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The observation I have is a bit lengthy in its presentation. It's not a tome by any means but I believe it to be highly valid.
The suggestions that follow will require devotion. What is said here is not easy or cheap or safe. Read. Think about it. Think about it again. Discuss it. Think about it again. Then, if it's something you want to involve yourself and your family in, act.
Following is a highly abbreviated, somewhat enhanced Feb 2007 post from my own blog. This is my passionate and unanswered question, and if anyone really needs to ask what this has to do with guns then go take a class someplace.
Keep in mind this was largely written in February:
Well, there it is. There are a lot of good ideas in ACTIVISM. Most of the plans I've read are defensive and/or reactionary but they can contribute effectively. How about if we just go for the crotch and jail a good 50% of the entire Congress, leaving the other half to get the idea and clean this candy store up.
I'm talking an informed, unarmed uprising for starters. Arming will come later if needed. I believe this can be done! It will take people with organizational skills beyond mine. It will take dedicated professionals to handle the legal end of things, but there are felony-grade actions of grand theft and conspiracy to commit grand theft ocurring by the thousands each day, and that's just in the Capitol building.
Some of you have probably never heard of him, and that bit of education is on your hands (click here).
The Feds didn't get him for gun running or rum running. Neither did they get him for murder, graft, extortion, prostitution, assault and battery, common and grand theft, or for disappointing his mother.
You know how they got him?
Tax evasion.
Al Capone spent something like 16 years between a penitentiary in Atlanta and the brand new supermax known as Alcatraz because of a conviction for tax evasion. It was on The Rock that Al's incubating syphillis made him totally whacked out and, for some idiotic reason, he was released to die 8 years later at his home in Florida.
Tax evasion.
Capone is said to have "owned" Chicago. He had over 1000 hired guns. A very large percentage of Chicago cops were in his pocket. He assaulted a mayor in public because that mayor didn't clear a large project with him. He was, in a sense, untouchable.
Despite the power, despite the connections, and despite the grip he had on terror in the Windy City, he went to prison for 16 years. He failed to reestablish his control of the mob when he was released. He retired to Florida. He died.
So don't think arresting, trying, and imprisoning a whore of a Senator, or a hundred of them, is beyond the scope of reason.
This can be done.
It starts now.
The suggestions that follow will require devotion. What is said here is not easy or cheap or safe. Read. Think about it. Think about it again. Discuss it. Think about it again. Then, if it's something you want to involve yourself and your family in, act.
Following is a highly abbreviated, somewhat enhanced Feb 2007 post from my own blog. This is my passionate and unanswered question, and if anyone really needs to ask what this has to do with guns then go take a class someplace.
Keep in mind this was largely written in February:
45 ACP: Current-Day Validation of the Right to Keep & Bear
OK. What I guess I’m looking for is a discussion here. I’ve asked this before, and y’all just ain’t gettin’ it.
Topic:
Why Is This Happening, Anyway, And Whatever Happened To Jail Time For High Crimes?
Clarification:
There is no such thing as a “High Crime” in criminal law. I am not a lawyer, thank God, but I read. There are crimes. There are felonies. There are misdemeanors. But in her book “High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” a study on Bill Clinton, Ann Coulter states on about page 257 that “High Crimes” is a term that is used in pursuit of impeachment proceedings.
Maybe, but I disagree.
Open assaults against the "government" of this country are a high crime.
But understand this: the (Federal) government is not the Senate, not the House, not the Courts, and not the Presidency, nor is it any combination of these. The Government of this country, the authority of and for governance, is nothing more or less than the Constitution.
The Constitution was written as a document that defines our rightful contempt for said governance by carefully delineating the authority and limitations of Establishment agencies, their flunkies, their hirelings, and their representatives.
Therefore, any actual assault against the true, singular government of this country is a high crime and such an assault has been and continues to be made by Congress, the courts, and the Executive Branch. It’s not just the 110th Congress, but the 110th is the most brazen I’ve seen in memory. And we got us a High Crime a-brewin’ here.
Quick: what are the first five words in the First Amendment?
OK, not fair.
"Congress shall make no law ..." respecting (regarding or in reference to), abridging, and so on.
Well, in its first 100-day block the new 110th Congress made very clear its intentions, its goals, to make just such laws and criminalize free speech on many fronts. This one (SB-1, Section 220) was blocked by the concerted efforts of a lot of bloggers, talk radio, and new-media types.
Topic:
Why Is This Happening, Anyway, And Whatever Happened To Jail Time For High Crimes?
Clarification:
There is no such thing as a “High Crime” in criminal law. I am not a lawyer, thank God, but I read. There are crimes. There are felonies. There are misdemeanors. But in her book “High Crimes and Misdemeanors,” a study on Bill Clinton, Ann Coulter states on about page 257 that “High Crimes” is a term that is used in pursuit of impeachment proceedings.
Maybe, but I disagree.
Open assaults against the "government" of this country are a high crime.
But understand this: the (Federal) government is not the Senate, not the House, not the Courts, and not the Presidency, nor is it any combination of these. The Government of this country, the authority of and for governance, is nothing more or less than the Constitution.
The Constitution was written as a document that defines our rightful contempt for said governance by carefully delineating the authority and limitations of Establishment agencies, their flunkies, their hirelings, and their representatives.
Therefore, any actual assault against the true, singular government of this country is a high crime and such an assault has been and continues to be made by Congress, the courts, and the Executive Branch. It’s not just the 110th Congress, but the 110th is the most brazen I’ve seen in memory. And we got us a High Crime a-brewin’ here.
Quick: what are the first five words in the First Amendment?
OK, not fair.
"Congress shall make no law ..." respecting (regarding or in reference to), abridging, and so on.
Well, in its first 100-day block the new 110th Congress made very clear its intentions, its goals, to make just such laws and criminalize free speech on many fronts. This one (SB-1, Section 220) was blocked by the concerted efforts of a lot of bloggers, talk radio, and new-media types.
Blocked, not destroyed. SB-1, this direct back-of-the-head shot against the First Amendment, languishes for the time being in the anti-constitutionalists' arsenal.
You can bet your butt it’s coming back if you’re of the kind to think it’s gone.
With this and related assaults on the First Amendment, Congress has since loosed its long-planned plot against the Second Amendment. You can read about those assaults elsewhere--participating in these threads should already have made you familiar with them.
To use First Amendment assaults as an example of what will happen with Second Amendment defenders, we have House Resolution 254, the “hate crimes” bill reintroduced in Congress and said to be on the “fast track” in the House Judiciary Committee.
“So what,” you say?
Here’s "so what" from WorldNetDaily.
I just don’t get it. I honestly don’t. Texas Rep (D) Sheila Jackson Lee is a huge sponsor of this resolution, as are many others. Senator Harry Reid (NV) was a heavy sponsor of SB-1, as were many others. I’m surprised McCain didn’t jump on board, but he uncharacteristically didn’t.
So, to the point of discussion I’d like to have: “Officials” have craftily insulated themselves against all sorts of civil prosecution. But one thing they can be jailed for is criminal activity.
Think about that. Every member of the federal legislature, every president, and every judge, takes an oath. With the exception of the presidential oath it's the same for legislators and judges. It's a verbal contract, and verbal contracts, especially when forged in a formal and proscribed setting, are as binding as a written contract.
In this oath, also taken on induction by military personnel, words very much to the effect of these are spoken, “… I do hereby swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.“
“…and domestic.” How cute. Remember that.
There is a dollar amount, an amount I am unsure of, where petty theft, generally a misdemeanor, becomes grand theft, generally a felony. Maybe it’s not a felony until it hits great big grand theft, but at a certain point theft becomes a felony. Wherever that point rests, these goons pass it within an hour of concluding their swearing in.
So: Nearly every breath these people take constitutes a clear breach of contract. Every paycheck they accept or whatever income they gain—cash under the well-worn table, maybe—easily passes the point of demarkation for a felony count. And receiving payment for services knowingly not rendered due to willful breach of contract is…ok, all together…a-criminal-act!!!
Now: Why do these delightful people walk free? I have no idea what the process would be, but why haven’t Barney and Goober gotten an arrest warrant from the Mayberry judge and bagged a hundred or so of these creeps for criminal prosecution? Just walk right into their Capitol Building offices or whatever other building their offices are in and bust their butts. Shucks, just pick a dozen at random, this is nearly a can’t-miss deal.
Why hasn’t restitution for all monies and benefits received been collected when a jury verdict came in (other than because of the minor detail that there’s never been such a trial---not yet). Think of it. If we go back far enough and collect pay, benefits, phone and postage, Secret Service costs, etc., we would be a lot healthier fiscally and we'd demolish the shysters in the process.
By the way, any restitution and penalties will be required to come out of personal holdings and properties. No payments will be made out of federal funds, accounts, properties, etc. These guys planned the deeds, these guys will pay the price.
Presidential pardons would constitute collusion.
I know, I know. I’m just a naive Pollyanna. But I defy someone to clearly answer the question in detail. I've been blown off out of hand before, so any counteractions to this suggestion would be best if they were thought out.
This nation, and our freedoms, are going to hell because of illegal legislation due to the lack of action on your part and my part. Why?!?
You can bet your butt it’s coming back if you’re of the kind to think it’s gone.
With this and related assaults on the First Amendment, Congress has since loosed its long-planned plot against the Second Amendment. You can read about those assaults elsewhere--participating in these threads should already have made you familiar with them.
To use First Amendment assaults as an example of what will happen with Second Amendment defenders, we have House Resolution 254, the “hate crimes” bill reintroduced in Congress and said to be on the “fast track” in the House Judiciary Committee.
“So what,” you say?
Here’s "so what" from WorldNetDaily.
“Arlene Elshinnawy, a 75-year-old grandmother of three, and Lynda Beckman, a 70-year-old grandmother of ten—along with nine others—were arrested for sharing their faith on the public sidewalk in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. They faced 47 years (the rest of their lives) in jail for spreading the Gospel because of a Pennsylvania ‘hate crimes’ law that is nearly identical to H.R 254 [above],” which is now before Congress.
I just don’t get it. I honestly don’t. Texas Rep (D) Sheila Jackson Lee is a huge sponsor of this resolution, as are many others. Senator Harry Reid (NV) was a heavy sponsor of SB-1, as were many others. I’m surprised McCain didn’t jump on board, but he uncharacteristically didn’t.
So, to the point of discussion I’d like to have: “Officials” have craftily insulated themselves against all sorts of civil prosecution. But one thing they can be jailed for is criminal activity.
Think about that. Every member of the federal legislature, every president, and every judge, takes an oath. With the exception of the presidential oath it's the same for legislators and judges. It's a verbal contract, and verbal contracts, especially when forged in a formal and proscribed setting, are as binding as a written contract.
In this oath, also taken on induction by military personnel, words very much to the effect of these are spoken, “… I do hereby swear to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.“
“…and domestic.” How cute. Remember that.
There is a dollar amount, an amount I am unsure of, where petty theft, generally a misdemeanor, becomes grand theft, generally a felony. Maybe it’s not a felony until it hits great big grand theft, but at a certain point theft becomes a felony. Wherever that point rests, these goons pass it within an hour of concluding their swearing in.
So: Nearly every breath these people take constitutes a clear breach of contract. Every paycheck they accept or whatever income they gain—cash under the well-worn table, maybe—easily passes the point of demarkation for a felony count. And receiving payment for services knowingly not rendered due to willful breach of contract is…ok, all together…a-criminal-act!!!
Now: Why do these delightful people walk free? I have no idea what the process would be, but why haven’t Barney and Goober gotten an arrest warrant from the Mayberry judge and bagged a hundred or so of these creeps for criminal prosecution? Just walk right into their Capitol Building offices or whatever other building their offices are in and bust their butts. Shucks, just pick a dozen at random, this is nearly a can’t-miss deal.
Why hasn’t restitution for all monies and benefits received been collected when a jury verdict came in (other than because of the minor detail that there’s never been such a trial---not yet). Think of it. If we go back far enough and collect pay, benefits, phone and postage, Secret Service costs, etc., we would be a lot healthier fiscally and we'd demolish the shysters in the process.
By the way, any restitution and penalties will be required to come out of personal holdings and properties. No payments will be made out of federal funds, accounts, properties, etc. These guys planned the deeds, these guys will pay the price.
Presidential pardons would constitute collusion.
I know, I know. I’m just a naive Pollyanna. But I defy someone to clearly answer the question in detail. I've been blown off out of hand before, so any counteractions to this suggestion would be best if they were thought out.
This nation, and our freedoms, are going to hell because of illegal legislation due to the lack of action on your part and my part. Why?!?
Well, there it is. There are a lot of good ideas in ACTIVISM. Most of the plans I've read are defensive and/or reactionary but they can contribute effectively. How about if we just go for the crotch and jail a good 50% of the entire Congress, leaving the other half to get the idea and clean this candy store up.
I'm talking an informed, unarmed uprising for starters. Arming will come later if needed. I believe this can be done! It will take people with organizational skills beyond mine. It will take dedicated professionals to handle the legal end of things, but there are felony-grade actions of grand theft and conspiracy to commit grand theft ocurring by the thousands each day, and that's just in the Capitol building.
Which Brings Us To Al Capone
Some of you have probably never heard of him, and that bit of education is on your hands (click here).
The Feds didn't get him for gun running or rum running. Neither did they get him for murder, graft, extortion, prostitution, assault and battery, common and grand theft, or for disappointing his mother.
You know how they got him?
Tax evasion.
Al Capone spent something like 16 years between a penitentiary in Atlanta and the brand new supermax known as Alcatraz because of a conviction for tax evasion. It was on The Rock that Al's incubating syphillis made him totally whacked out and, for some idiotic reason, he was released to die 8 years later at his home in Florida.
Tax evasion.
Capone is said to have "owned" Chicago. He had over 1000 hired guns. A very large percentage of Chicago cops were in his pocket. He assaulted a mayor in public because that mayor didn't clear a large project with him. He was, in a sense, untouchable.
Despite the power, despite the connections, and despite the grip he had on terror in the Windy City, he went to prison for 16 years. He failed to reestablish his control of the mob when he was released. He retired to Florida. He died.
So don't think arresting, trying, and imprisoning a whore of a Senator, or a hundred of them, is beyond the scope of reason.
This can be done.
It starts now.
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