OTOH, I can be happy with a 30 Carbine or mini 14. I have both.
I shot with a gentleman for a while that was a forward observer in Europe during WWII. They were issued M1Carbines. My friend felt the carbine was a bit light so he scrounged an M1 Garand. He carried it for a couple months and since he hardly ever fired in anger, he decided the Garand was too heavy. He went back to the carbine.
My dad was a cook in the 3rd ID. Toured Italy, France and Germany during WW2. About the only thing he shot with his carbine was game for the mess. He didn't care for it much. I noticed that he purchased a surplus Enfield and built a sporter. He used that for a deer rifle when I was in high school. I'd say he could shoot expert marksman with that rifle. He had it dialed in.
The "improved" Carbine: Winchester's "Lightweight Military Rifle."

Yeah -- I get that there are other alternatives now - but back in 1940? Not so much.

And -- the "battle rifle" now is the 14"-barreled M4 (ballistic performance only marginally better than the Carbine's). (Essentially, does it seem like some standard military rifles today would be classified as PDWs if looking at ballistic performance?)

So - just sayin' - is that there was an opportunity for a significant improvement that coulda been considered in development.

The Germans developed the 8mm Kurz, and a rifle for it that weighed 10 lbs! (Four pounds means a lot of added rounds you can carry)
The M1 Carbine is still a stellar personal defense weapon. ~ .357 magnum ballistics, negligible recoil, decent capacity, simple manual of arms, proven performance at self-defense distances.
I'd agree with all of the above....using soft point bullets, it would be a good home defense gun, with less over penetration than some more modern pieces.

My 1st tour in Vietnam, 69'-'70, the ARVN rural forces were armed with them...the light weight and easy manual of arms was a strong selling point. For close in encounters, less than 75 yards where I served in lll Corp, the M1 Carbine 110 gr FMJ was adequate for the VC and NVA forces encountered as there was little body armor and fire fights in fortified positions were not the order of the day.

I've had 4 Carbines over the years, all acquired from the DCM and later the CMP. All functioned just fine and were a lot of fun to shoot back when ammunition was a cpl bucks for a military box of 50. Even today, everybody loves to shoot them, regardless of age or sex. The light recoil and easy sighting arrangement makes the difference over my pair of AR-15's.

BTW, mine weighs 5-1/2 lbs unloaded....

Best regards, Rod
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I have 6 M1 Carbines (Winchester, Rockola, Saginaw SG, Inland, Quality Hardware, and a Kahr Paratrooper reproduction).

For around my hobby horse farm, an M1 Carbine would be a good self defense firearm.

But, I do not feel a USGI carbine should be used in this service and post war carbines do not have a stellar reputation for reliability. Including my Kahr.

But, an AR-15 chambered in 300 Blackout would be a good substitute. Ballistics are similar, actually a tad better, and the AR has good handling characteristics.

And you get to use “pointy” bullets. 😊