Inexpensive Bowies

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I was just reading Bill Bagwell's book on Bowie Knives as the ultimate defensive tool. He showed a sheath in there that did not have a belt loop, but instead fit inside the belt.

1. Does anyone know where I can buy a good, inexpensive bowie knife?

2. If I buy an inexpensive one (His Hell's Belles are pretty pricey), is there anyplace I could get a sheath made like his "concealable" one?

3. He said it's bad to have a leather sheath when you may be getting into water. Is that true?
 
How are you defining inexpensive?

If you can find it before someone else buys it, Himalayan Imports offers their Crow bowie in a full size (18" OAL) and compact version. The full size runs about $150, which I personally think is quite a bargain for a forged knife that size. I certainly like mine. :)

Ontario makes several versions of knives licensed by Bagwell for considerably less than you'd pay from Mr. Bill himself.

Blackjack makes good knives at fair prices. Depending on the size blade you're after, you might consider something like a Blackjack 1-7.
 
I have an Ontario I believe they market as a "Marine Bowie". They cost $50-60. I've used it to chop branches etc and found it keeps it's edge and is pretty sturdy.
 
I got my Helle's Belle for around $150 at a Cabela's close out. Call the West Virginia store and see if they still have them on the cheap.
 
Is the OKC "Marine Bowie" basically a Ka-Bar ripoff? OKC is making the new Marine bayos, IIRC, and they look kinda like a Ka-Bar with a lug attachment. I still kinda like the M7 dagger bayonets.

Unless you're really fixated on the "Bowie" name, wouldn't a decent Ka-Bar meet your needs pretty well?

-MV
 
Unless you're really fixated on the "Bowie" name, wouldn't a decent Ka-Bar meet your needs pretty well?

ka-bars don't have the same balance and slashing power of a bowie style of knife.
 
Take a look at the Bark River Teddy Roosevelt. Not sure what your budget is, but bowies can be pricey. I do not own one of the Bark River bowies but I handled a few and the quality is top notch.
 
I'll add to the voices asking you to define "cheap". Are you willing to spend $50 or $100 or $200?
 
I'd honestly prefer to keep it under $100.00, and even below $50 if possible, though I have to be realistic, haha. Sorry for not specifiying the parameters earlier.
 
Smoky Mountain Knife Works has Bowies from $9.99 Pakistan up through several hundred dollars. I purchased a couple marked "Russell", made in Argentina for around $50. I have several Bowies up to a $300 semi custom. Unless you are looking for one of the traditional designs (there are several different blade/handle configurations that are labeled "Bowie," depending on the maker) you might consider a production knife with Bowie configuration.

I have one of these. Not traditional I suppose, but a very good knife for the money.

http://www.excaliburcutlery.com/buckfixed.html

Coyote3855
Dr. Bowie was the attending physician when I was born, 10/44.
 
Check out these entries:

CAM-BK9 Becker Knife & Tool Combat Bowie $57.99
blade measures 9" in length, the width is 1.85", and it's ground from .210" stock. Made of 0170-6C steel, the Combat Bowie features a ballistic nylon sheath.

2006 CT-0045 Colt Jungle Commander Bowie with Sheath $38.99
constructed with Teflon-coated 440 stainless steel for strength and duability.Includes black heavily reinforced nylon sheath wrapped with emergency cord.
Overall Length: 14-11/16"
Blade Length: 9-3/8"
Blade Thickness: 3/16"
Blade Material: 440 stainless steel.
Handle Material: Black non-slip Kraton®, rat-tail tang.
Sheath: Black reinforced nylon, storage pockets, 12' nylon emergency cord.

ON-SP5 Ontario Spec Plus Bowie Survival $46.99
10 in. plain edged full tang Bowie blade of 1095 carbon steel with epoxy powder coating. Kraton polymer handle. 15.13 in. overall.

UC-201 United Cutlery Rambo III Bowie $79.99
1/4" thick 420 J2 stainless steel blade and top grain geniune leather sheath. The Rambo III Bowie was designed by master knifemaker Gil Hibben, and features an overall length 16" and blade length of 11". The handle is made of laminated wood, with stainless steel guards

At the following sites:

http://www.1sks.com/cgi-bin/sc/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*189a5080acff8c877667bdb940a0

http://www.knifeoutlet.com/shop/catalog/7819.htm

http://store.tradingpostsupply.com/knives.html
 
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3. He said it's bad to have a leather sheath when you may be getting into water. Is that true?

The problem with leather sheaths is that they absorb and retain moisture and dry very slowly. This means that you are having a moisture source in direct contact with your blade. I've seen so-called "stainless" steels rust before in humid weather.

If you are going to be near water, think about kydex sheaths.
 
You're going to have trouble getting a Bowie for under $50 that's worth having.

What do you intend to do with it?

BTW, I'm familiar with everthing put out by United Cutlery and the Colt and United are not worth getting.

For somewhere between $135 and $150 you should be able to get one of the Paul Chen produced Bowies from CasIberia or the Ontario Bagwell HellsBelles. http://www.knifeoutlet.com/shop/10Browse.asp?Search=bowie
 
If you can afford a $100 bowie, you can afford a $150-220 one. You certainly don't need one today. So just peel off a $20 each month, put it in your sock drawer, and have a huge smile on your face when you handle your Belle six months later.

And when you say "his Hell's Belles are pricey" you're not kidding! I think the bare minimum for one is about $1200 IIRC. Probably worth every penny too...
 
Bagwell came to Ft. Bragg while I was still working there, to train some of the SF troops with Bowies. Once he was done with them, the brass wanted to classify his training 8^). For real...

lpl/nc
 
When you bring up the question of a bowie style knife, I have visions of the Mick Dundee character in Crocodile Dundee movie. If that is your vision, remember, this is a movie and no one is going to carry a knife like he did around NYC or any urban area without loosing it to the police.

Blade length will almost invariably exceed the legal blade length for carry in your state. But, the blade length restriction generally does not apply in a hiking, hunting, or camping scenarios. But, you get into a fight with it; you will be in trouble and any state blade length requirements will apply.

Information provided on this web site should get your started on some of the legal requirements state to state. http://www.handgunlaw.us/

If the sheath that is provided is not what you like, there are custom sheath makers around that will make you a sheath. Price will generally exceed $50 for them though. They can make you anything your heart desires, but for big knives use use a lot of leather. Kydex is the most common sheath material used these days when water issues are critical to your intended use. Kydex is a plastic that is heat molded and actually works really well, but lacks the traditional look of leather. Check out the knife forums below. There is a lot of chit chat about knives on these forums and both blade makers and sheath makers post or advertise. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/index.php OR http://knifeforums.com/forums/fusionbb.php?

Consider the SOG line for a modest priced practical but pretty well made knife. There are links already given that allow you to ponder over them. Price is going to be around $100-$125 for one of their least expensive large bowie style knives, but the steel will be pretty good and will hold an edge. If you buy a SOG, you can be proud of the knife.

The Ontario bowie mentioned above is one of the least expensive, but the steel is not all that great. The steel is similar to what you see on machetes.

I like the Cold Steel Trailmaster for a really big bowie. Price exceeds your limits though.

Check out the Knives of Alaska line of knives. They are sold on ebay and some retail stores like Sportsman Warehouse and Bass Pro. They use D2 steel which is excellent. Look at their biggest sized knives, you will like the look, I think. They have great leather belt sheaths too.

Buy the knife based on the steel and blade length you want. Don't worry about man made handles as they are generally pretty good overall. Stag is really expensive these days and will add $100 or more to the price of a knife.

Most of the lower priced knives are going to be manufactured in China, Pakistan, or similar places. Many will just advertise as being "stainless steel". The best less expensive steel will probably be 440C. Japanese steel is pretty good.
 
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